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Old 03-06-2010, 08:30 PM   #26
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Cannonball, Sentry, Air Walker, Sue Storm, Electro, Venom, Yellow Jacket, Wonder Man, Trauma.
How the hell is Venom anything lower than A-list? Unless its Gargan we're talking about.

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Contrary to popular fan belief, most non powered heroes who engage in similar activities would stand a chance at beating Batman hand to hand.
You mean like Shang-Chi? How about the Kingpin?

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You mean like Shang-Chi? How about the Kingpin?
He has the size and strength advantage and knows how to fight very well. So, yeah, he'd put up a pretty good fight against Batman.

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How the hell is Venom anything lower than A-list? Unless its Gargan we're talking about.
Heh, judging from your username, I can see where to blindness originates.

Venom is NOT an A-lister, a strong B at best.

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Old 03-11-2010, 01:13 AM   #30
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He has the size and strength advantage and knows how to fight very well. So, yeah, he'd put up a pretty good fight against Batman.
Shang Chi has a good chance of defeating him too. What about Daredevil?

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How is Daredevil B or C level? Furthermore how the hell could he beat Batman?

I mean the notion... Is retarded.

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Heh, judging from your username, I can see where to blindness originates.

Venom is NOT an A-lister, a strong B at best.
You can change my username to Captain Nipples and that still doesn't make Venom a B-lister. Exactly what do you go by?

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How are we defining each of these lists. Where I'm coming from Venom and DD are both A listers. Venom is a well known character who has had several of his own series and appeared in several crossovers...

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Yeah, he's A-List. He just sucks.

As far as Batman getting beat, yeah, he's not even the best fighter in his respective universe. There are at least six non powered people who should be able to kick his ass in a straight up fight. Richard Dragon, Shiva, Bronze Tiger, Cassie Cain, Drakkon, Connor Hawke (pre-Quiver), I might even throw Black Canary onto that list at this point.

From Marvel, Shang Chi, Iron Fist. Don't know if DD could take him. To tell you the truth they're probably about even.

Batman's problem is that he's knows a lot, but he's a master of none. As a martial artist, yeah he's up there, but there are plenty that are as good and in fact better.

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Without the equipment O.G. Question and Wayne would be interesting... although I'd pick Sage, personally.

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Yeah, he's A-List. He just sucks.

As far as Batman getting beat, yeah, he's not even the best fighter in his respective universe. There are at least six non powered people who should be able to kick his ass in a straight up fight. Richard Dragon, Shiva, Bronze Tiger, Cassie Cain, Drakkon, Connor Hawke (pre-Quiver), I might even throw Black Canary onto that list at this point.

From Marvel, Shang Chi, Iron Fist. Don't know if DD could take him. To tell you the truth they're probably about even.

Batman's problem is that he's knows a lot, but he's a master of none. As a martial artist, yeah he's up there, but there are plenty that are as good and in fact better.


Seriously?

BruceBat could and has beaten Bronze Tiger, Shiva (hell even Tim beat Shiva) Cassandra and many of the other bests of the DC world I have no doubt he could take Marvel's best too. He's more than just a master of martial arts as well because let's face it he's got tech to back him up and he's a genius and incredibly resourceful.

Even DickBat () could manage to take down most of what DC has to offer with the exceptions of Richard Dragon and Tiger maybe. And that would be without his tech.

As far as DD is concerned I don't see how he manages to do as well as he does...

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Seriously?

BruceBat could and has beaten Bronze Tiger, Shiva (hell even Tim beat Shiva) Cassandra and many of the other bests of the DC world I have no doubt he could take Marvel's best too. He's more than just a master of martial arts as well because let's face it he's got tech to back him up and he's a genius and incredibly resourceful.

Even DickBat () could manage to take down most of what DC has to offer with the exceptions of Richard Dragon and Tiger maybe. And that would be without his tech.

As far as DD is concerned I don't see how he manages to do as well as he does...


And THAT^ called something else retarded?

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Seriously?

BruceBat could and has beaten Bronze Tiger, Shiva (hell even Tim beat Shiva) Cassandra and many of the other bests of the DC world I have no doubt he could take Marvel's best too. He's more than just a master of martial arts as well because let's face it he's got tech to back him up and he's a genius and incredibly resourceful.

Even DickBat () could manage to take down most of what DC has to offer with the exceptions of Richard Dragon and Tiger maybe. And that would be without his tech.

As far as DD is concerned I don't see how he manages to do as well as he does...
What about a fight without tech, mano-a-mano? I'm thinking Shang Chi could take him out.

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There's no thinking with that, Shang Chi would own his ass.

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Own is a bit strong I think.

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Anything involving a Batman loss is too strong for you.

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When you look at the kind of things he's avoided and the kind of foes he's beaten you realize that he's a badass of the highest order.

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Looking at the abilities and feats of any guy with his own solid title would convince you that he's a badass of the highest order. The things I've seen Iron Fist & DD do have convinced me of such.

Shang Chi doesn't even have that and he's shown that he's First Class.

If you're reading an A Lister's own series and don't come away from it thinking they're badass, then somebody f_____ up.

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Look we all know that... for instance Wolverine is a badass. Read any comic published by Marvel in the last 10 years and I bet Wolverine is in there being a badass, but we also all know that Wolverine is no match for someone like... Lobo, or Superman, or The Sentry. So while Shang Chi is a badass and so are DD and Iron Fist.

I'm pretty sure Bruce could still take 'em.

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Yeah, YOU'RE sure.

I've yet to hear anyone else agree.

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Ok, next Q:

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