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Old 08-17-2014, 12:56 PM   #1
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http://www.newsarama.com/21880-could...dc-merger.html

What are the odds of this happening and if it does happen will DC and marvel merge their continuities

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The odds seem to be about 50/50 at this point based on the article.

As far as preference goes, surprisingly I would not mind it. The DC/Marvel divide has existed for so long that it seems natural to have them stay apart but that might just be a result of habit. The idea of having the universes merge in some way would be novel enough that it actually is somewhat appealing to me.

Only time will tell if this mind blowing feat will actually take place, but I like the idea of it potentially happening!

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I wouldn't want a merger of universes as so many of my favorite characters are B & C list...I fear I'd never see them again.

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The odds seem to be about 50/50 at this point based on the article.

As far as preference goes, surprisingly I would not mind it. The DC/Marvel divide has existed for so long that it seems natural to have them stay apart but that might just be a result of habit. The idea of having the universes merge in some way would be novel enough that it actually is somewhat appealing to me.

Only time will tell if this mind blowing feat will actually take place, but I like the idea of it potentially happening!
yeah I do too

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Keep separate but with occasional crossovers. Otherwise without competition we won't get as good comics overall

Doubt it'll happen though

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I highly doubt that Time Warner will merge with the Walt Disney Company.

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I highly doubt that Time Warner will merge with the Walt Disney Company.
they've been in a hole since aol

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Keep separate but with occasional crossovers. Otherwise without competition we won't get as good comics overall

Doubt it'll happen though
what about image comics

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Old 08-18-2014, 01:08 AM   #9
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That's exactly what I was thinking. There are other comic companies to compete with.

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^ None of which are nearly big enough to compete with DC or Marvel, much less both under the one Disney financed banner.

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Well anyone else?

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they've been in a hole since aol
No they haven't. Ever since Jeff Bewkes took over, Time Warner has been a thriving company in terms of profitability thanks to the increased value of Time Warner's cable channels, Warner Bros. having a very successful film (Dark Knight Rises, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows) and television slate (Big Bang Theory and Two and a Half Men being the most prominent), reducing debt (because he shed off Time Warner Cable, Time Inc. and AOL and placed a lot of the debt on them) and Bewkes increasing the value of Time Warner shares.

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No they haven't. Ever since Jeff Bewkes took over, Time Warner has been a thriving company in terms of profitability thanks to the increased value of Time Warner's cable channels, Warner Bros. having a very successful film (Dark Knight Rises, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows) and television slate (Big Bang Theory and Two and a Half Men being the most prominent), reducing debt (because he shed off Time Warner Cable, Time Inc. and AOL and placed a lot of the debt on them) and Bewkes increasing the value of Time Warner shares.
Don’t forget HBO or cinemax..

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Don’t forget HBO or cinemax..
their still financially struggling

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I wonder what that means for DC tv shows

http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft...chinima-merger

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On the plus side, it would be neat to see certain marvel characters and certain DC characters interact. The Marvel universe could be the 53rd Earth in the DC multiverse.

I have always enjoyed DC Marvel Crossovers and crossovers in general.
X-Men/Teen Titans (waayyyy back in the day) was awesome.

On the mega minus side, it would give a virtual monopoly to one group, and that can't be good.

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1. As a grammar Nazi, you're using the wrong form of "they're," a conjunction of they and are. The form of their you're using refers to the plural form of possession of the word they.

2. Again, you're wrong. While cord cutting is a serious problem that cable has to deal with, HBO is still extremely profitable for Time Warner. Subscriptions for HBO have remained steady in recent years and has made $4.9 billion in revenue and $1.7 billion in profit in 2013. For Q2 2014, HBO's revenue increased 17%. HBO has benefited greatly from premium television shows such as Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, Real Time with Bill Maher, Girls, etc.

3. As a whole, Time Warner is not struggling. As I have previously mentioned CEO Jeff Bewkes has focused increasing Time Warner's value for investors, focused on three very profitable divisions (Warner Bros. Entertainment, Turner Broadcasting System, and HBO), shedding away assets that were incompatible with Time Warner's current culture (AOL, Time Inc., Time Warner Cable), he has lowered Time Warner's debt by giving it to other companies, and has not burdened the company with debt by taking on acquisitions that are ripe for the taking like DreamWorks Animation and MGM. But most of all, Time Warner is profitable.

Now while I think Bewkes deserves criticism for not thinking outside the box and not being aggressive enough, I think that he should have acquired companies like DreamWorks Animation, MGM, and THQ. I think that while AOL needed to go, I think that if Bewkes reorganized his company a bit assets such as Warner Music Group, the Time Warner Book Group, Time Inc., and Time Warner Cable could have really complemented Time Warner. I believe that Bewkes' Time Warner is allowing certain assets such as DC Entertainment to squander. And he's trimmed down Time Warner so much to the point where it is now a natural acquisition target. But the days of AOL Time Warner are gone and it is a company with strong fundamentals.

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Highly unlikely this thing happens or goes through.

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It's not happening, Warner doesn't want to be bought. I think them re-organizing to look un appealing to Fox was a big way of showing that.

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It's not happening, Warner doesn't want to be bought. I think them re-organizing to look un appealing to Fox was a big way of showing that.
Actually with the way Bewkes has reorganized Time Warner, he's turned it into a target that is ripe to be taken over by another media or tech conglomerate. He's been involved with shedding so many assets that it's made Time Warner small enough to easily takeover without having to deal with undesirable large entities. That's why 21st Century Fox tried to take it over. The reason why Murdoch backed down came from the simple fact that Time Warner's board was not willing to even discuss a merger or takeover.

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I think dc and marvel could benefit from this

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I don't. I like DC and Marvel remaining separate. And I don't think that such a merger would be approved. While I think most concerns about the combination of Time Warner and Disneys' assets like their cable channels, movie studios, etc. would be unfounded, they would create far too powerful of a licensing giant to be acceptable. Think about it, Looney Tunes, DC Entertainment, Marvel Entertainment, Mickey Mouse & Friends, Pixar, Star Wars, Disney Princesses, ESPN, Hanna-Barbera, Harry Potter, Cartoon Network, etc. all under one banner is just far too powerful of a licensor. The only company that would be able to effectively compete with a combined Time Warner/Disney in the licensing department would probably be Hasbro.

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It's free market capitalism

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Free market capitalism requires a degree of competition though. And you're not talking to someone who criticizes large corporations for the sake of large corporations. I often criticize people who don't know what they're talking about with upcoming mergers such as the Comcast takeover of Time Warner Cable, or Sprint's desire to takeover T-Mobile, or people saying that a monopoly would have been created by 21st Century Fox taking over Time Warner. But this would be too much in terms of actually reducing genuine competition and I just don't see how the Federal government would approve of this.

And while vast majority of Time Warner's properties such as Turner and HBOs' cable channels and WB Games would be able to be absorbed into the Walt Disney Company without problems of monopoly, the licensing giant created by absorbing the IPs of Warner Bros., HBO, and Turner into Disney Consumer Products would be too much for the DOJ and FCC to accept. With a few minor things such as Viacom's Nickelodeon properties and Hasbro, there just would not be an effective competitor. Add in that combining Turner Sports with the ESPN juggernaut and Warner Bros. Pictures in the already vast Walt Disney Motion Pictures Group would most likely be frowned upon as well.

And creatively I just don't see it working out either. While certain properties such as DC Entertainment, Looney Tunes, Cartoon Network, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, and Hanna-Barbera would fit in with Disney very nicely, other Time Warner IPs such as Game of Thrones, Mortal Kombat, True Blood, Big Bang Theory, etc. just wouldn't work very well.

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