Story Spoilers from ShoWest (WARNING: Spoiler Extravaganza)

[craigdbfan]

From TransformerMovieBlog :

In the new theatrical trailer thread, an anonymous post reveals some potentially spoiler information about the Transformers 2 story based on information they got at ShoWest. Normally I don't post these but in this case the information is consistent and logical enough with the information we have that it makes me wonder if it is not legit. At the very least it will probably lead to a lively (and hopefully insult free) discussion in the comments. I have edited the post a bit (mostly using bullet points) to make it easier to read. My comments are in brackets [].

Again this is filled with spoilers if true. So read at your own expense.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

"I work in the effects industry but I am not affiliated with this film. We do have an online community (member only) where we discuss various projects around the various studios. I have some knowledge about some of the robots in the shots from the trailer.

- The robot with the "loose" treads is called Scrapper. Hence the reason he is "fist" fighting with Bumblebee.
- The yellow robot is Rampage.
- The helicopter is Blackout. You could see it at the ShoWest if you were there but more now with a HD feed of this trailer you can see that Blackout has rust on him just like Megatron does. Blackout is mostly intact.
- The robots crashing into the aircraft carrier are the Constructicons. Many people believed it was members of Starscream's air force but as you can see from the video there are no robots present. We saw an additional scene where Long Haul and Mixmaster are destroying the ship from within and end up ripping the hull of the carrier in half.
- What I was told is Soundwave has been scanning vehicles and when the Decepticons come to earth they fly by him in space and receive their alt mode on the way down. [Strategically and story wise, this is a genius idea]
- This is why Long Haul, Scrapper, and Mixmaster are as their alt modes over Megatron. Brawl and Bonecrusher do not return. They use Brawls parts to reform Megatron underwater (tank tracks and fitted with a particle cannon that Soundwave provides.
- Soundwave is only seen in the trailer as one of the 4 robots down in the ocean. By the way if you think Long Haul is huge Soundwave is about 6 feet taller. The other plot point is the cold and pressure does not affect their bodies like the humans thought they would. Two Decepticons give up their sparks to revive Megatron and Blackout who we find out is 3rd in command behind Starscream.
- Michael Bay made Soundwave's role as Megatron's most trusted friend (aka bodyguard and secretly unknown to Starscream as the real number 2) hence the recovery effect by the Decepticons.
- Mixmaster and Megatron can semi-fly in the film but not much. Megatron has back rockets and Mixmaster has the spinning gears turbines under his arm shields (cement mixer barrel) that he uses a few times. Mixmaster has a lot of screen time. [This would explain how Megs "swimming" up so fast and how Mixxy gets on the bridge]
- We saw a short 5 second shot where Long Haul stomps on Jazz's corpse underwater. [Sorry but I have not and still don't think Jazz returns and I could see this being Bay's definitive statement on the matter]
- There are 5 other jets that fly with Starscream but have not been named at the time of the show. I do not know the type of aircraft.
- Barricade is the one crashing into the library but isn't seen.

We saw more of that shot at the ShoWest show in private. Finally the major spoilers is as follows so look away if you don't want to know.

Remember when Michael Bay said Ravage does something no other transformer does? Well Alice is Ravage. Well they kinda gave it away when they said she had a tail and a tongue. Ravage is really small like a real jungle cat. He is sent to kill Sam but realizes Sam has information about The Fallen so he tries to get it from him. Once she turns on Sam and comes after him then she shows who she really is and Barricade shows up to help. Enough said. Now I said enough but hey there was 300 plus people at the ShoWest after party. I am out. Enjoy Revenge of the Fallen because a lot of great lads at ILM and DD did the work. [This is an elaboration on a plot point that video and story leaks indicated and Orci indirectly verified]"

[Darth Megatron]

THANk U that is great info

[Modernize73]

Originally Posted by craigdbfan

From TransformerMovieBlog :



Again this is filled with spoilers if true. So read at your own expense.

The Soundwave part is absolutely cool...what a great way to use him. He sounds like such a maniacal bada$$

[Darth Megatron]

I agree

[molp]

If the soundwave info true thats a genius way into introduce him into the film

Not watching this for the plot but not bad either way. Im excited to see Sound wave this time around.

[Hotwire]

Cool stuff!!! Can't wait to see it.

[BrollySupersj]

That's quite interesting, the whole Soundwave providing altmodes. Very interesting.

[Rock Sexton]

I think I just spoiler'd myself. lol ...........I was randomly reading through the casting calls and it had a call for:

Funeral Director
50s, male, spacey yet kind-hearted funeral director that buries Simmons. Can't help but put his foot in his mouth every chance he gets.

I apologize if that was listed in the ShoWest stuff. I was trying not to read most of it.........but it looks like the scene where Sam was at a cemetery talking to Prime happens to be John Turturo's burial.

[molp]

Originally Posted by Rock Sexton

I think I just spoiler'd myself. lol ...........I was randomly reading through the casting calls and it had a call for:

Funeral Director
50s, male, spacey yet kind-hearted funeral director that buries Simmons. Can't help but put his foot in his mouth every chance he gets.

I apologize if that was listed in the ShoWest stuff. I was trying not to read most of it.........but it looks like the scene where Sam was at a cemetery talking to Prime happens to be John Turturo's burial.

If thats true then that funeral has to take place at the end as I'm sure I've seen pics of Simmons in Egypt, which is pretty much set in stone as the battfield for the final battle.

If this is all true, then perhaps Primes speach to Sam is going to be a set up for no3

[Rock Sexton]

Originally Posted by molp

If thats true then that funeral has to take place at the end as I'm sure I've seen pics of Simmons in Egypt, which is pretty much set in stone as the battfield for the final battle.

If this is all true, then perhaps Primes speach to Sam is going to be a set up for no3

Well if you look at Prime in the cemetery scene, he looks all scuffed up from battle.

[protocida]

Doubtfull. In the cemitery scene, Sam's using black pants and a black shirt. It's the same outfit he's wearing when Optimus is fighting Megatron, Starscream and Blackout, and I doubt they'd put that as the final battle.

If you look closely, you can see the woods in the cemitery.

[DopdBrd]

Originally Posted by protocida

Doubtfull. In the cemitery scene, Sam's using black pants and a black shirt. It's the same outfit he's wearing when Optimus is fighting Megatron, Starscream and Blackout, and I doubt they'd put that as the final battle.

If you look closely, you can see the woods in the cemitery.

Think about what you said for a minute. What if, and I mean WHAT IF, that scene of Optimus fighting the 3 Decepticons really is the last scene in the movie.

Just speculation, but what if the whole movie takes place, we see the last battle, Decepticons and Autobots join forces to battle Devastator and the Fallen, defeat them and then in the end split. The Fallens plan was to bring on Unicron. The bots think they stopped it because Unicron would mean the end of both factions. We see the funeral, then that is when Megatron comes back for his Revenge. The three Cons kill Optimus and leave, but before the movie ends, the other Autobots show up to listen to the last words of their fallen comrade. Optimus passes the Matrix on to someone, and dies. Then, end movie on a very sad note.

Credits roll, with a space shot and something VERY big approaching from far away......

[shigsy2003]

Originally Posted by DopdBrd

Think about what you said for a minute. What if, and I mean WHAT IF, that scene of Optimus fighting the 3 Decepticons really is the last scene in the movie.

Just speculation, but what if the whole movie takes place, we see the last battle, Decepticons and Autobots join forces to battle Devastator and the Fallen, defeat them and then in the end split. The Fallens plan was to bring on Unicron. The bots think they stopped it because Unicron would mean the end of both factions. We see the funeral, then that is when Megatron comes back for his Revenge. The three Cons kill Optimus and leave, but before the movie ends, the other Autobots show up to listen to the last words of their fallen comrade. Optimus passes the Matrix on to someone, and dies. Then, end movie on a very sad note.

Credits roll, with a space shot and something VERY big approaching from far away......

Can't see this happening. Bay has stated numerous times that there won't be any cliffhangers (sure he could be lying but I don't think so) also he wants to take a year out before making number 3...so we would be waiting and awful long time to get the conclusion. I can't see the studio taking that risk since it would be impossible to predict if the franchise would still be viable.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Hope the Soundwave thing is true as that sounds awesome.

[Frank Noir]

That's fantastic info. Thanks. I had a bad feeling about the movie after seeing the new trailer, but this info makes me feel a lot better. I guess I have to let go of my hope for a better screenplay and just enjoy the action. Soundwave sounds awesome (SW scanning vehicles and providing alt modes to the others on the way down is brilliant) and it's great they're bringing back Blackout and Barricade. I might be alone on this, but I hope Jazz doesn't return.

And I'm just not sure about the standard blockbuster 'they-want-what's-in-my-head' storyline.

[Rock Sexton]

Originally Posted by Frank Noir

That's fantastic info. Thanks. I had a bad feeling about the movie after seeing the new trailer, but this info makes me feel a lot better. I guess I have to let go of my hope for a better screenplay and just enjoy the action. Soundwave sounds awesome (SW scanning vehicles and providing alt modes to the others on the way down is brilliant) and it's great they're bringing back Blackout and Barricade. I might be alone on this, but I hope Jazz doesn't return.

And I'm just not sure about the standard blockbuster 'they-want-what's-in-my-head' storyline.

Wait wait wait.................

The new trailer left you feeling not so right about the movie?

??????????????????????


Man I swear some of you need to learn how to enjoy life.

Honestly, do yourself and the rest of us the favor of NOT watching this movie if you're looking for an award winning screen play.

[matrix_ghost]

Originally Posted by DopdBrd

Think about what you said for a minute. What if, and I mean WHAT IF, that scene of Optimus fighting the 3 Decepticons really is the last scene in the movie.

Just speculation, but what if the whole movie takes place, we see the last battle, Decepticons and Autobots join forces to battle Devastator and the Fallen, defeat them and then in the end split. The Fallens plan was to bring on Unicron. The bots think they stopped it because Unicron would mean the end of both factions. We see the funeral, then that is when Megatron comes back for his Revenge. The three Cons kill Optimus and leave, but before the movie ends, the other Autobots show up to listen to the last words of their fallen comrade. Optimus passes the Matrix on to someone, and dies. Then, end movie on a very sad note.

Credits roll, with a space shot and something VERY big approaching from far away......

Dunno about that . I mean the pics of Shia with his body burned pretty badly would indicate that the desert scene is the final battle. He looks pretty effed up and to follow up that with yet another battle when prime gets killed seems anti climatic.


Edit :
If anithing i think the funeral scene may be one or both of Sam's parents dying.
http://www.empireonline.com/features...reakdown/3.asp

EMPIRE brokethe trailer down with quotes from the cast and crew :
Kevin Dunn and Julie White are back as Sam's parents, one of the comedy highlights of the first film. This time, Bay hints, they'll get their own side-story and a taste of robot action. "The parents go on vacation to France and the threat impacts them," says the director who blew up most of Paris in Armageddon. "We shot in Paris for a day," adds producer Ian Bryce. "There's an effects-heavy scene that takes place there that we shot in the United States, but we went for a day to get some shots around town of the Eiffel Tower and the Arc de Triomphe."

YOu can clearly see that Paris is under attack. WIth Sam's parents on vacation in france , it could be that one of them may die there.

[DopdBrd]

I think if Sam's parents or parent died then he would be a little more upset than he seems.

Ok, so what if the grave yard scene is nothing more than foreshawdowing for what may happen later in the movie. Maybe that is just where Optimus meets Sam.

[Dotten]

Sam's hand looks ok in that cemetery-scene, so probably not something happening near the end.

[protocida]

Sam's parents will also be in Egypt. I don't think one of them will die in France.

[Darth Megatron]

Originally Posted by DopdBrd

Think about what you said for a minute. What if, and I mean WHAT IF, that scene of Optimus fighting the 3 Decepticons really is the last scene in the movie.

Just speculation, but what if the whole movie takes place, we see the last battle, Decepticons and Autobots join forces to battle Devastator and the Fallen, defeat them and then in the end split. The Fallens plan was to bring on Unicron. The bots think they stopped it because Unicron would mean the end of both factions. We see the funeral, then that is when Megatron comes back for his Revenge. The three Cons kill Optimus and leave, but before the movie ends, the other Autobots show up to listen to the last words of their fallen comrade. Optimus passes the Matrix on to someone, and dies. Then, end movie on a very sad note.

Credits roll, with a space shot and something VERY big approaching from far away......

Not Happening

[Modernize73]

Originally Posted by matrix_ghost

Dunno about that . I mean the pics of Shia with his body burned pretty badly would indicate that the desert scene is the final battle. He looks pretty effed up and to follow up that with yet another battle when prime gets killed seems anti climatic.


Edit :
If anithing i think the funeral scene may be one or both of Sam's parents dying.
http://www.empireonline.com/features...reakdown/3.asp


YOu can clearly see that Paris is under attack. WIth Sam's parents on vacation in france , it could be that one of them may die there.

If they killed off the mom it would actually follow the cartoon a little bit more. You never really know of Spikes mom in the cartoon. Although I love her character and would hate to see it happen.

Also it actually looks like a place like arlington, for war vets...so maybe one of the military guys bites it?

[protocida]

Could be. If so, it's probabily Graham.

[Hulk1968]

No matter what happens, I believe this will be more than we expect!