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Old 09-05-2009, 02:52 AM   #1
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Default Characters you don't take seriously

Are there any characters that no matter how badass writers try to make them, you still can never take them seriously?

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Old 09-06-2009, 01:43 PM   #2
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Superboy-Prime and Rulk comes to mind.

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Old 09-06-2009, 07:12 PM   #3
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The Sentry. Every new writer who gets ahold of him gives him a new psychological disorder. He's become this uber-powerful joke.

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Old 09-27-2009, 04:20 PM   #4
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The Blob... maybe it's the name, which makes me laugh. But seriously! He has no independant thought (except maybe in Ultimate X-Men, in which he's just plain weird). His power is to stand there and let people smack into him. *shakes head*

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Jessica Jones, I know that Alias was supposed to be a good comic, but whenever I see she shows up in 616 she feels like a character from a bad fan fic, she had a crush on Peter Parker, she married to Luke Cage, she's been friends with Carol Danvers and Scott Lang... I'm surprised she didn't do an internship at Stark Enterprises

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She was more than just friends with Scott Lang. In fact, I questioned whether her baby would really turn out to be Luke Cage's until she was born with caramel skin.

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She was more than just friends with Scott Lang. In fact, I questioned whether her baby would really turn out to be Luke Cage's until she was born with caramel skin.
Wow, even more so than I though.

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The spot

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Cage.

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I gotta say Venom recently, hes portrayed as pretty much a one track idiot, with limited speech, but a destruction capacity of a nuke. I guess thats what he is, but it just seems stupid with him always trying to eat people. Hes funnier to me more than anything. Bought Sinister Spiderman and really got disgusted. He has potential, and they way they used to write him was much better. Do that again, not this slow kid who eats stuff, lol

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Definitely the Sentry. He's a parody of what he started out as.

I have trouble taking Dr. Light seriously after he became Rape-Man and literally everything about him was tied to his deviant sexual behavior.

The Hulk, for the most part, is not a character, he's a plot device. I can only take him seriously in a moderately intelligent mode that might possibly provide some kind of character development.

Wolverine is also a parody of what he started as.

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Red Hulk.

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Sentry - He's just a powerful basketcase. Makes me think you could dress up like the killer from Scream and have a good chance at causing him to curl up in a ball.

Red Hulk - I thought the concept was ridiculous from the start. I just can't buy it.

Booster Gold - Never could stand him. Just a preening, self-absorbed, superfluous jackass. The revelation of him as Supernova killed what had been an interesting arc in 52 for me.

Stephanie Brown - Spoiler, Robin, Batgirl. No. Just no. She's equally useless, grating and distracting in whatever role. ****ing stop it, DC.

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I like that we don't take Booster Gold seriously. It's sorta his thing.



Reminds me of Johnny Storm. Everyone writes him off as a hotshot idiot but when he does get serious it's almost like the Silent Bob effect. You usually stop everything and pay attention.



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Wolverine is also a parody of what he started as.


Definately! And he's showing up EVERYWHERE!! Especially since the so-called X-men movies, which might as well have been called Wolverine for all the screentime anyone else got.

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Yeah, Booster Gold is supposed to be an underestimated hero who nobody takes seriously. Then when he does something right, it's like "Wow! Booster Gold might actually be competent!" The fact that he wants people to take him seriously while simultaneously being a fame/fortune-starved attention whore is what makes him so fun (though it's also been fun reading him actually become a serious character in his current ongoing).

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Reminds me of Johnny Storm. Everyone writes him off as a hotshot idiot but when he does get serious it's almost like the Silent Bob effect. You usually stop everything and pay attention.


I can deal with Johnny and I like the dichotomy when the more serious side is shown. When they place BG in that scenario, it just makes me want to skip and the dialogue and cry out "Not this idiot again."

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Yeah, Booster Gold is supposed to be an underestimated hero who nobody takes seriously. Then when he does something right, it's like "Wow! Booster Gold might actually be competent!" The fact that he wants people to take him seriously while simultaneously being a fame/fortune-starved attention whore is what makes him so fun (though it's also been fun reading him actually become a serious character in his current ongoing).
I just never get to that point, despite how compelling the situation might be. That Supernova arc is a perfect example. I was highly vested in the character and when it turned out to be Carter, I was just done. Even to the point where I cancelled a pre-order on a Sueprnova fig that I had long been eyeing. It's like he stole my Big Wheel or something when I was a child.

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I love that Booster being a chronic f***-up has become part of the basis for his current series. I have no problem taking him seriously. Yeah, he was a douchebag, but losing your best friend because absolutely no one had faith in the two of you tends to change a person. In Booster's case it was for the better...

... In Tim Drake's case, it was for the worse. I can't take Tim seriously anymore because he's been a whiny b**** for years now. Pretty impressive when you consider that Tim used to be my favorite DC character.

Jason Todd is also impossible to take seriously. "Hey, let's bring back one of the worst DC characters ever for no apparent reason!" So then, when other writers are left with him and have no idea what to do with him, he just hops from persona to persona and costume to costume being utterly worthless.

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Why the hell did they bring back Jason Todd? Who thinks to themselves "Hey, you know that character so terrible that people wrote in and asked us to kill him off? Let's bring him back! Surely people will like him now!"?

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Ask Winick. The fact that he existed during the Silver Age probably helped immeasurably as well.

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Why the hell did they bring back Jason Todd? Who thinks to themselves "Hey, you know that character so terrible that people wrote in and asked us to kill him off? Let's bring him back! Surely people will like him now!"?
I thought he was interesting. Okay sure he's like a 90s anti-hero who kills druggers and whatnot, but i thought it was an interesting concept since it was a Robin gone evul and stuff.

I admit i haven't read Countdown or anything where he might have been ****ed up or something but i really liked Jason in "Under the Hood" and while "Battle for the Cowl" he went pure villain for rather weak written take i think the character has alot of value.

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... In Tim Drake's case, it was for the worse. I can't take Tim seriously anymore because he's been a whiny b**** for years now. Pretty impressive when you consider that Tim used to be my favorite DC character.
I'm hoping this fades when this Blackest Night business all settles. Between Connor and Bruce popping up, there has to be some plan in place to make Tim tolerable again. Right?

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Why the hell did they bring back Jason Todd? Who thinks to themselves "Hey, you know that character so terrible that people wrote in and asked us to kill him off? Let's bring him back! Surely people will like him now!"?
Bringing Todd back is thoroughly inexplicable. Laughable even since it was explained by way of a retcon punch. It's just another reason for me to think about taking a swipe at Winick if I ever walk past on the street.

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Todd's the only actively bad character I can think of at the moment. I mean, Rulk and others people have mentioned are crappy, but they at least have clear directions. Nobody at DC knows what to do with Jason Todd, but rather than do the sensible thing and give him a rest or kill him off again, people just keep doing new and utterly random different things with him instead. My mind, it is boggled.

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Eh since again i can't tell what other writers have decided to mess up with him, but he is clearly just being a viscious protector to Gotham. Tho in Battle for the Cowl, he began to just take interest in killing criminals instead of saving innocents.

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If he's "just a vicious protector of Gotham," why is he dressing up like Robin and trying to kill Tim or dressing up like Red Robin and traipsing around the Multiverse or turning into a squid monster? Jason Todd's all over the place.

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