Re-Writing the Star Wars Prequels....

[SchumacherFan]

My thing with PT (Prequel Trilogy) was there weren't that many good new characters! Mace Windu, Qui Gon Jinn and Darth Maul were the only decent characters in the new series and that is only because of the awesome talent behind the characters that made the characters! Even Amidala kinda sucked, she was snotty and stuck up at certain parts and extremely un-human, kind of a robot. Nute Gunray, Boss Nass, Jar Jar Binks were all terrible new characters that went nowhere except to bug people...

In the OT (Original Trilogy), you had:

A Farm Boy ; the Everyman Hero (Luke)
A Wizard (Obi Wan)
A Princess (Leia)
An Anti-Hero (Han)
An Evil Villain (Vader)
A Gangster (Jabba)
A General of the Evil Empire (Tarkin)
An Evil Dictator ala Hitler (Palpatine)
A Traitor (Lando)

That made it cool, a variety of neat characters all with this Galactic War going on in the background (Empire vs. Rebellion). All these characters had arcs and developed.

In the PT, you had:

A Boy (Anakin)
A Boy turned into Whiny Teen (Anakin)
A Wise Samurai (Qui Gon)
A Samurai Apprentice (Obi Wan)
An Evil Samurai (Maul)
A Queen who wasn't a Queen who was a Senator (Amidala)

Does anyone see the difference ? Not too much thought went into the Prequel overall story / characters. It was all pretty bland basic ***** that was not that interesting...

My question is what other character stereotypes do you think should have been put into the Prequel Story ? ? ?

Like...

A Mad Scientist (A creator of Clones) - Actor: Paul Giamatti

Can anyone help me out here to think of more compelling new characters and some actors to play them ? I'm trying to get new ideas and want to hear your opinion.

[Wesley Dodds]

The one thing these movies needed most was a Han Solo. A lovable badass type with a knack for clever one liners... Someone the audience can actually relate to, that can provide a little relief when the story gets a little too ridiculous.
Like Wolverine in the first two X-Men movies...

[SchumacherFan]

Originally Posted by Wesley Dodds

The one thing these movies needed most was a Han Solo. A lovable badass type with a knack for clever one liners... Someone the audience can actually relate to, that can provide a little relief when the story gets a little too ridiculous.
Like Wolverine in the first two X-Men movies...

interesting, any ideas on actor type ? ? ? Maybe Samuel L Jackson as normal civilian and get rid of Mace Windu ? He is the ultimate badass actor, imo... Probably why people liked Mace's character so much because of Sam Jackson behind the character.

[Wesley Dodds]

Fillion immediately comes to mind... But that's probably just because he's pretty much already played Han Solo in Firefly.

[DarkSovereignty]

might get flamed for this but maybe anakin could have been the reckless badass han solo type. Would have caused major friction with the council, definitely would have given him more personality. I mean we got a glimpse of this in the beginning of attack of the clones when him and obi won are chasing down jango fett. Why not expand on it.

[Blackman]

Plot wise I thought the prequels were fine

It was just Jar Jar and corny dialogue that made them worse for me, but I still thought I & III were good

[Kurosawa]

Originally Posted by Wesley Dodds

The one thing these movies needed most was a Han Solo. A lovable badass type with a knack for clever one liners... Someone the audience can actually relate to, that can provide a little relief when the story gets a little too ridiculous.
Like Wolverine in the first two X-Men movies...

I hate Wolverine with a passion but I do like Han and although I'm one of the few Prequel defenders around, I do see this point.

[Spider-Vader]

Originally Posted by DarkSovereignty

might get flamed for this but maybe anakin could have been the reckless badass han solo type. Would have caused major friction with the council, definitely would have given him more personality. I mean we got a glimpse of this in the beginning of attack of the clones when him and obi won are chasing down jango fett. Why not expand on it.

He's a reckless badass in the "Star Wars: The Clone Wars" show. He reminds me of Han in it.

[Nightmare]

I liked III the best, as an overall movie. Darth Maul was badass. I would of liked more of him and qui gon in the prequels.

[Sloth7d]

Originally Posted by DarkSovereignty

might get flamed for this but maybe anakin could have been the reckless badass han solo type. Would have caused major friction with the council, definitely would have given him more personality. I mean we got a glimpse of this in the beginning of attack of the clones when him and obi won are chasing down jango fett. Why not expand on it.

That wouldn't have been a bad idea. Then George really could have his cake and eat it too. This way Anakin could actually be a person Obi could be friends with instead of the plot just telling us they're close, Anakin can be rebellious without being annoying, and he can still start off as the hero.
Though I'm not sure if Hayden could pull that off personally.

[El_Citrus]

Aside from getting a better Anakin, I would have had him be much older in TPM, being around his age from AOTC so that it helps to really show the council's hesitancy to train him due to already having a preset moral compass from living as a slave.

I would have liked for Qui-Gon and Anakin to then develop a big mentor-apprentice relationship that would help further scar Anakin when Qui-Gon is killed and set the groundwork for his recklessness in AOTC and his turn to the darkside in ROTS. That could have been a powerful moment with Anakin helpless as he watches his father-figure murdered by Maul.

I'm not sure if I would like to have seen Maul in AOTC or not. It may have been interesting to watch Anakin kill Maul out of anger midway through and then only witness the unending cycle as Dooku steps in to take his place.

I've always wished that the prequels could have been done better because they had plenty of material to make a masterful second trilogy. My ideas may be no good, but I know that there are plenty of better ones out there than what Lucas came up with.

[ross2287]

Should this maybe me merged with the Star Wars thread we already have?

http://forums.superherohype.com/show...79333&page=308

[Fresh Prince]

I agree Anakin should of been the badass Han Solo type, he already disregard some rules in the films and was stubborn at times so would of worked.

As for Darth Maul he should of been in all 3 movies if you asked me. Have him get killed in the final movie, then Darth Sidious wanting a replacement.

[bullets]

Theere is a star wars thread somewhere around here. Prequels are a done deal but could of been better with minor changes.

[Sloth7d]

Originally Posted by Fresh Prince

I agree Anakin should of been the badass Han Solo type, he already disregard some rules in the films and was stubborn at times so would of worked.

As for Darth Maul he should of been in all 3 movies if you asked me. Have him get killed in the final movie, then Darth Sidious wanting a replacement.

It woul have been bad ass if he had a dramatic return in AotC revealing he had regenerative properties. The look on Obiwan's face would be priceless.

[bullets]

Instead of General Grievous they could of used that with Darth maul . He had the mechanical legs in the comic and by golly that worked.

[Bim]

Originally Posted by El_Citrus

Aside from getting a better Anakin, I would have had him be much older in TPM, being around his age from AOTC so that it helps to really show the council's hesitancy to train him due to already having a preset moral compass from living as a slave.

I would have liked for Qui-Gon and Anakin to then develop a big mentor-apprentice relationship that would help further scar Anakin when Qui-Gon is killed and set the groundwork for his recklessness in AOTC and his turn to the darkside in ROTS. That could have been a powerful moment with Anakin helpless as he watches his father-figure murdered by Maul.

As much as i love Qui-Gon, i would scratch him altogether from the PT (we havent heard of him on the OT and i just dont think he should have a prominent role at all) and just make Obi-Wan a newly knighted Jedi who comes across Anakin. Have Obi-Wan be a bit more of a rogue who pushes for a much older Anakin to be trained. Would have been better to have Anakin a teen already in episode I instead of showing him as a young boy, just my opinion.

[TheWrathOfGod]

I said it before, and I'll say it again. Replace Jar Jar with Ron Perlman, who would play a dishonored Mandalorian that quickly becomes friends with Obi-wan and Anakin. He would be a variation on the Han Solo character, but has psychological scars about some war (think Canderous Ordo from KOTOR). Anakin could murder him in Episode 3 for dramatic effect.

Also, they should have never shown the birth of Vader, rather just have Anakin die and Vader appear. Episode 3 ruins the spoiler of Empire Strikes Back.

Lose the CGI for practical effects and the prequels would have been much better.

[Aesop Rocks]

My re-write.

Greedo doesn't shoot first.

[Sloth7d]

Or at all

[Raiden]

I like the idea of Anakin having Han Solo personality, although I don't think Hayden would have been the perfect actor for it because he always seemed a bit wooden to me. I also think that Darth Maul should have been present in all three Prequel movies, because what they really lack was a good villain throughout the series, and Palpatine, like the Emperor, works better in the background than forefront. Anyway, those were but a few of many problems that the Prequel had.

[Fresh Prince]

They should of had someone esle play Anakin, who can actually act.

[Raiden]

Originally Posted by Fresh Prince

They should of had someone esle play Anakin, who can actually act.

I agree, although I think even good actors won't have been able to make those awful dialogues sound good.

[Firm]

Prequels

The characters that worked:
-R2D2
-C3PO
-Qui Gon Jin
-Obi One Kenobi (Especially in Episode III)
-Palpatin
-Mace Windu
-Yoda
-Not a lot of screenplay but Fisto
-Jango

And one thing that was spot on for me was the evolution of the clones, I was quite young when Episode II came out and I didn't realize that the Clones will become Star Troopers and when in Episode III you got all those different clones that started to look like Troopers I was like "Damn, I love how they did". The whole costume evolution was great.

The worst things in the new trilogy were: the characters weren't as well written as the ones in the OT.

And Anakin - Hayden was the worst choice ever, ruined Anakin completely.

[Fresh Prince]

Originally Posted by Raiden

I agree, although I think even good actors won't have been able to make those awful dialogues sound good.

True. Would of been kickass to see an Anakin/Darth Maul fight.