The Twins: Racist? - Page 29

Jake Cassidy · 07-09-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JAK®

It's logical because the only other black characters in Transformers have been Bobby B and his 'mammy', Anthony Anderson's mishaps with the po-lice and Jazz crackin' it with the little ******es.

Tyrese Gibson has been the only competent black guy in both movies.

People always bring up that one line/scene to badmouth Jazz. They seem to completely disregard the fact that never does anything like that the rest of the movie. It actually portayed him as compassionate and heroic.

Episode29 · 07-09-2009, 07:18 PM

...and the only autobot fatality.

Jake Cassidy · 07-09-2009, 07:56 PM

That was because the writers thought that his death would get the most emotional response from the fans, other Optimus and Bumblebee. He is one of the most popular TFs ever.

JAK® · 07-10-2009, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake Cassidy

People always bring up that one line/scene to badmouth Jazz. They seem to completely disregard the fact that never does anything like that the rest of the movie. It actually portayed him as compassionate and heroic.

I actually really did like Jazz in the first movie, simply because he did have moments of seriousness, and his line in the Autobots arrival scene was great because it made the audience realise that Transformers have personalities.

Again, none of the black characters in the Transformers movies are incredibly offensive on their own. But when viewed as a whole, it gets a bit annoying.

Mr. Earle · 07-10-2009, 07:36 AM

Off topic but...
Ironhide (big autobot with even bigger cannons): "its Megatron, retreat"
and then Jazz tries to hold him off to cover the others that retreat. He is the smallest autobot and his lasers only tickled Megatron. What the hell was he thinking? Granted, he is the second in command and its his duty, but they should have made him bigger.

the a1ant · 07-20-2009, 12:00 AM

I was really offended by the twins in this movie. It just fed into stereotypes. Ugh. Besides that, the movie was enjoyable.

PyroChamber · 07-20-2009, 03:26 AM

It seems to me that, despite how some people feel about Skids and Mudflap, a lot of people actually liked them and thought they were funny. At least people I've spoken to about it.

Mr. Earle · 07-20-2009, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by PyroChamber

It seems to me that, despite how some people feel about Skids and Mudflap, a lot of people actually liked them and thought they were funny. At least people I've spoken to about it.

They were funny i think. Blending like a ninja, teasing Leo and getting their heads banged together by Bee were funny moments for me.

The problem is that the movie gave us these jokes at the cost of overdeveloping the rest of the autobots.

NewYorkSpider · 07-20-2009, 11:39 AM

The Twins served no real purpose in the movie. I agree with the above post. The main Autobots were overshadowed.

DemonicFoil · 07-20-2009, 01:13 PM

^ hmmmm, yeah, your right, they could of showed less twins and more Sideswipe, Jolt, or Arcee.

NewYorkSpider · 07-20-2009, 01:18 PM

It seemed to me that Bay focused more on the action than the main story. I saw a big difference from the first movie and second.

Ion Kenshin · 07-20-2009, 01:27 PM

I still don't see how people can call racist in regards to the Twins. It makes no sense. Who is it offending?

PyroChamber · 07-20-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkSpider

It seemed to me that Bay focused more on the action than the main story. I saw a big difference from the first movie and second.

I think the way it went was: action first, comedy second, then story.

terry78 · 07-20-2009, 03:49 PM

We needed one more Autobot on the quest for the matrix that wasn't goofy comic relief or mute. One of the more hardcore types would have made a good addition to the team, like sticking an Arcee there for Mikalea to talk to.

PyroChamber · 07-20-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by terry78

We needed one more Autobot on the quest for the matrix that wasn't goofy comic relief or mute. One of the more hardcore types would have made a good addition to the team, like sticking an Arcee there for Mikalea to talk to.

You would think that that was one of the first things they would have thought of, I bet the way they went about it was "Let's just put Arcee in there and have her...do...whatever, maybe they'll shut up the fanboys".

the a1ant · 07-20-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KenshinAtrain

I still don't see how people can call racist in regards to the Twins. It makes no sense. Who is it offending?

I wouldn't call it racist, but it was feeding into stereotypes...especially when the gold "tooth" popped out. And like others said, they focused way too much on them, compared to the others.

COAL TIGER · 08-12-2009, 03:42 AM

This is gonna sound bad but I don't care. Most of the people in this thread were White. So I'm not surprise that most people who posted here said "no there's no racism involved, that's just stupid".

It's the samething with Resident Evil 5 which was FAAAAAAAAAAR more blatant with it's racism.

COAL TIGER · 08-12-2009, 03:43 AM

Double post.

AVEITWITHJAMON · 08-12-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by terry78

We needed one more Autobot on the quest for the matrix that wasn't goofy comic relief or mute. One of the more hardcore types would have made a good addition to the team, like sticking an Arcee there for Mikalea to talk to.

I think Jetfire being along for the ride a bit more would have made sense, he was comical at first, but got serious when it came time to tell the story.

cin0 · 08-14-2009, 10:29 PM

I would've rather seen on sideswipe and jolt with ratchet and ironhide battlin with the decepticons while on their way to catar and seen arcee with sam and mikalea since mikalea likes motorcycles and arcee is a girl it would've made for more room for others to actually play some part in the movie so they could get a better spot in the next.

SpeterMan3 · 08-15-2009, 01:29 PM

I found the twins to be kinda funny, but a little offensive. I wasn't really offended, because for some reason, I just don't care about race at all, in a way that I just shrug everything off. But my mom probably would have been offended.

Marvin · 08-16-2009, 12:25 AM

this is still going?

just saw district 9, great little film there.

not so great portrayal of local african(nigerians).
tomayto tomahto.

olla · 08-19-2009, 02:49 AM

It is nonsens!!!! Somebody has a great imagination!

Jolly Rolly · 08-20-2009, 12:12 AM

How can the twins be rascist when one is green and the other orange?

Jake Cassidy · 10-12-2009, 04:00 AM

and that line, "We don't read much" doesn't mean they're illiterate. Maybe they can't read ancient Cybertronian. I can't read Egyptian hieroglyphics. That doesn't make me illiterate.

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07-09-2009, 07:56 PM	#703
Jake Cassidy Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 12,990	Re: The Twins: Racist? That was because the writers thought that his death would get the most emotional response from the fans, other Optimus and Bumblebee. He is one of the most popular TFs ever.

07-10-2009, 07:36 AM	#705
Mr. Earle Banned User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13,929	Re: The Twins: Racist? Off topic but... Ironhide (big autobot with even bigger cannons): "its Megatron, retreat" and then Jazz tries to hold him off to cover the others that retreat. He is the smallest autobot and his lasers only tickled Megatron. What the hell was he thinking? Granted, he is the second in command and its his duty, but they should have made him bigger.

07-20-2009, 12:00 AM	#706
the a1ant Awesome Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 19,405	Re: The Twins: Racist? I was really offended by the twins in this movie. It just fed into stereotypes. Ugh. Besides that, the movie was enjoyable. __________________ xmenfilms.wordpress.com

07-20-2009, 11:39 AM	#709
NewYorkSpider Come Closer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 20,546	Re: The Twins: Racist? The Twins served no real purpose in the movie. I agree with the above post. The main Autobots were overshadowed. __________________ Avatar by Kane52630 ....

07-20-2009, 01:13 PM	#710
DemonicFoil Comics,Games,Movies Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cybertron Posts: 503	Re: The Twins: Racist? ^ hmmmm, yeah, your right, they could of showed less twins and more Sideswipe, Jolt, or Arcee.

07-20-2009, 01:18 PM	#711
NewYorkSpider Come Closer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 20,546	Re: The Twins: Racist? It seemed to me that Bay focused more on the action than the main story. I saw a big difference from the first movie and second. __________________ Avatar by Kane52630 ....

07-20-2009, 01:27 PM	#712
Ion Kenshin Torch Bearer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Beware my Power. Green Lantern's Light Posts: 9,160	Re: The Twins: Racist? I still don't see how people can call racist in regards to the Twins. It makes no sense. Who is it offending? __________________ *Ion Kenshin of Earth.* *You have the ability to overcome great fear.* *Welcome to the Green Lantern Corps.*

07-20-2009, 03:49 PM	#714
terry78 I'm laughing internally Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 53,678	Re: The Twins: Racist? We needed one more Autobot on the quest for the matrix that wasn't goofy comic relief or mute. One of the more hardcore types would have made a good addition to the team, like sticking an Arcee there for Mikalea to talk to. __________________ It's better to be seen than viewed. ----------- Who the **** makes a movie and while planning it is like, "you know what this needs...is some Greg Kinnear."

08-12-2009, 03:42 AM	#717
COAL TIGER Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Detroit, Michigan Posts: 1,300	Re: The Twins: Racist? This is gonna sound bad but I don't care. Most of the people in this thread were White. So I'm not surprise that most people who posted here said "no there's no racism involved, that's just stupid". It's the samething with Resident Evil 5 which was FAAAAAAAAAAR more blatant with it's racism.

08-12-2009, 03:43 AM	#718
COAL TIGER Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Detroit, Michigan Posts: 1,300	Re: The Twins: Racist? Double post. Last edited by COAL TIGER; 08-12-2009 at 03:48 AM.

08-14-2009, 10:29 PM	#720
cin0 Atl's Finest Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,011	Re: The Twins: Racist? I would've rather seen on sideswipe and jolt with ratchet and ironhide battlin with the decepticons while on their way to catar and seen arcee with sam and mikalea since mikalea likes motorcycles and arcee is a girl it would've made for more room for others to actually play some part in the movie so they could get a better spot in the next.

08-15-2009, 01:29 PM	#721
SpeterMan3 ^SpeterMan3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: DubC Posts: 2,367	Re: The Twins: Racist? I found the twins to be kinda funny, but a little offensive. I wasn't really offended, because for some reason, I just don't care about race at all, in a way that I just shrug everything off. But my mom probably would have been offended. __________________ SpeterMan3 For all the SSM fans... A Member of Raimi's "Spider-Man Trilogy" Fans MJJ

08-16-2009, 12:25 AM	#722
Marvin Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 9,417	Re: The Twins: Racist? this is still going? just saw district 9, great little film there. not so great portrayal of local african(nigerians). tomayto tomahto. __________________ My Work "If you want your childhood back, take a trip back to your old school and try explaining to the real kids currently there why you don't like these movies." Ironman3 needs "The Honest Trailer" treatment..asap.

08-19-2009, 02:49 AM	#723
olla Newbie Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4	Re: The Twins: Racist? It is nonsens!!!! Somebody has a great imagination!

08-20-2009, 12:12 AM	#724
Jolly Rolly Banned User Join Date: May 2005 Location: in a house Posts: 684	Re: The Twins: Racist? How can the twins be rascist when one is green and the other orange?

10-12-2009, 04:00 AM	#725
Jake Cassidy Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 12,990	Re: The Twins: Racist? and that line, "We don't read much" doesn't mean they're illiterate. Maybe they can't read ancient Cybertronian. I can't read Egyptian hieroglyphics. That doesn't make me illiterate.

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