Transformers: ROTF User Review Thread

[roach]

Originally Posted by Nathan

I'm not arguing that he shouldn't have killed the Fallen. Just that the face skinning wasn't required. It was unnecessary cruel. That's something Megatron would do. Heck, in the G1 Movie he even shouted stuff like "I'll rip out your optics!"

"One shall stand one shall fall" is a cool way of saying Im gonna kill you

[Dotten]

Liked it, gave it an 8 of 10. Not as good as the first one, but a more kick-ass movie for the kids. The prime-times was the main attraction. Still, some unused potential for the action-comedy. Have no problem understanding people disliking the film, luckily I was not one of them. Full review on the blog:

http://flaglima.com/?p=1433

[SsM]

I stand by my only real complaint about the movie being that there were too many comic relief characters.

[Mr. Earle]

Originally Posted by Sarge 2.0

Sam says goodbye to his improbably hot girlfriend Mikaela

For real?

[Godman]

Originally Posted by Mr. Earle

I agree Nathan, i hated that moment too. Especially that after he does it, the Fallen is reduced to a bare skeleton trying to escape and Prime grabs him and punches through him. It was cruel beyond words. It was exactly the way the bad guys kill in thousands of movies. I couldnt believe Prime was doing it.
Because he is not Megatron...

Agreed. Prime feels that those are his brothers and even felt bad that Megatron had to die in the first one. I would have prefered if The Fallen was soooo evil and did more devastating **** that It's Prime and them who go and resurrect Megatron cause they need his help. That's when megatron would have transformed in a huge armor piece shoulder canon gun for Optimus to use against The Fallen whhich would have made better sense. Megatron never grovelled like that to a MASTER WTF????!!!!!

[BlackLantern]

I would so watch a movie just with Major Lennox (Duhamel) and IronHide

[Mr. Earle]

Originally Posted by BlackLantern

well I didn't see a Decepticon jail anywhere around....the way Ive seen it (since the first film) is that the Autobots have been pushed to the point of "kill or be killed"....Optimus, when fighting, seems to become a whirlwind of death and kick ass

Forgive me for this but my patience is running out. You need to open a dictionary and look up "brutality" and "killing".
Both end up killing the opponent, but there is a big difference.

[SsM]

Originally Posted by Godman

Agreed. Prime feels that those are his brothers and even felt bad that Megatron had to die in the first one. I would have prefered if The Fallen was soooo evil and did more devastating **** that It's Prime and them who go and resurrect Megatron cause they need his help. That's when megatron would have transformed in a huge armor piece shoulder canon gun for Optimus to use against The Fallen whhich would have made better sense. Megatron never grovelled like that to a MASTER WTF????!!!!!

I honest to God like that story.

[Godman]

Originally Posted by roach

have we not already established that these are different characters from the Cartoon

true, but them why use Optimus voice from the cartoon then? They should have kept it completely different.

[louiebling$]

This film is not a 0/10... Dragonball a 0/10(that's not my opinion buts arguably that bad) Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun Li 0/10


But not this

[Mr. Earle]

Originally Posted by BlackLantern

I would so watch a movie just with Major Lennox (Duhamel) and IronHide

Originally Posted by Godman

Agreed. Prime feels that those are his brothers and even felt bad that Megatron had to die in the first one. I would have prefered if The Fallen was soooo evil and did more devastating **** that It's Prime and them who go and resurrect Megatron cause they need his help. That's when megatron would have transformed in a huge armor piece shoulder canon gun for Optimus to use against The Fallen whhich would have made better sense. Megatron never grovelled like that to a MASTER WTF????!!!!!

I would watch both of these!

[BlackLantern]

Originally Posted by Godman

Agreed. Prime feels that those are his brothers and even felt bad that Megatron had to die in the first one. I would have prefered if The Fallen was soooo evil and did more devastating **** that It's Prime and them who go and resurrect Megatron cause they need his help. That's when megatron would have transformed in a huge armor piece shoulder canon gun for Optimus to use against The Fallen whhich would have made better sense. Megatron never grovelled like that to a MASTER WTF????!!!!!

IMO that would have been even more predictable and cliche than what actually happened...I would have actually prefer Megatron **** the Fallen over when he realizes that the Autobots were going to win

[BlackLantern]

Originally Posted by Mr. Earle

Forgive me for this but my patience is running out. You need to open a dictionary and look up "brutality" and "killing".
Both end up killing the opponent, but there is a big difference.

well The Fallen was the most of evil of their race and ready to wipe out a whole planet...I think he got what was coming to him....Optimus or the Army should take that face and mount it somewhere

[The Guard]

Alright, dont get mad! What i meant is that he is cocky as long as things are cool but when Megs brings the heat on him he is gone. In G1 at least (and his pterodactyl analogue in Beast wars) would often challenge Megatron, make mocking remarks about his failures, etc. Then Megatron would get mad and SS would be all "i didnt mean it". But in this it was just SS holding his breath every time Megatron was near him. He never uttered a word that would offend him. G1 Megatron wouldnt beat the **** out of SS if Sam got away. He would probably embarass him in front of the other decepticons. I hope you see my point.

In G1, the Decepticons rarely actually killed anyone. It was basically a giant robot shoving match.

This movieverse is a different animal entirely. The Decepticons pose a truly credible threat to innocents, and to the autobots.

I think you're splitting hairs a bit here. A few scorn words is welcome, and in the comics, might be scathing, but from someone who would rip a smaller Transformer in half for pleasure it just...it's just lame in comparison.

Now if your issue is that Starscream didn't have so much cheesy over the top stuttering incompetence...that sort of falls along the same lines. Starscream has to seem at least somewhat capable and badass.

Again, the first beating was justified, i am talking about the rest.

Which beatings are you referring to here?

Ironman lost steam in the last quarter. Good movie, but far from brilliant due to stereotype Arabs which was STUPID. Arabs don't have no "rule the world" ideas. They are out to prove their point of freedom from the major conglomerate religion and governments.

Uh...those weren't supposed to represent all Arabs. Those were The Ten Rings, a group of terrorists who threatened OTHER Arabs and cultures with Stark's weapons.

Ironman could have gone more in depth but ended up being the typical greedy bad guy plot. I didn't feel a threat in ironman. The Joker is one of the most diabolic characters to date in movie history. He just wanted anarchy and that is one hell of a ****ing threat. A villain with no set goal but to bring the worst out of humanity. Yikes. Villains out for money are redundant and out to rule the world are redundant. We need better well fleshed out villain plots now. out to rule the world isn't bad, but WHY? Watchmen had one of the greatest villain yet non villainous plots written. Pure genius. Star Wars has more depth in the villains. All indiana Jones villains had good plots. So why are we in 2009 and still have redundant ****!!!!!!?????

While I'll admit that WATCHMEN's "villain" is almost second to none, I think you're basically just picking and choosing what you want to believe is good and bad without looking at some of this stuff in context. IRON MAN's villain was, in all likelihood, probably more of a threat to the world than Joker ever was. A powerful company dealing high tech arms indiscriminately?

The Joker killed a few mobsters and a few innocent people, scarred Harvey Dent, gave some innocents and convicts the chance to to kill themselves, and he blew up an empty hospital. In IRON MAN, Stane's plans threatened a lot more innocents all over the world.

They had the technology to absorb "SUNS"?????!!!! but no technological superiority that would enable then to wipe out the puny fleshly beings and kill Sam, the us army, and them in a matter of seconds????!!!! stupid plot.

O...k.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by Godman

Agreed. Prime feels that those are his brothers and even felt bad that Megatron had to die in the first one. I would have prefered if The Fallen was soooo evil and did more devastating **** that It's Prime and them who go and resurrect Megatron cause they need his help. That's when megatron would have transformed in a huge armor piece shoulder canon gun for Optimus to use against The Fallen whhich would have made better sense. Megatron never grovelled like that to a MASTER WTF????!!!!!

That wouldn't have worked. Because why would Megatron care what happens to the Planet? As soon as they would've revived him, he would've offered the Fallen a partnership.

[Godman]

Originally Posted by Mr. Earle

I think he used his windscreen washers...

y? did he find humor in it?

[BlackLantern]

I think we can all agree that Megatron was underused again, not as bad as the first film, but close

[Godman]

Originally Posted by Nathan

That wouldn't have worked. Because why would Megatron care what happens to the Planet? As soon as they would've revived him, he would've offered the Fallen a partnership.

It would have worked if The fallen were a menace who wanted the heart sources of all the Transformers on earth and even the decepticons.

At the end Megatron would betray the autobots to seize the bits and pieces left of the fallen and become GALVATRON which would be the end of this and beginning of 3

[Nathan]

Him calling someone Master just ruined it for me.

[Mr. Earle]

Originally Posted by The Guard

Which beatings are you referring to?

The was one more on the skyscraper. I am not sure if there was a third. Anyway, i wanted SS to be more provocative and less of a pussy. SS is always provocative as long as Megatron is calm. Here Megatron was always about to beat him so he was constantly bowing.

[louiebling$]

IronHide was underused

[The Guard]

There's the "I'll deal with you later" moment in The Fallen's lair.

The skyscraper was where he was beating him for leaving him to die. That's the first opportunity he had to do so after he used Starscream for what he needed.

I don't remember a third. My point is, there's a justification for him beating Starscream on the skyscraper. He was biding his time from the beginning.

So you're saying you missed Starscream saying things like "Perhaps this wouldn't have happened if I was in charge?"

[Mr. Earle]

Originally Posted by Godman

It would have worked if The fallen were a menace who wanted the heart sources of all the Transformers on earth and even the decepticons.

At the end Megatron would betray the autobots to seize the bits and pieces left of the fallen and become GALVATRON which would be the end of this and beginning of 3

**** Galvatron. Even if Megatron gets upgraded to a 100 story high robot, his name shouldnt change.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by Godman

It would have worked if The fallen were a menace who wanted the heart sources of all the Transformers on earth and even the decepticons.

At the end Megatron would betray the autobots to seize the bits and pieces left of the fallen and become GALVATRON which would be the end of this and beginning of 3

If the Fallen would've been after the Sparks, the humans would've just told them to get off the Planet, as they already did in this movie.

[chaseter]

Originally Posted by Sarge 2.0

I sat through it because I would not be able to write a credible review if I didn't sit through it. It's a matter of integrity. Yes, it can be a zero. I almost - but not quite - enjoyed 15 seconds of the movie. That doesn't mean it's not a zero.

You didn't write a credible review because you gave a movie 0/10. You hated a movie so much but you were compelled to sit through it to write a review. That makes no sense.

This movie is far from perfect but it has some things to admire in it and a 0/10 is just hilarious. I find it funny that people come on here to pout about a movie and rate it as such to get attention.