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Old 09-10-2009, 02:56 PM   #76
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WOW... all the Conroy bashing!

I still think he is the definitive voice of the character... at least for as long as he is capable of speaking.

In a nearly 20 year span, he has performed every aspect of the character... Bruce Wayne, young Bruce Wayne, Old Bruce Wayne (where hes a total badass), as well a his Batman voice in a variety of unique circumstances and opposite many characters. He's even been Thomas Wayne. I mean, look at his range...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPpa0818qOw

He's a talented and underrated actor... that has never given anything but solid performances, which is something that cant always be said of even Mark Hamill. (See 'Mad Love').

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Now I agree... he hasn't been at his best in Gotham Knight and Arkham Asylum, but that's largely due to poor dialogue and bad execution of the story.

Even in Arkham Asylum, he plays the thankless role, very rarely being given time to shine, sprouting middle of the road dialogue like, ''Go back to your cell... now!''... yet he still does it with alot of passion.


Hopefully Bruce Timm and Andrea Romano have got him to add a little extra gruffness back into his voice for Superman/ Batman: Public Enemies.

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Old 09-10-2009, 09:27 PM   #77
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Conroy is at his best when he's doing old man Bruce.

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Old 09-11-2009, 05:33 PM   #78
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Old 09-11-2009, 05:41 PM   #79
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Kevin and Mark are in my head as these two characters forever.

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Old 09-13-2009, 11:03 AM   #80
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Mark Hamill will always be the real Joker IMO,as Conroy will always remain the best Bruce/Batman.Their voice captures the heart of their respective comic book counterparts and this is something that Bale,Keaton,Ledger,Nicholson and all the others will never reach

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Old 09-15-2009, 11:05 PM   #81
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Just watched Batman Begins again this weekend for the 1st time in a while. The scene @ Arkham where Batman/Gordon are trying to save Rachael...his voice is *perfect*. He doesnt over do it, but he still makes it rough and different from Bruce Wayne. I hope he sounds a LOT more like that in Batman 3.

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Old 09-16-2009, 12:44 AM   #82
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Just watched Batman Begins again this weekend for the 1st time in a while. The scene @ Arkham where Batman/Gordon are trying to save Rachael...his voice is *perfect*. He doesnt over do it, but he still makes it rough and different from Bruce Wayne. I hope he sounds a LOT more like that in Batman 3.
I thought another good part was when he says "I brought mine!"

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Old 09-16-2009, 12:05 PM   #83
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Conroy's the best animated Batman, Bale's the best movie Batman.

Hammil's the best animated Joker, Ledger's the best movie Joker(out of 3).

There. Settled.

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Old 09-16-2009, 02:30 PM   #84
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I thought another good part was when he says "I brought mine!"
Yup, aside from the scene I mentioned, I also loved the 1st time we heard "the Bat-voice". When he was talking to Rachael for the 1st time.

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Old 10-15-2009, 07:49 AM   #85
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I agree with Conroy. Bale over did the voice way too much.

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Old 10-15-2009, 07:51 AM   #86
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You guys do realize that it was revealed that in TDK his voice was modulated in post?

It isn't all Bale doing that ridiculous voice. But I understand it might be hard for some of you to accept that Nolan was partly to blame for it...

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Old 10-15-2009, 08:12 AM   #87
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Conroy deserves all our respect and admiration and is entitled to his opinion.

My only problem with his voice work was in Begins, where his pitch seemed to vary from scene to scene. In TDK it was much more consistent. And even his critics have to admit one of the best scenes in Begins was the "sweear to meee!" interrogation.

Frankly, this "over-the-top" criticism is kind of hypocritical. If you can buy this guy in a cape and cowl can seem like a scary creature of the night to criminals, why suddenly a growly voice is too over-the-top? The point is not to sound "natural", itīs to project a supernatural beast persona.

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Eh I thought his voice in Begins was better.

In some scenes in TDK he didn't sound scary or supernatural, he sounded stupid like he was on bare steroids or constipated or something.

In Begins he went crazy with the voice when he NEEDED to ie the "swear to meee!" bit. In TDK his voice went a bit crazy when it didn't need to.

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Eh I thought his voice in Begins was better.

In some scenes in TDK he didn't sound scary or supernatural, he sounded stupid like he was on bare steroids or constipated or something.

In Begins he went crazy with the voice when he NEEDED to ie the "swear to meee!" bit. In TDK his voice went a bit crazy when it didn't need to.

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Old 10-15-2009, 10:45 AM   #90
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Kevin Connroy=incompetent. Any TRUE artist would never bash someone elses work, or speak like they could do "better". Movie and cartoons are the complete opposite. Get Kevin in front of the screen for a movie, then see how many fan boys verbally suck his dick.

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Old 10-15-2009, 11:55 AM   #91
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Eh I thought his voice in Begins was better.

In some scenes in TDK he didn't sound scary or supernatural, he sounded stupid like he was on bare steroids or constipated or something.

In Begins he went crazy with the voice when he NEEDED to ie the "swear to meee!" bit. In TDK his voice went a bit crazy when it didn't need to.
Other than the constantly growly tone, which is his approach, I donīt recall moments where he went "crazy" with no need.

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Old 10-15-2009, 11:59 AM   #92
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Well I haven't watched it in a while but this one sticks out...

"BECAUSE I'M NOT WEARING HOCKEY PADSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

C'mon guy, calm down, sheesh. He sounded ****ing ridiculous not scary. I would of laughed at him.

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Heīs understandably angry at the guy, I mean, some douche puts on a cape and cowl, grabs a gun and thinks heīs Batman too. Iīd be pissed.

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Other than the constantly growly tone, which is his approach, I donīt recall moments where he went "crazy" with no need.
You're right, it's just the rest of the world that thinks so.

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You're right, it's just the rest of the world that thinks so.
If I just thought what the rest of the world thought, I wouldnīt need to post my opinion, cuz I wouldnīt have any of my own. Whatīs your excuse?

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It's not about following popular opinion. I was pointing out the fact that if it were truly non-existent, there wouldn't be so many people pointing it out, and various parodies being made out of it.

The worst part is that anyone doing a Batman impersonation now, is doing the Bale voice. And it's intentionally cartoony sounding every single time. I remember pre-BB, when even the dorkiest guys had the Keaton-whisper down. Like...wtf, this is a downgrade.

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It's not about following popular opinion. I was pointing out the fact that if it were truly non-existent, there wouldn't be so many people pointing it out, and various parodies being made out of it.

The worst part is that anyone doing a Batman impersonation now, is doing the Bale voice. And it's intentionally cartoony sounding every single time. I remember pre-BB, when even the dorkiest guys had the Keaton-whisper down. Like...wtf, this is a downgrade.
Dude they were parodying the Keaton Batman all the time. Even Tiny Toon Adventures, which was a WB product, made fun of the fact he was this wimp wearing a rubber suit to look tough. And they made fun of the voice in some eps too.Mad Magazine did hilarious drawings of him looking clumsy trying to do action in that cumbersome suit.

Regardless of that, each viewer is entitled to be bothered by that or not. Iīm not. Simple. How the "rest of the world" feels is not my problem.

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While I think 100% Kevin is the definitive voice of Batman, I prefer Conroys original Batman voice to this modern one he has been using for the last few years, but hey, I really like Bales voice too, its different and sounds badass to me. However I think Bales John Conner "You and me have been at war..." voice would be even better and more widely appealing.

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