Sony Rebooting Spider-Man for 2012!!!

[Chris Wallace]

Originally Posted by Joker

Chris, you probably remember two posters name Mr Parker and Bakerboy. They took the complaining about organic webbing to a whole other level.

Slag, you must remember them, too. The days of "Man-Spider".

All too well. Right behind MST3KPIMP, they were among the first "Opinion-Nazis" I ever came across on these boards.

[©KAW]

"Opinion-Nazis" come on now, you don't see me labeling you "Raimi's Minions"...oh wait, yes I have.

[MikeFrost]

Originally Posted by venomvsspidey

forget the power rangers goblin, let's take inspiration from DB:E for teh new goblinz

I hate you. So much. For making me look and think of that abomination of a movie. I don't even liked DragonBall that much except for a nostalgia factor from my childhood but that movie screamed epic fail the moment it was announced... It is the godmother of **** adaptations.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Another reason why I didn't have a problem at all with organics is because, as Sam Raimi said, if he could make web-shooters, he should be working for Nasa because of how smart he'd be. So true.

It's antoher example of what works great in the comics doesn't always work great on film.

[The Joker]

Originally Posted by Spider-ManHero12

Another reason why I didn't have a problem at all with organics is because, as Sam Raimi said, if he could make web-shooters, he should be working for Nasa because of how smart he'd be. So true.

.....I don't get this. Just because Peter is smart enough to work for NASA doesn't mean he has to. What's he going to do, walk into their office and tell them he invented webshooters?

That is one thing we never really saw in Raimi's movies. Peter never really got to display his smarts much. The discussion with Octavius about the fusion reactor is as close as we got.

It's antoher example of what works great in the comics doesn't always work great on film.

Hang on a second, so you don't think he should be working for NASA in the comics?

[VenomVsSpidey]

Originally Posted by MikeFrost

I hate you. So much. For making me look and think of that abomination of a movie. I don't even liked DragonBall that much except for a nostalgia factor from my childhood but that movie screamed epic fail the moment it was announced... It is the godmother of **** adaptations.

[TheSlag]

While I have never had that BIG of an issue with the organics, never to the point of the Man-Spider clannies that used to run around this place (although I thoroughly enjoyed riling them or listening to their rants)... I am not a Fan of the Organics either.

1) It takes away a key aspect of Peter, his intelligence and innovative thinking.
2) It takes away from the "every man" feeling that Spider-Man had for me as a kid growing up reading his comics. I could imagine, with a set of webshooters, I could also swing like Spidey. And ALL without the nasty side effects of growing spinerettes in my wrists or whatever.

Add to the above that it basically makes him more of a freak, slits in wrists, etc... and HOW does he produce so much webbing??? A real spider invests much resources to spin a web, and does not waste it.

And yes, they could (and should of) showed Spidey running out of webbing, say after an exhaustive battle or something.. but I prefer the running out of webbing via the web cartiridges myself.

[Chris Wallace]

Originally Posted by ©KAW

"Opinion-Nazis" come on now, you don't see me labeling you "Raimi's Minions"...oh wait, yes I have.

An Opinion-Nazi is someone who pushes their opinion as fact, and/or is completely intolerant of any opposing point of view. And it is NOT a term that I use lightly, but rather when it truly applies.

[spider-neil]

there's a shocking lack of news. sony are going to waste more and more time and then when we hit 2011 they will rush everything. if they want the special effects to be half decent, I mean avatar quality then they should be spending a couple of years on the CG which pretty much means starting now.

[Ajendo]

Originally Posted by Oscorp

There is alot that I don't like about Raimi's films but organic webbing is one of those things he actually did very good in my opinion, so I'd like to keep it.

I think the whole organics thing is a minor factor when considering everything else that occured in Raimi's films. I would rather have the mechs though, because, the mechs are part of the character as initially intended and it's a statement of Peter's genius and by itself, it's a unique and one of a kind tool that, is ONLY associated with spider-man and nobody else.
However, I can understand the organics route taken and it works and is something that served as having the best of both as SM2 showed faults with his webbing abilities. But this is a reboot, a different approach and a different vision and interpretation of the 3 movies that came before it. I would like to see identifiable changes that don't compromise the characters even further just for the sake of being different. Raimi had orgs, ok this time we can have mechs.

I also pray that the powers that be don't literally take every concept USM has conjured up and throw it on screen. Hulk Goblin is a disaster of a concept. Honestly, people have snubbed SSM but that show by and large imo is the blueprint of how Webb's movies should go. A mix of 616 and USM that does not drastically compromise the source material to the point of despair.

[Ajendo]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

there's a shocking lack of news. sony are going to waste more and more time and then when we hit 2011 they will rush everything. if they want the special effects to be half decent, I mean avatar quality then they should be spending a couple of years on the CG which pretty much means starting now.

Just because we havn't heard much it doesn't mean the powers that be have their thumbs in their rear ends. The movie is in a state of preproduction, they don't have to be so forthcomming with news right now. Also, If I were Sony, I'd keep things on the down low right now too as, you have the likes of Iron Man 2, Cap and Thor kind of in the spot light right now with their tid bits. I'd wait for things to settle a bit and then start releasing some news, that'll have a lasting impact and generate a buzz, instead of potentially getting lost or overshadowed in all the haze of all the other stuff going on with other properties.

[Chris Wallace]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

there's a shocking lack of news. sony are going to waste more and more time and then when we hit 2011 they will rush everything. if they want the special effects to be half decent, I mean avatar quality then they should be spending a couple of years on the CG which pretty much means starting now.

Maybe, but not necessarily.

[TheSlag]

For all those that claim that Sony handcuffed Raimi on his vision of Spider-Man, I find it amazing that Sony went along with the organics and did not force Mechs on Sam.

I would of thought that the new/improved Web Shooter Toys they could of introduced after SM1 came out (if it had been with Mechs) would of sold like Hot Cakes.

I know they (Web Shooters) will always be assoicated with Spider-Man regardless of Mech or Organic in Reboot (and in SM1-3), and I think sales of the toy web shooters probably increased with the release of SM1... BUT.. I think the sales would of sky rocketed to the kids IF the Mechs had been used in the movies.

Amazing to me.. that Sony/Marvel.. allowed that. Food for thought to those that think Sony always handcuffed Sam. And I am not saying they never handcuffed Sam at all... just saying that this (Mechs) was a unique opportunity to "Suggest" to Sam to go that route.. and they did not.

Hopefully.. the Reboot.. we will get Mechs, and if it helps make Spider-Man movies more sucessful from a merchandising standpoint.. more power to them.. as that should mean more $$$ for the budget for future films, etc.

[chaseter]

Uhhh they marketed and sold tons of web shooter toys throughout the entire time SM1-SM3 was going on. Do you not watch tv

That was probably one of the most ridiculous things I have read on here. "Why didn't they go with mechs because that would sell more toys and make Raimi's movies better." Please excuse me for paraphrasing.

[TheSlag]

Originally Posted by chaseter

Uhhh they marketed and sold tons of web shooter toys throughout the entire time SM1-SM3 was going on. Do you not watch tv

That was probably one of the most ridiculous things I have read on here. "Why didn't they go with mechs because that would sell more toys and make Raimi's movies better." Please excuse me for paraphrasing.

Once again .. You NEED to learn to read and NOT take things out of context.

I stated in the post that they probably sold more web shooters with SM1-3, but I think (heck KNOW) they would of sold more IF mechs had been in the movies.

And as I have stated before (once again you need to read, as everyone seems to need to point out the obvious ALL the time to you), that Mechs brings other key aspects to Peter's character. So if they decide to go with Mechs just for increase merchandising rights, MORE POWER TO THEM, as it brings out key characteristics to Peter, as well as ensuring potentially more moeny (budget) for future movies.

[Chris Wallace]

Still a weak argument.
Besides, nobody but NOBODY is saying that he was handcuffed from day one-only for the third installment.

[chaseter]

I did read. I can read all of your little insults to people who liked Raimi's version and how disgusted you are with it and him. Web shooters are web shooters. A mech web shooter toy isn't going to make billions more than the web shooter toy that they have now. Why? Because they both do the exact same thing.

If you are fine with toy sales dicating how a movie is made, I am sure Transformers 1 and 2 are considered top of the line Oscar gold to you.


cough

[TheSlag]

Originally Posted by Chris Wallace

Still a weak argument.
Besides, nobody but NOBODY is saying that he was handcuffed from day one-only for the third installment.

Not an argument, jsut a statement. And I find it amazing that Sony did not handcuff Sam til the 3rd.

And if we get Mechs over Organics however, I am all for it.

[chaseter]

Originally Posted by TheSlag

Not an argument, jsut a statement. And I find it amazing that Sony did not handcuff Sam til the 3rd.

And if we get Mechs over Organics however, I am all for it.

I don't find it amazing. The first movie usually tests the water and if the second one raised the bar on the franchise, then studios get greedy to make the most amount of money. They step in because they think they know what is best. Same thing happened to X-Men.

[TheSlag]

Originally Posted by chaseter

I did read. I can read all of your little insults to people who liked Raimi's version and how disgusted you are with it and him. Web shooters are web shooters. A mech web shooter toy isn't going to make billions more than the web shooter toy that they have now. Why? Because they both do the exact same thing.

If you are fine with toy sales dicating how a movie is made, I am sure Transformers 1 and 2 are considered top of the line Oscar gold to you.


cough

You know *cough* "Chester" *cough*.. you're like a broken record. I have NOT insulted anyone for liking any aspect of Raimi's films. I have disagreed with their opinion on several things, but never insulted them for their like or dislikes of the Raimi's film.

And here you are trying to stir up troble by trying to claim that. The post you replied to had NOTHING to do with insults or likes/dislikes of Raimi's version.. but YOU try to stir up trouble regardless (trolling).

You take OFFENSE if Kaw or anybody states a dislike to ANYTHING in Raimi's films.. saying they Harp on it. Here's a clue Sherlock.. DO NOT read their posts then IF their opinions offend your "genteal" nature.

And have you heard of a little thing called advertising/promotion? Sheesh. IF the movie had promoted Mechs, they WOULD of sold "billions more" to quote you.

Now, exaggerations aside (which you're know for)... they would of sold MORE no doubt.

And AGAIN for the DESNE ones here (you).. I am not dictating HOW a movie should be made, AS I SAID, Mechs bring other key aspects to Peter's character (Read Boy Read), however the decision is made to use them.

And guess what, these movies are a "Business".. shocking I know.. but IF they make more money, we get more movies with bigger and better budgets...

A good thing "Martha"

[chaseter]

I'm a broken record!

If I am the pot, then you are the kettle. Scoot over.

[TheSlag]

Originally Posted by chaseter

I don't find it amazing. The first movie usually tests the water and if the second one raised the bar on the franchise, then studios get greedy to make the most amount of money. They step in because they think they know what is best. Same thing happened to X-Men.

Wow.. an actual relevant post from you.. less attempts at lame insults.. maybe there is hope for you after all.

True about testing the water, but by the same proposition, first movies can be crap shoots, and these movies in general (comic movies) are about merchandising vs. good movie (or at least have been in the past), and as such, I find it amazing that Sony/Marvel did NOT hedge their bet by insisting on Mechs for the merchandising rights.

I think Marvel had the merchandising rights though, so that probably explains more why Sony was not as concerned.

But for the reboot, hopefully they will take that into consideration (although I think Marvel/Disney) still has the merchandising rights from the reboot too.

[TheSlag]

Originally Posted by chaseter

I'm a broken record!

If I am the pot, then you are the kettle. Scoot over.

The saying is "the Pot calling the Kettle black".. get the analogy right at least.

[chaseter]

Originally Posted by TheSlag

The saying is "the Pot calling the Kettle black".. get the analogy right at least.

HAHAHAHA

The analogy is that one of the same is calling out the other. That means that if the Kettle called the Pot black, it would be the same exact thing.

[chaseter]

Originally Posted by TheSlag

Wow.. an actual relevant post from you.. less attempts at lame insults.. maybe there is hope for you after all.

This sentence is an oxymoron and has opened a black hole in the universe. Watch out.