The Marvel/DC "3 vs. 3" Battle thread - Page 3

SuperFerret · 10-11-2009, 07:34 PM

Eventually doesn't help him if Zatanna wins before he figures it out. He's at a disadvantage because he doesn't know her powers, so she'll have to get at least one spell off before he could put it together. His Spider-sense would help him work it out faster, but it'd still come at the expense of letting Zee go first.

Blacklight · 10-11-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperFerret

Eventually doesn't help him if Zatanna wins before he figures it out. He's at a disadvantage because he doesn't know her powers, so she'll have to get at least one spell off before he could put it together. His Spider-sense would help him work it out faster, but it'd still come at the expense of letting Zee go first.

I agree. I guess it would depend on how much Spidey can take and what kinda spells Zee casts

louiebling$ · 10-11-2009, 08:36 PM

I See Spidey being able to take out Aquaman and Z
I see Sue bieng able to take out arthur and Z also
Scarlett could Also take out Z and Arthur

Hal is the problem....In the end I can see Hal Taking out all three alone.

Hal,Aquaman, and Z take the win.

SuperFerret · 10-11-2009, 08:42 PM

Aquaman would school Parker and Sue could take Hal.

Blacklight · 10-11-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperFerret

Aquaman would school Parker and Sue could take Hal.

He would give Pete a good beating. Especially because in this fight he has the water hand

SuperFerret · 10-11-2009, 08:58 PM

To be honest, a Spider-Man/Aquaman team up would be a pretty fun read.

Hound55 · 10-11-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by louiebling$

I See Spidey being able to take out Aquaman and Z
I see Sue bieng able to take out arthur and Z also
Scarlett could Also take out Z and Arthur

Hal is the problem....In the end I can see Hal Taking out all three alone.

Hal,Aquaman, and Z take the win.

If nothing else Spidey and Arthur would be drawn out...

The only shot I see in this for the Marvel 3 is Spidey webs up Z face fairly early after realising her power set... Scarlet Witch makes herself useful and cold-*****/finishes off Z and then sets to double-teaming on Hal or Arthur.

Its really not the fairest fight because there's some different power sets there... as mentioned a GL is in a whole other league from Spidey and in his own element Arthur is too. On land it still probably tips towards Arthur.

The 2 ? marks are the Marvel girls... because Scarlet's immensely powerful but pretty unstable and Sue is a sleeper...

Harlekin · 10-12-2009, 12:50 AM

DC with remarkable ease. Besides Zee's magic, Aquaman is still stronger than any one of the opponents and also has telepathic powers.

bkhedr · 10-12-2009, 01:51 AM

Here's how I see it.

To me Wanda and Zatanna cancel each other out (more likely Wanda has the advantage by causing Z's spells to backfire)

Sue can more than hold her own against GL and would make short work of Arthur.

And Spidey? If need be he can keep Arthur busy alot longer than you would think.

He wouldn't beat him. But bear with me.

Wanda = Zatanna

Sue beats Hal

Arthur beats Pete

Sue beats Arthur

Sue + Wanda > Zatana

Marvel Wins

SuperFerret · 10-12-2009, 01:59 AM

I've never seen anything from Wanda outside of the JLA/Avengers crossover (which were under extenuating (sp?) circumstances) that remotely puts her on the same level as Zatanna with regards to power scope.

bkhedr · 10-12-2009, 02:04 AM

Wanda's so up and down that she ranges from completely useless (her early appearances) to able to rewrite reality on a whim (House of M).

I like to even her out to something akin to Zatanna's power level and based on the current Mighty Avengers line, I think that's about right.

Hound55 · 10-12-2009, 08:08 AM

If Wanda can make Zatanna stutter or similar it gets interesting too...

Wanda's a ? because you've no idea who's turning up...

I'm still saying this DC 3 are a step above...

SuperFerret · 10-12-2009, 08:51 AM

So Wanda was responsible for House of M all on her own? I thought there was some outside influence or something.

Johnny Blaze · 10-12-2009, 11:09 AM

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So Wanda was responsible for House of M all on her own? I thought there was some outside influence or something.

Don't. Don't mention that **** storyline that crapped all over years of continuity and back story for Wanda.

bkhedr · 10-12-2009, 01:39 PM

JB's understandably upset (the only thing that sucked more than HOM was Avengers Disassembeled) but the fact remains, Wanda's power levels went off the scale back then, and if we want to get technical, we do not know what her current power levels are and the last time she displayed any power she was a top flight reality manipulator which, and here's the point, trumps Zatanna (in my opinion)

bkhedr · 10-12-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperFerret

So Wanda was responsible for House of M all on her own? I thought there was some outside influence or something.

Yes

Harlekin · 10-12-2009, 03:37 PM

How's Sue trumping Arthur? Quick, painless psi-bolt from the King of Atlantis and Mrs. Richards is down.

SuperFerret · 10-12-2009, 05:40 PM

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Yes

Lame.

Genesis 1.0 · 10-12-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Harlekin

DC with remarkable ease. Besides Zee's magic, Aquaman is still stronger than any one of the opponents and also has telepathic powers.

^This.

I mean come on, the DC group is simply an order of magnitude above the Marvel 3, popularity aside.

DC Crew

This is like throwing naked pre-teen boys at Michael Jackson.

Too soon?

Majic Walrus · 10-12-2009, 06:45 PM

Good God this is a slaughter. DC wins.

SuperFerret · 10-12-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Genesis 1.0

Too soon?

Not soon enough.

bkhedr · 10-13-2009, 03:29 AM

I have to say that I rethought my point of view (without the Marvel tinted glasses) and now see it more like this:

DC trumps Marvel as long as one of them is able to take out Wanda before she acts.

If they don't manage she turns them (Zatanna included) into leggo blocks and Marvel wins.

Genesis 1.0 · 10-13-2009, 04:34 PM

Wanda's going to get beatdown either way.

SuperFerret · 10-13-2009, 04:42 PM

Gen, you see why I hate new power developments in a lot of characters? When "probability control" turns into "transmutation into legos", there's a problem.

Johnny Blaze · 10-13-2009, 08:20 PM

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Gen, you see why I hate new power developments in a lot of characters? When "probability control" turns into "transmutation into legos", there's a problem.

I concur. It seems they simply changed her powers up and stomped on twenty plus years of continuity just because they felt like it. That = some ****ing, **** **** sucking, ********.

10-11-2009, 07:34 PM	#51
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10-11-2009, 08:36 PM	#53
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10-11-2009, 08:42 PM	#54
SuperFerret Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SuperFerret's Shoebox of Solitude Posts: 32,551	Re: The Marvel/DC "3 vs. 3" Battle thread Aquaman would school Parker and Sue could take Hal. __________________ Faster than a speeding hamster. -----More powerful than a box of tissues. ----------Able to leap off of tall buildings and hit the ground.

10-11-2009, 08:58 PM	#56
SuperFerret Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SuperFerret's Shoebox of Solitude Posts: 32,551	Re: The Marvel/DC "3 vs. 3" Battle thread To be honest, a Spider-Man/Aquaman team up would be a pretty fun read. __________________ Faster than a speeding hamster. -----More powerful than a box of tissues. ----------Able to leap off of tall buildings and hit the ground.

10-12-2009, 12:50 AM	#58
Harlekin Business Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,592	Re: The Marvel/DC "3 vs. 3" Battle thread DC with remarkable ease. Besides Zee's magic, Aquaman is still stronger than any one of the opponents and also has telepathic powers.

10-12-2009, 01:51 AM	#59
bkhedr Man of Mayhem Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Frak!!! Posts: 3,529	Re: The Marvel/DC "3 vs. 3" Battle thread Here's how I see it. To me Wanda and Zatanna cancel each other out (more likely Wanda has the advantage by causing Z's spells to backfire) Sue can more than hold her own against GL and would make short work of Arthur. And Spidey? If need be he can keep Arthur busy alot longer than you would think. He wouldn't beat him. But bear with me. Wanda = Zatanna Sue beats Hal Arthur beats Pete Sue beats Arthur Sue + Wanda > Zatana Marvel Wins __________________ Cedat Fortuna Peritis - Skill is better than luck "Kneel before Zod!"

10-12-2009, 01:59 AM	#60
SuperFerret Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SuperFerret's Shoebox of Solitude Posts: 32,551	Re: The Marvel/DC "3 vs. 3" Battle thread I've never seen anything from Wanda outside of the JLA/Avengers crossover (which were under extenuating (sp?) circumstances) that remotely puts her on the same level as Zatanna with regards to power scope. __________________ Faster than a speeding hamster. -----More powerful than a box of tissues. ----------Able to leap off of tall buildings and hit the ground.

10-12-2009, 02:04 AM	#61
bkhedr Man of Mayhem Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Frak!!! Posts: 3,529	Re: The Marvel/DC "3 vs. 3" Battle thread Wanda's so up and down that she ranges from completely useless (her early appearances) to able to rewrite reality on a whim (House of M). I like to even her out to something akin to Zatanna's power level and based on the current Mighty Avengers line, I think that's about right. __________________ Cedat Fortuna Peritis - Skill is better than luck "Kneel before Zod!"

10-12-2009, 08:08 AM	#62
Hound55 Byfar The Most Evil Thing Join Date: May 2009 Location: Merry old land of Aust. Posts: 10,052	Re: The Marvel/DC "3 vs. 3" Battle thread If Wanda can make Zatanna stutter or similar it gets interesting too... Wanda's a ? because you've no idea who's turning up... I'm still saying this DC 3 are a step above...

10-12-2009, 08:51 AM	#63
SuperFerret Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SuperFerret's Shoebox of Solitude Posts: 32,551	Re: The Marvel/DC "3 vs. 3" Battle thread So Wanda was responsible for House of M all on her own? I thought there was some outside influence or something. __________________ Faster than a speeding hamster. -----More powerful than a box of tissues. ----------Able to leap off of tall buildings and hit the ground.

10-12-2009, 01:39 PM	#65
bkhedr Man of Mayhem Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Frak!!! Posts: 3,529	Re: The Marvel/DC "3 vs. 3" Battle thread JB's understandably upset (the only thing that sucked more than HOM was Avengers Disassembeled) but the fact remains, Wanda's power levels went off the scale back then, and if we want to get technical, we do not know what her current power levels are and the last time she displayed any power she was a top flight reality manipulator which, and here's the point, trumps Zatanna (in my opinion) __________________ Cedat Fortuna Peritis - Skill is better than luck "Kneel before Zod!"

10-12-2009, 03:37 PM	#67
Harlekin Business Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,592	Re: The Marvel/DC "3 vs. 3" Battle thread How's Sue trumping Arthur? Quick, painless psi-bolt from the King of Atlantis and Mrs. Richards is down.

10-13-2009, 03:29 AM	#72
bkhedr Man of Mayhem Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Frak!!! Posts: 3,529	Re: The Marvel/DC "3 vs. 3" Battle thread I have to say that I rethought my point of view (without the Marvel tinted glasses) and now see it more like this: DC trumps Marvel as long as one of them is able to take out Wanda before she acts. If they don't manage she turns them (Zatanna included) into leggo blocks and Marvel wins. __________________ Cedat Fortuna Peritis - Skill is better than luck "Kneel before Zod!"

10-13-2009, 04:34 PM	#73
Genesis 1.0 Thread Overlord's Minion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 8,549	Re: The Marvel/DC "3 vs. 3" Battle thread Wanda's going to get beatdown either way. __________________ The Baltimore Ravens: Stab N' Grab World Champions "What is Dead may never Die."

10-13-2009, 04:42 PM	#74
SuperFerret Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SuperFerret's Shoebox of Solitude Posts: 32,551	Re: The Marvel/DC "3 vs. 3" Battle thread Gen, you see why I hate new power developments in a lot of characters? When "probability control" turns into "transmutation into legos", there's a problem. __________________ Faster than a speeding hamster. -----More powerful than a box of tissues. ----------Able to leap off of tall buildings and hit the ground.

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