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Old 11-18-2009, 09:24 PM   #101
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if superman is fighting the villain in a highly populated area they should address why superman can't take the fight somewhere deserted like Goku would usually do.

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Old 11-18-2009, 10:11 PM   #102
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if superman is fighting the villain in a highly populated area they should address why superman can't take the fight somewhere deserted like Goku would usually do.


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Old 11-18-2009, 11:01 PM   #103
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if superman is fighting the villain in a highly populated area they should address why superman can't take the fight somewhere deserted like Goku would usually do.
why can't he? what are you talking about?

he did that in superman 2.

although i think it would be much cooler to fight in the middle of the city, villians could use innocent bystanders against superman.

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Old 11-18-2009, 11:18 PM   #104
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if superman is fighting the villain in a highly populated area they should address why superman can't take the fight somewhere deserted like Goku would usually do.
Because Superman does not have one dimension villains, not all of them would just go join him in the desert fight.

He cannot just fly off and hope they chase him there either. Some he has tried to take to more isolated areas, but like Doomsday, end up bashing him around when he tries to move him.

Most of the reason why is that Supermanís Villains do not just show up, square off, and "try to fight" Superman.

Also, on plenty of occasions, Superman has done just that, when he can.

He has taken it to the moon before it if he has to.

I think if there is a big enough fight, maybe the movie should do just that, they start fighting in the city, and then Superman moves the fight out to some other place.

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Old 11-19-2009, 12:36 AM   #105
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totally those could all work.

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Old 11-19-2009, 10:33 PM   #106
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who would protect the city from a supervillain attack or if one breaks out of Stryker's when superman is off on Warworld or Apokolips? luckily for the superman returns movie they didn't have to worry about such an idea when he went searching for Krypton b/c there weren't any other supervillains around except Lex.

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Old 11-19-2009, 11:37 PM   #107
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well if we were in a world with crazy hightech weapons and other superheroes around some other guy could come in, or the special police on super beings and all that.

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Old 11-20-2009, 10:59 PM   #108
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if superman lives in a world where other superheroes exists perhaps they can bring up the topic of how Superman would and should never be like the batman. ma or pa kent or even lois can bring it up.

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Old 11-21-2009, 01:22 AM   #109
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that would be cool.

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Old 11-21-2009, 10:16 PM   #110
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if superman finds some other way to defeat the villain other than fighting them til their down they should address why he didn't think of or do that in the first place. especially if that solution was available all along.

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Old 12-12-2009, 10:45 PM   #111
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two other things that could be addressed are: where does superman go after a fight? and where has he been before he first shows up?
maybe the people of metropolis could become curious about where he disappears to after his first couple of appearances.

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Old 12-12-2009, 10:48 PM   #112
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well in the comics they think he is being a hero 24/7 right? so maybe they will just think he is off doing another save somewhere around the world.

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Old 12-14-2009, 11:52 PM   #113
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Exactly, because as Superman he seems so above everything, humans would fall into the mindset of seeing him as just what they see and nothing more than a fulltime superman.

Its also normal for humans to create hero exaggeration. No matter how tall Superman is for example, people will think he is a half foot taller than that, because of the impression he gives them. They see him as a Mythic god.

That is another thing that actually should be explained, as it would make a good character development.

I mean about him not being a god.

He could be talking to Lois, as she is taking notes for a story "is Superman a god?", and he responds to her with "absolutely not. I cannot be everywhere at once, I am not omnipresent, even as fast as I am".

To which Lois responds with (somewhat sadly) "and thatís why you cannot save everyone?"

Superman responds with "I can see through walls, but I cannot see eveything either, I am not all seeing".

Lois; " I know now, so you donít pick and chose who you will save, you just do the best you can?".

Superman; " Yes, I will always do everything I can to save anyone, but as powerful as I am, I do not have the power to save everyone from harm, and I certainly do not have the power to save their soul. I should never be confused with a god either".
I agree; I always hated those kinds of comparisons. I like to think of Superman as being a human with extroardinary abilities. What kind of choices would a person make if they could do things like that? I understand that he is kryptonian, that's why he has the abilities that he does, but he is also a character filled with emotion; and he has a conscience. The "god" comparisons have always been a turn-off for me.

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Old 12-15-2009, 04:41 PM   #114
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1. Krypton = Earth

2. Clark is clumsy, weak, slouched over, uncharismatic he wears the uniform of the everyman, and a fortress of solitude.

3. Superman can fly because of telekinesis.

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Old 12-15-2009, 05:10 PM   #115
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well in the comics they think he is being a hero 24/7 right? so maybe they will just think he is off doing another save somewhere around the world.
I always thought it's like that. BUt it wouldn't be any difficult to check that Superman was nowhere to be seen. Otherwise there would be news about it and everyone would be knowing about it.

What I want to know is presicely why Superman does not work 24/7 as a superhero? It's clear that more people could be saved if he were active all the time.

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Old 12-15-2009, 05:12 PM   #116
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1. No , I wouldn't address it . I might give Kryptonians a different lanuage with subtitles .
2. I think the Lois and Clark method of different Hair styles and body posture is enough . I wouldn't mind Clark also having a bit of a midwestern accent , where as Superman's voice may be deeper and without an accent. Not a Batman growl, but more of bass sound.
3. The yellow sun gives him enhanced abilities. Nuff said.Lol.

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Old 12-15-2009, 08:44 PM   #117
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I always thought it's like that. BUt it wouldn't be any difficult to check that Superman was nowhere to be seen. Otherwise there would be news about it and everyone would be knowing about it.

What I want to know is presicely why Superman does not work 24/7 as a superhero? It's clear that more people could be saved if he were active all the time.
I'm sure even Superman needs a change of pace from time to time. He also needs time for relationships.

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yea from what i like to think is superman would like to have time to do other things and have a life besides doing the hero thing. Sure that is a main thing for him and he wants to be there for the world and help when he can. But it would be a boring life if thats all he had to do.

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Old 12-16-2009, 06:24 AM   #119
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I'm sure even Superman needs a change of pace from time to time. He also needs time for relationships.
Oh, I'm positive. But then again I'm sure he knows that saving lives is for him a higher priority than having a normal life.

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yea from what i like to think is superman would like to have time to do other things and have a life besides doing the hero thing. Sure that is a main thing for him and he wants to be there for the world and help when he can. But it would be a boring life if thats all he had to do.
Yeah, but I don't think "too boring" is a good enough excuse to not saving lives while he could; "No, I pass from saving as many lives as I could because I could get bored."

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^ You don't need it spelt out; the existence of Clark Kent and the double identity is the very answer to your question. Superman can't be Superman all day, he'd go crazy, quite literally. Best-case-scenario, he'd end up like Red Son Superman.

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^ You don't need it spelt out; the existence of Clark Kent and the double identity is the very answer to your question. Superman can't be Superman all day, he'd go crazy, quite literally. Best-case-scenario, he'd end up like Red Son Superman.
Superman could sleep 8 hours a day and all (so he doesn't have to be Superman literally 24/7). But how could he go crazy if his mental and brain capacities exceed human ones?

I think he should have a solid reason to spend 8 hours a day having a job instead of saving lives.

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I can imagine a scene where a Doomsday, Metallo, Darkseid, ect shows up in downtown Metropolis spoiling for a fight.

Supermans first concern would be all the innocent bystanders. The villain would think no more of them than we do ants.

Superman would try of course to lead the Villain away but I doubt it would work.

I could see some loss of life in a situation like that. Does Superman save the family of four who are trapped in a building thats about to collapse, or the police officers who are about to get crushed by the villain.
Keep in mind Superman would be fighting the villain at the same time he is trying to save innocents.
If such a situation really happened, the loss of life would be considerable. So unless we want a ''kiddie'' film, i'd like to see something like this.

You could have lots of tension if its done correctly.

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Old 12-16-2009, 10:34 AM   #123
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Superman could sleep 8 hours a day and all (so he doesn't have to be Superman literally 24/7). But how could he go crazy if his mental and brain capacities exceed human ones?
Because he needs to have a life. Even if he wasn't raised as a human, which already makes that a big deal in and on itself, he'd still need to be in touch with his own humanity. He's not a god, he can't spend all day patrolling the streets, he'll flip.

That aside, if he doesn't mingle, he'll lose sight of why he does what he does and even out of good intentions, he'll most likely end up a dictator of sorts. He already does the most he can; he takes time out of the day to patrol the streets, he has a 24/7 open channel in his freaking head to respond to calls for help and he has based his entire career around being employed in a major news center where he can stay on top of everything that happens worldwide. That's already going the extra mile, without losing everything that makes him human.

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i actually got a question, does superman really need to eat/sleep at all?

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^ It really depends on the writer. Realistically speaking, he probably needs to do both at a much lower frequency than other human beings. For all intends and purposes, his body is still very much structured like any other person's, which means he needs the cooldown and food to process.

These things are usually addressed in pretty much every version, though; I'd expect them to throw a line or two about it somewhere there.

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