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Old 10-19-2009, 05:38 AM   #1
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Default What artistic diection would you take a Superman film?

Would there ever be scenes like in SPIDERMAN where peter freeze frames to that rain drops song?

would it be more in the style of stephen sommers film? That fun adventure style film like Zoro or the mummy

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Old 10-19-2009, 06:02 AM   #2
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I'd simplify it.

Superman vs. Brainiac. You'd have Brainiac trying to turn Metropolis against Superman using intelligence and corruption, but in the end Superman wins because he stands for something pure.

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that is not what i asked sorry
you just gave me a basic plot

I am more talking about the visuals of the film, the atmosphere.
colors, language, era of the film, the costumes.

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i wouldnt experiement to much. the new movie needs to kick ass.no mroe extra chances. some basic look plus dont forget lens flares.

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Overall, make the film Bright, full of color, and hopeful....

Maybe have a scene where his heat vision goes in slo-mo..
It starts with his eyes glowing bright red and smoking, then twin beams of red energy shoot out and slice through the air toward the villain. It makes the very air surrounding it sizzle.
You could show what affect it has on the villain when it strikes him. Again, all in slow-mo.
I'm not sure what song would best be suited for a scene like this, but it needs one..

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Old 10-19-2009, 11:09 AM   #6
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The closest I've seen to the way I'd approach a Superman movie is the work of Sam Mendes, or a restrained Martin Scorsese. Timeless, serious, and relevant, but not quite Americana.

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Old 10-19-2009, 11:47 AM   #7
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I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but I'd like to see the Vancouverish blue hue they had for Metropolis in Smallville.

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This is something I need to give more thought to in general, I'm so caught up in what I want done story wise that I don't give these questions enough thought....

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yea i first would want the film bright, and cheerful with alot of colors(not as zany as speed racer) but you know not dark and gritty and dull colors.

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Old 10-19-2009, 01:50 PM   #10
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I would go completely digital backlot on the movie. Just about everything shot against a green screen. It would be the best of Sky Captain, Casshern, Mutant Chronicles, Speed Racer. Bright colors, big environments, make it look like the old Fleisher cartoons come to life. It'll be retro-futuristic or retro-modern, whatever the term is. Every time I watch Sky Captain I marvel at how great it looks, and how much better it could look with some more money and work put into it.

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I would go completely digital backlot on the movie. Just about everything shot against a green screen. It would be the best of Sky Captain, Casshern, Mutant Chronicles, Speed Racer. Bright colors, big environments, make it look like the old Fleisher cartoons come to life. It'll be retro-futuristic or retro-modern, whatever the term is. Every time I watch Sky Captain I marvel at how great it looks, and how much better it could look with some more money and work put into it.

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Hey, new guy here.

I'd switch it up a bit with the different locations if I were the one in charge. Before I start the villain in my Superman movie would be Lobo, more on that later.

For the scenes (if any) in Smallville, I'd make the outside shots a lush green and the sky a bright blue, dress the characters off-whites and faded blues. I think it would help to represent the small town. I'd also make it feel isolated, like it's a safe haven away from the crimes and corruption in Metropolis and other areas, also show this through the reactions of the locals. Something such as a stolen car would be the talk of the town in Smallville when Metropolis folk would just shrug it off.

The interiors of the Daily Planet would be brown, black and somewhat dull which would make a brighter color, such as Navy Blue, worn by Clark, Lois, Jimmy, and Perry pop a bit more I think. I'd include characters dressed in brown suits and fedoras to give it an old-timey feel.

Metropolis would have extremely tall skyscrapers and appear ahead of it's time, semi-futuristic. Colorful people and cars, a blue sky similar to Smallville but a bit cloudy.

The Fortress of Solitude would be just that. A cold blue without much of a score, if any something similar to the score of the mountain mansion in Twilight Princess.

Superman's bright blue and red would stand out from all of this, as would Lobo's pale grey skin, bright red eyes, and black clothing. I'd include them fighting while in space for a few minutes, with no sound at all. Just the two of them floating in the black, a planet or the moon visible in the background.

I'd include an animated prologue, I see it as Dr. Seuss-like of Lobo as a child on Czarnia and growing up to destroy every last inhabitant of his planet.

I apologize if I overdid it.

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Old 10-24-2009, 02:13 PM   #13
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I would have a more serious overtone with superman..not dark as the dark knight,but at least not joel schumacher grotesque.
I would have superman face down against metallo,a cyborg created by luthor to destroy superman and the parasite.
a big fight finishes in metropolis with supes beating metallo to a pulp and saving the world.

i'd have an after credits scene to bring doomsday into the mix..just have a meteor crash deep into the ocean and the camera pan down to the boom of fist against the meteor rock..to end with a growl and some red burning eyes...

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anybody for or against having slo-mo in the movie?

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Here's my take:

* Visual Influences - Best example off the top of my head of the range of visual influences I'd draw on would be with the origin...
- Krypton: A futurized amalgam of Ancient Rome and Egypt, Medieval England, and Feudal Japan; essentially, the lost civilization of tomorrow.
- Smallville: A mix of S:TAS and "Superman For All Seasons", with elements of my own hometown thrown in - JUST out of touch with the present day, sort of in the opposite direction of what I'd do with...
- Metropolis: A combo of the most decadent and high-tech aspects of New York City, Tokyo, and Dubai, with slight traces of Robocop's Detroit, Rick Deckard's L.A., and Marty McFly Jr.'s Hill Valley - basically a comparatively ancient 'base' version of what Kryptonian civilization ultimately became.
In terms of production, Krypton would probably have to be shot entirely green-screen with small sets and CGIed later; Smallville would be locations and sets; and Metropolis a mix of all three.
* Atmosphere/Tone - Somewhere between "Raiders Of The Lost Ark" and "Back To The Future" - dynamic action sequences, modest-to-brisk pacing, and a generally upbeat tone with a few tense moments.
* Colors - All over the place. The movie would be sort of the opposite of Nolan's Bat-films in many regards - kind of a modern-day version of "The Adventures Of Robin Hood" - particularly in terms of the basic pallette of the film.
* Language/Dialogue - Very formal and pronounced on Krypton (which, BTW, would be subtitled, in reference to the early SW and ST films); very down-to-earth and less formal in Smallville; and very snappy and Hawksian when we get to Metropolis.
* Era/Time Frame - Not really determinable, a la S:TAS; there'd be elements that would be retro and elements that would be futuristic, but nothing that really roots in either one, and not in the present...basically it exists in its own world.
* Costumes - Kryptonian costumes would carry the same historical influences as I mentioned above for Krypton - lots of serpentine jewelry, multicolored togas and tunics, headdresses, armored motifs like epaulettes and shinguards, etc.; outfits in Smallville would be the more practical outfits you'd expect to see in a small farm town - lots of coveralls and flannel shirts and sweaters and sneakers and blue jeans and Sunday best and the like; and wardrobe in Metropolis would have a wider, more fashionable range.
* Music - Not much of what passes today for 'pop music', that's for sure. Musically, the only things at this point I know I'd do are with the score, and that's 1) to make the sure the main theme music carries the same three-note motif that has been a part of the radio show and Fleischer cartoon theme, the George Reeves TV show theme, the Christopher Reeve movie theme, and the S:TAS theme, and 2) to make sure there's a leitmotif structure for every major character - each of the major villains should have their own theme music, etc.

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i like how that sounds man, i would be down for that look for the film/new series.

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Transformers meets Star Trek for the color palette would probably work.

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what ever it is it should be bright bold colors.

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Here's my take:

* Visual Influences - Best example off the top of my head of the range of visual influences I'd draw on would be with the origin...
- Krypton: A futurized amalgam of Ancient Rome and Egypt, Medieval England, and Feudal Japan; essentially, the lost civilization of tomorrow.
- Smallville: A mix of S:TAS and "Superman For All Seasons", with elements of my own hometown thrown in - JUST out of touch with the present day, sort of in the opposite direction of what I'd do with...
- Metropolis: A combo of the most decadent and high-tech aspects of New York City, Tokyo, and Dubai, with slight traces of Robocop's Detroit, Rick Deckard's L.A., and Marty McFly Jr.'s Hill Valley - basically a comparatively ancient 'base' version of what Kryptonian civilization ultimately became.
In terms of production, Krypton would probably have to be shot entirely green-screen with small sets and CGIed later; Smallville would be locations and sets; and Metropolis a mix of all three.
* Atmosphere/Tone - Somewhere between "Raiders Of The Lost Ark" and "Back To The Future" - dynamic action sequences, modest-to-brisk pacing, and a generally upbeat tone with a few tense moments.
* Colors - All over the place. The movie would be sort of the opposite of Nolan's Bat-films in many regards - kind of a modern-day version of "The Adventures Of Robin Hood" - particularly in terms of the basic pallette of the film.
* Language/Dialogue - Very formal and pronounced on Krypton (which, BTW, would be subtitled, in reference to the early SW and ST films); very down-to-earth and less formal in Smallville; and very snappy and Hawksian when we get to Metropolis.
* Era/Time Frame - Not really determinable, a la S:TAS; there'd be elements that would be retro and elements that would be futuristic, but nothing that really roots in either one, and not in the present...basically it exists in its own world.
* Costumes - Kryptonian costumes would carry the same historical influences as I mentioned above for Krypton - lots of serpentine jewelry, multicolored togas and tunics, headdresses, armored motifs like epaulettes and shinguards, etc.; outfits in Smallville would be the more practical outfits you'd expect to see in a small farm town - lots of coveralls and flannel shirts and sweaters and sneakers and blue jeans and Sunday best and the like; and wardrobe in Metropolis would have a wider, more fashionable range.
* Music - Not much of what passes today for 'pop music', that's for sure. Musically, the only things at this point I know I'd do are with the score, and that's 1) to make the sure the main theme music carries the same three-note motif that has been a part of the radio show and Fleischer cartoon theme, the George Reeves TV show theme, the Christopher Reeve movie theme, and the S:TAS theme, and 2) to make sure there's a leitmotif structure for every major character - each of the major villains should have their own theme music, etc.
Do Kyroptone and Metropolis have a long history together or something? Or US period?

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Do Kyroptone and Metropolis have a long history together or something? Or US period?
The idea is to play up Metropolis as The City Of Tomorrow, and the notion that, under the right guidance, it could ultimately evolve into something comparable to Krypton at its peak.

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it would be cool to see a superman movie done like the cloverfield movie. especially if was the death of superman storyline.

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nah i dont think that would work out that well.

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it would be cool to see a superman movie done like the cloverfield movie. especially if was the death of superman storyline.
it would be cool to see, for sure
but i dont think its right for the next superman movie

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yea its a cool style of filming for films like that or a blair witch, but for superhero films we should just have that standard look u know, with the director's artistic choices and all that.

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imagine someone just standing there on the sidewalk with their handheld camera just filming Lois crying over Superman's dead body. or someone looking out their apartment window filming superman fight doomsday. i would find those kind of scenes for example in the death of superman storyline visually compelling if they were done cloverfield-style.

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