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Old 10-11-2009, 07:34 PM   #51
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Eventually doesn't help him if Zatanna wins before he figures it out. He's at a disadvantage because he doesn't know her powers, so she'll have to get at least one spell off before he could put it together. His Spider-sense would help him work it out faster, but it'd still come at the expense of letting Zee go first.

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Old 10-11-2009, 07:41 PM   #52
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Eventually doesn't help him if Zatanna wins before he figures it out. He's at a disadvantage because he doesn't know her powers, so she'll have to get at least one spell off before he could put it together. His Spider-sense would help him work it out faster, but it'd still come at the expense of letting Zee go first.
I agree. I guess it would depend on how much Spidey can take and what kinda spells Zee casts

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Old 10-11-2009, 08:36 PM   #53
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I See Spidey being able to take out Aquaman and Z
I see Sue bieng able to take out arthur and Z also
Scarlett could Also take out Z and Arthur

Hal is the problem....In the end I can see Hal Taking out all three alone.

Hal,Aquaman, and Z take the win.

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Aquaman would school Parker and Sue could take Hal.

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Old 10-11-2009, 08:47 PM   #55
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Aquaman would school Parker and Sue could take Hal.
He would give Pete a good beating. Especially because in this fight he has the water hand

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Old 10-11-2009, 08:58 PM   #56
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To be honest, a Spider-Man/Aquaman team up would be a pretty fun read.

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Old 10-11-2009, 09:10 PM   #57
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I See Spidey being able to take out Aquaman and Z
I see Sue bieng able to take out arthur and Z also
Scarlett could Also take out Z and Arthur

Hal is the problem....In the end I can see Hal Taking out all three alone.

Hal,Aquaman, and Z take the win.
If nothing else Spidey and Arthur would be drawn out...

The only shot I see in this for the Marvel 3 is Spidey webs up Z face fairly early after realising her power set... Scarlet Witch makes herself useful and cold-*****/finishes off Z and then sets to double-teaming on Hal or Arthur.

Its really not the fairest fight because there's some different power sets there... as mentioned a GL is in a whole other league from Spidey and in his own element Arthur is too. On land it still probably tips towards Arthur.

The 2 ? marks are the Marvel girls... because Scarlet's immensely powerful but pretty unstable and Sue is a sleeper...

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Old 10-12-2009, 12:50 AM   #58
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DC with remarkable ease. Besides Zee's magic, Aquaman is still stronger than any one of the opponents and also has telepathic powers.

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Old 10-12-2009, 01:51 AM   #59
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Here's how I see it.

To me Wanda and Zatanna cancel each other out (more likely Wanda has the advantage by causing Z's spells to backfire)

Sue can more than hold her own against GL and would make short work of Arthur.

And Spidey? If need be he can keep Arthur busy alot longer than you would think.

He wouldn't beat him. But bear with me.

Wanda = Zatanna

Sue beats Hal

Arthur beats Pete

Sue beats Arthur

Sue + Wanda > Zatana

Marvel Wins

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Old 10-12-2009, 01:59 AM   #60
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I've never seen anything from Wanda outside of the JLA/Avengers crossover (which were under extenuating (sp?) circumstances) that remotely puts her on the same level as Zatanna with regards to power scope.

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Old 10-12-2009, 02:04 AM   #61
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Wanda's so up and down that she ranges from completely useless (her early appearances) to able to rewrite reality on a whim (House of M).

I like to even her out to something akin to Zatanna's power level and based on the current Mighty Avengers line, I think that's about right.

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If Wanda can make Zatanna stutter or similar it gets interesting too...

Wanda's a ? because you've no idea who's turning up...

I'm still saying this DC 3 are a step above...

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So Wanda was responsible for House of M all on her own? I thought there was some outside influence or something.

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Old 10-12-2009, 11:09 AM   #64
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So Wanda was responsible for House of M all on her own? I thought there was some outside influence or something.
Don't. Don't mention that **** storyline that crapped all over years of continuity and back story for Wanda.

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Old 10-12-2009, 01:39 PM   #65
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JB's understandably upset (the only thing that sucked more than HOM was Avengers Disassembeled) but the fact remains, Wanda's power levels went off the scale back then, and if we want to get technical, we do not know what her current power levels are and the last time she displayed any power she was a top flight reality manipulator which, and here's the point, trumps Zatanna (in my opinion)

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Old 10-12-2009, 01:40 PM   #66
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So Wanda was responsible for House of M all on her own? I thought there was some outside influence or something.
Yes

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How's Sue trumping Arthur? Quick, painless psi-bolt from the King of Atlantis and Mrs. Richards is down.

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DC with remarkable ease. Besides Zee's magic, Aquaman is still stronger than any one of the opponents and also has telepathic powers.
^This.

I mean come on, the DC group is simply an order of magnitude above the Marvel 3, popularity aside.

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Good God this is a slaughter. DC wins.

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Old 10-13-2009, 03:29 AM   #72
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I have to say that I rethought my point of view (without the Marvel tinted glasses) and now see it more like this:

DC trumps Marvel as long as one of them is able to take out Wanda before she acts.

If they don't manage she turns them (Zatanna included) into leggo blocks and Marvel wins.

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Wanda's going to get beatdown either way.

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Gen, you see why I hate new power developments in a lot of characters? When "probability control" turns into "transmutation into legos", there's a problem.

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Gen, you see why I hate new power developments in a lot of characters? When "probability control" turns into "transmutation into legos", there's a problem.
I concur. It seems they simply changed her powers up and stomped on twenty plus years of continuity just because they felt like it. That = some ****ing, **** **** sucking, ********.

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