Which company should do the CGI?

Sarg92 · 06-16-2009, 12:54 PM

I want to know which company or companies do you think that should work on the CGI in this film.

Hulk has been confirmed to be in this film so does that mean Rhythm and Hues will have a big role? But Iron Man is also in the film so that surely means ILM will work on the film as well. We still don't know if Thor or Captain America will have companies other than R&H and ILM providing the CGI.

So will Marvel chose to ditch some CGI studios for the favour of one or will they make some sort of deal where all the CGI studios work together on the film.

THOR · 06-16-2009, 06:26 PM

ILM please....

Steve Holt · 06-17-2009, 05:17 AM

Ilm!!!!

Ace of Knaves · 06-17-2009, 05:22 AM

ILM most definitely.

Kent · 06-17-2009, 07:48 AM

ILM or Weta Digital.

luke1234 · 06-17-2009, 07:59 AM

ILM, Weta is good for environments such as Avatar, Kong, and LOTR, but ILM is best suited for making superheroes.

bunk · 06-17-2009, 08:30 AM

It's gotta be ILM. They can handle the most likely ridiculous amount of shots. WETA would be good too, but Marvel has a relationship with ILM already.

Kirmit · 06-17-2009, 12:23 PM

Who would have the rights to the Hulk's design in TIH? I'd prefer it if they kept that design but with ILM working on it.

luke1234 · 06-17-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirmit

Who would have the rights to the Hulk's design in TIH? I'd prefer it if they kept that design but with ILM working on it.

agreed, if ILM did the incredible hulk with that design it would look outstanding

Sarg92 · 06-17-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirmit

Who would have the rights to the Hulk's design in TIH? I'd prefer it if they kept that design but with ILM working on it.

Yeah that would look great!

That is why I asked if Marvel will have multiple CGI studios working together on the film.

Khemik@L · 06-17-2009, 03:28 PM

Is there something wrong with Rhythm and Hues? Why is everyone opting for ILM?

dcHulk · 06-17-2009, 03:34 PM

^Yeah I don't understand all the negativity toward R&H. I thought the cgi they did was fantastic. Now it wasn't a giant leap in improvement in comparison with ILM, but facial expressions for the Hulk did improve, in my opinion.

I'm fine if they choose ILM for stylistic and "artistic continuity" reasons, but not because R&H is inferior.

bunk · 06-17-2009, 03:45 PM

R&H do a good a job, I just don't think they're as good as ILM. Hulk is only one part of an Avengers movie anyway.

Sarg92 · 06-17-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dcHulk

^Yeah I don't understand all the negativity toward R&H. I thought the cgi they did was fantastic. Now it wasn't a giant leap in improvement in comparison with ILM, but facial expressions for the Hulk did improve, in my opinion.

I'm fine if they choose ILM for stylistic and "artistic continuity" reasons, but not because R&H is inferior.

I thought that R&H also did a fantastic job with TIH seeing as they had a lot of pressure, budget and time constraints on them. If the film wasn't rushed then the CGI would have been a lot better.

In my opinion the cave scene has some photorealistic CGI.

Khemik@L · 06-17-2009, 03:49 PM

Well When I get home I'll have to do some research on ILM on youtube and see the kind of work they did. But if the case is that they are better then I would like to see them colloborate with R&H for the Hulk takes. Honestly either way is good with me I am not that picky just as long as the CGI is not a step back from the Original movies

Kirmit · 06-17-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Khemik@L

Is there something wrong with Rhythm and Hues? Why is everyone opting for ILM?

I think R and H did a great job with TIH, I'm often one of those defending the job they did. However, I do suspect ILM could do a better job purely because of how experienced they are.

dcHulk · 06-17-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarg92

I thought that R&H also did a fantastic job with TIH seeing as they had a lot of pressure, budget and time constraints on them. If the film wasn't rushed then the CGI would have been a lot better.

In my opinion the cave scene has some photorealistic CGI.

100% agreed. That cave scene blew my mind. It was *get ready* ...incredible!

Sarg92 · 06-17-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dcHulk

100% agreed. That cave scene blew my mind. It was *get ready* ...incredible!

Feige wasn't kidding when he said that it would look like Marvel got a bodybuilder, painted him green and had him sit next to Liv Tyler in that scene.

I say that a wet/rain photorealistic Hulk has been accomplished. Next is making a regular, dry Hulk look photorealistic.

I think they were close in the campus scene to accomplishing it, especially when Blonsky is firing at Hulk and then the pair walk up to each other for the whole "Is that all you've got" talk.

dcHulk · 06-17-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarg92

Feige wasn't kidding when he said that it would look like Marvel got a bodybuilder, painted him green and had him sit next to Liv Tyler in that scene.

I say that a wet/rain photorealistic Hulk has been accomplished. Next is making a regular, dry Hulk look photorealistic.

I think they were close in the campus scene to accomplishing it, especially when Blonsky is firing at Hulk and then the pair walk up to each other for the whole "Is that all you've got" talk.

Yeah, to me, the cgi of the campus scene only got better as the scene progressed. When Hulk was holding Betty after chopper went down, I was sold on the cgi of the Hulk. The amount of detail was amazing. The facial reactions of the Hulk was amazing. To me, that was the best cgi out of the two Hulk movies. Too bad it was just for a few seconds.

protocida · 06-17-2009, 06:46 PM

ILM.

Period.

06-18-2009, 12:16 AM

I'm just curious which studio did the effects for Ang Lee's Hulk? Let's face it, the Avengers is going to be a lot of CGI effects. Especially when it comes to the villain they'll have to fight.

As long as the effects look good and realistic it doesn't matter who does it.

dcHulk · 06-18-2009, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by LastSunrise1981

I'm just curious which studio did the effects for Ang Lee's Hulk? Let's face it, the Avengers is going to be a lot of CGI effects. Especially when it comes to the villain they'll have to fight.

As long as the effects look good and realistic it doesn't matter who does it.

ILM did the SFX for Ang's Hulk. And they did fine.

Gamma Goliath · 06-18-2009, 08:15 AM

I wouldn't mind ilm, as long as hulks design is consistant with TIH, and they have to make sure hulk is solid and not flabbish.

dcHulk · 06-18-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Gamma Goliath

I wouldn't mind ilm, as long as hulks design is consistant with TIH, and they have to make sure hulk is solid and not flabbish.

I didn't think the Hulk was flabby in Ang's movie. He was just so bulky. The TIH's design was super ripped by contrast.

Sarg92 · 06-18-2009, 03:15 PM

I'd like to see a Digital Domain and Framestore combo for The Avengers.

06-16-2009, 12:54 PM	#1
Sarg92 Ouch! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Posts: 2,374	Which company should do the CGI? I want to know which company or companies do you think that should work on the CGI in this film. Hulk has been confirmed to be in this film so does that mean Rhythm and Hues will have a big role? But Iron Man is also in the film so that surely means ILM will work on the film as well. We still don't know if Thor or Captain America will have companies other than R&H and ILM providing the CGI. So will Marvel chose to ditch some CGI studios for the favour of one or will they make some sort of deal where all the CGI studios work together on the film.

06-16-2009, 06:26 PM	#2
THOR Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 308	Re: Which company should do the CGI? ILM please....

06-17-2009, 05:17 AM	#3
Steve Holt STEVE HOLT! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: The Land of Oz, Australia Posts: 683	Re: Which company should do the CGI? Ilm!!!!

06-17-2009, 05:22 AM	#4
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06-17-2009, 07:48 AM	#5
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06-17-2009, 07:59 AM	#6
luke1234 World Sick Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Philly Posts: 3,371	Re: Which company should do the CGI? ILM, Weta is good for environments such as Avatar, Kong, and LOTR, but ILM is best suited for making superheroes. __________________ Tree of Life "There are two ways through life. The way of nature; and the way of grace. You have to choose which one to follow."

06-17-2009, 08:30 AM	#7
bunk superhero fan Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 9,409	Re: Which company should do the CGI? It's gotta be ILM. They can handle the most likely ridiculous amount of shots. WETA would be good too, but Marvel has a relationship with ILM already. __________________ If Jessica Biel has a son, she should name him Batmo. —The internet

06-17-2009, 12:23 PM	#8
Kirmit Big Green Machine. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: UK Posts: 2,888	Re: Which company should do the CGI? Who would have the rights to the Hulk's design in TIH? I'd prefer it if they kept that design but with ILM working on it. __________________ Puny Human.

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Khemik@L MARVEL RULES THE SUMMER!! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (Caribbean) Posts: 1,059	Re: Which company should do the CGI? Is there something wrong with Rhythm and Hues? Why is everyone opting for ILM? __________________ WHAT IS TRUE POWER? IS IT NOT SELF-CONTROL? FOR IF THE WAY YOUR POWER IS USED IS DICTATED TO YOU BY YOUR SELFISH EMOTIONS ARE YOU NOT A SPECTATOR? BUT IF YOU DICTATE YOUR INTENDED ACTIONS TO YOUR SELFISH EMOTIONS ARE YOU NOT THE ENFORCER?

06-17-2009, 03:34 PM	#12
dcHulk Side-Kick Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 594	Re: Which company should do the CGI? ^Yeah I don't understand all the negativity toward R&H. I thought the cgi they did was fantastic. Now it wasn't a giant leap in improvement in comparison with ILM, but facial expressions for the Hulk did improve, in my opinion. I'm fine if they choose ILM for stylistic and "artistic continuity" reasons, but not because R&H is inferior.

06-17-2009, 03:45 PM	#13
bunk superhero fan Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 9,409	Re: Which company should do the CGI? R&H do a good a job, I just don't think they're as good as ILM. Hulk is only one part of an Avengers movie anyway. __________________ If Jessica Biel has a son, she should name him Batmo. —The internet

06-17-2009, 03:49 PM	#15
Khemik@L MARVEL RULES THE SUMMER!! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (Caribbean) Posts: 1,059	Re: Which company should do the CGI? Well When I get home I'll have to do some research on ILM on youtube and see the kind of work they did. But if the case is that they are better then I would like to see them colloborate with R&H for the Hulk takes. Honestly either way is good with me I am not that picky just as long as the CGI is not a step back from the Original movies __________________ WHAT IS TRUE POWER? IS IT NOT SELF-CONTROL? FOR IF THE WAY YOUR POWER IS USED IS DICTATED TO YOU BY YOUR SELFISH EMOTIONS ARE YOU NOT A SPECTATOR? BUT IF YOU DICTATE YOUR INTENDED ACTIONS TO YOUR SELFISH EMOTIONS ARE YOU NOT THE ENFORCER?

06-17-2009, 06:46 PM	#20
protocida Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,450	Re: Which company should do the CGI? ILM. Period.

06-18-2009, 12:16 AM	#21
LastSunrise1981 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Which company should do the CGI? I'm just curious which studio did the effects for Ang Lee's Hulk? Let's face it, the Avengers is going to be a lot of CGI effects. Especially when it comes to the villain they'll have to fight. As long as the effects look good and realistic it doesn't matter who does it.

06-18-2009, 08:15 AM	#23
Gamma Goliath Engine of Destruction Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 4,024	Re: Which company should do the CGI? I wouldn't mind ilm, as long as hulks design is consistant with TIH, and they have to make sure hulk is solid and not flabbish.

06-18-2009, 03:15 PM	#25
Sarg92 Ouch! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Posts: 2,374	Re: Which company should do the CGI? I'd like to see a Digital Domain and Framestore combo for The Avengers.

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