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Old 01-18-2010, 04:12 PM   #1
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Some people are worried that the reboot's "grittier" angle might be because of the Dark Knight movie. So what if they Nolanized the Spider-Man universe?
How would they go about that? What would you accept? What would be going too far?
What If the Green Goblin was a psycho wearing a rubber mask?
Just for fun How would you Nolanize the Spider-Man universe.

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Old 01-18-2010, 04:18 PM   #2
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People have a misconceived notion of Nolan's Batman films. Nolan doesn't set out and go "hmm, how gritty and realistic can I make a movie?"

He only did that with Batman because he wanted to tell a good story, and not only that, but his movies AREN'T that realistic! He just grounds them in elements of realism to make them relateable. Nolan does what he thinks is best to tell a good story. He doesn't always make realistic movies. Prestige for example?

Spider-man should not be super dark, gritty, or realistic. He's not a character that would work that way. Now, what I would like the producers to take from Nolan is the attention to carefully crafted storytelling, and how he stays true to the spirit of the characters from the source material.

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Old 01-18-2010, 04:30 PM   #3
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Why do comic book films have to be Nolanized? Why not Spidermanized. Thats how it should be done.

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Old 01-18-2010, 04:44 PM   #5
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I thought it would be easy to tell, but I guess not. This was more like a joke thread, just a thread to be creative and fun.
People are worried that the Spideer-man movies will become too dark and gritty, affriad the studios are going to make it like Dark Knight because that movie sold a lot of tickets. I don't think they will make it like Dark Knight, I hope not anyway, because that goes against Spider-Man tone all together. Plus it goes against the tone set up in the Raimi movies, and that has a built in audience.
So i thought, maybe it would be fun to "Nolanize" (the stereotypical style of the film, whether its true or not) the Spider-Man movies.
You know, take the character and remove whatever is too unrealistic. For example Ras al Ghul: They took out the Lazarus Pit and changed it to a name that is passed down.
I just thought it would be fun to apply these same terms to Spider-Man, take the Green Goblin and remove the super powers, and the goblin glyder. making him a psycho who wears a rubber mask. Or take the Vulture and turn him from a guy who flys to something else.
Or take Venom, turn him from an alien costume to a guy who wears a similar Spider-Man costume (only black) who is too violent and agressive because Spider-Man doesn't go far enough.

Again, its just a fun thread based on peoples fears about the movie being turned into another Dark Knight.

How would you Nolanize Vulture? Venom? Goblin? Spider-Man?

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Old 01-18-2010, 05:00 PM   #6
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After being bitten by a genetically altered spider, Peter breaks into Oscorp & takes a very advanced battle suit that he repaints as his Spider-Man costume. Instead of webs this Spider-Man swings around with self retracting grappling hooks that are built into the suit.

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Old 01-18-2010, 05:41 PM   #8
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:17 PM   #10
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Oh just for funs? Okay then Peter gets bitten by a spider then finds his uncle dying on the streets. Afterwards he drops out of high school and goes to Japanand gets trained by Iron Fist. Then goes back to NYC and becomes a crime fighter.

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Old 01-18-2010, 06:21 PM   #11
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After witnessing the murder of his uncle, Pete vows to strike fear into the hearts of criminals. He uses the spider as a symbol against evil, and he uses his awesome scientific skills to engineer a suit in his aunt's cave, I mean basement. His suit is made of powerful velcro to crawl New York city's skyrises, and swings around the city with powerful silk-velcro-glue-like web.

Pete obtained all the technology to build his suit from his buddy Harry Osborn from his dad's Oscorp. As a cover, Pete tells Harry that he's working on a school science project.

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Old 01-18-2010, 07:29 PM   #13
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After being bitten by a genetically altered spider, Peter breaks into Oscorp & takes a very advanced battle suit that he repaints as his Spider-Man costume. Instead of webs this Spider-Man swings around with self retracting grappling hooks that are built into the suit.


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Starts up with Peter Parker dreaming about when he was bit by a radioactive spider and was on his death bed due to radiation poisoning for 9 months. When he wakes up, Rodrrick Kingsley introduces himself as the Jack O Lantern and is sitting with Peter in a high school detention room and offers him a place in the Sinister Six.

Kingsley has Peter climb up to the top of the Daily Bugle with an antique camera only to get the beat down by J.Johah Jameson. Peter says he seeks the means to fight injustice and take down Wilson Fisk a.k.a. the Kingpin. He is introduced to another man who looks like Ned Leeds named the Hobgoblin.Peter and Kingsley have a falling out and after 3 weeks,Peter returns back to high school where Aunt May had declared him dead. Peter also is reaquinted by a girl we've never heard of before.

After being equipped with a new camera by Joe Robertson,Peter enlists the aid of Captain George Stacy and takes the Kingpin down.Later we find that Kingsley was the real Hobgoblin and that Mysterio,a man in a three piece suit and a fish bowl on his head who used to work in Vegas doing card tricks,are planning to destroy New York. In a heated battle on a run away train,Peter lets Kingsley die.He explains that he wasn't able to save him because a human being wouldn't be able to shoot webs from his body and that a bite from a radioacive spider would most likely end in death.

At the end,Peter and Captain Stacy find evidence left at a crime scene by a man calling himself the Green Goblin.

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Old 01-18-2010, 07:34 PM   #14
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Peter Parker gets bitten by a radioactive spider and dies after a long painful bout with lymphoma during which he has hallucinations of being a spider-powered hero. MJ and Gwen are actually nurses that care for him, Doc Ock is his physician, and Norman Osborn is a crazy janitor.

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Why do comic book films have to be Nolanized? Why not Spidermanized. Thats how it should be done.
In fact that's how it has been done for a number of years. But the cheesing up didn't take long in proving itself flat and tiring. That's when Nolan got in and de-cheesed the genre with TDK. Now everyone is going after that vision.


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Old 01-18-2010, 11:59 PM   #17
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If it was Nolanized then Spider-Man wouldnt swing by webbing but fly a copter or drive a Spider-Tank.

Same with Green Goblin. The Goblinmolbile and not a glider.

I am really annoyed of these other studios and making there comic heros dark, gritter and realisitc because of Nolan's idea for Batman.


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Old 01-19-2010, 08:59 AM   #18
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Stop this, please.

A lot of you are going about this all wrong.

Nolanize does not mean The Dark Knight. Nolan, like Raimi, does research into the character's history. Where Raimi chose the original 100 issues of ASM, Nolan chose the graphic novel (Loeb/Sale) route for Batman.

The closest comparison for tone would be if Nolan adapted, Spider-Man:Reign.

A very different, darker, grittier take on Spider-Man's future.

Not my favorite Spider-Man story, but it does have its place as it draws a picture of an older Peter Parker living in a world without heroes, haunted by the memory of his dead wife MJ; whom he killed due to his radioactive blood. A fear mongering government creating a police state, and the return of the sinister six, now older and working for the city as bounty hunters.

Alternatively, Spider-Man Blue would be an even more direct comparison. As this was a work by Tim Sale and Jeph Loeb (Batman Year one/ Batman the long Halloween).

This story is however a bit lighter and puts a little bit of a more serious take on Spider-Man's first enemy encounters. Centering around Peter remembering Gwen Stacey and the love triangle between him, her, and MJ. As most Gwen Stacey stories tend to, the reader is led to believe that it will climax with the battle on the bridge; but an interesting twist is presented in the end instead. Along the way, some of Spider-Man's earliest rogues are presented.

Why it would occur to anyone that Nolan would make Spider-Man exactly like Batman just confounds me.

Unfortunately, it seems that this is the assumption that Sony is making. *sigh* I miss you Raimi

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I was saying spider-man needed to be grittier before the dark knight was made. I didn't mean 'make it like the dark knight' when I said it then, and I don't think Sony necessarily means it when they say they want to make it grittier now. Judging by Raimi's screen test with tobey maguire, he was
origionally going for a 'grittier' approach aswell. Plus, vanderbilt wrote SAW. The psycho in that basically operated like a comic book villain. It sounds like vanderbilts brought a different interpretation to Sony and they want to go with it. Judging by his style, he would have undoubtably attempted to make it 'grittier' than Raimis movies. He didn't need the dark knight to encourage him
to do that... he might have had this script idea for years.

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If Nolanizing the Spidey franchise doesn't work, they'll have to reboot it again, only then they'll Raimify it again, or it will be Lucasized, Spielbergized, Jacksonized, Goyerized, Burtonized....


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The Nolanification of superheros is going to become a trend.

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If Nolanizing the Spidey franchise doesn't work, they'll have to reboot it again, only then they'll Raimify it again, or it will be Lucasized, Spielbergized, Jacksonized, Goyerized, Burtonized....
Schumacher-ized.

Yes, Spidey will have neon webbing, [neon] nipples on his [neon] spandex and Robin (Robin will be brought in to try to capture/transfer some of the Batman & Robin audience) will be his whiney side-kick.
Ahnuld will come out of retirement to play [neon] Rhino (who will have neon horns) and will have many awful puns like "charge this to your [neon] credit card!" (BTW, Spidey will have his own Spidey-card) before charging at Spidey, like a big neon .... thing.

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Starts up with Peter Parker dreaming about when he was bit by a radioactive spider and was on his death bed due to radiation poisoning for 9 months. When he wakes up, Rodrrick Kingsley introduces himself as the Jack O Lantern and is sitting with Peter in a high school detention room and offers him a place in the Sinister Six.

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After being equipped with a new camera by Joe Robertson,Peter enlists the aid of Captain George Stacy and takes the Kingpin down.Later we find that Kingsley was the real Hobgoblin and that Mysterio,a man in a three piece suit and a fish bowl on his head who used to work in Vegas doing card tricks,are planning to destroy New York. In a heated battle on a run away train,Peter lets Kingsley die.He explains that he wasn't able to save him because a human being wouldn't be able to shoot webs from his body and that a bite from a radioacive spider would most likely end in death.

At the end,Peter and Captain Stacy find evidence left at a crime scene by a man calling himself the Green Goblin.
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HOLY S***....Look Im a pretty big batman fan....but Spider-man doesnt deserve to be "Dark" and "Gritty" the only reason why it worked with Batman was because

A. He's a dark character and gritty character. That's he roots of Batman...that's why Nolans Batman worked. Because he took what made batman "Batman" and added a element of seriousness to it.

For Spider-man....To make him work....I would took a serious take on Spider-man...but to make his "Dark" and "Gritty" is like having Captain America not wear the red,white and blue colors or having Captain America be anti-america. That's what makes each character unique

For Batman he is "The Dark Knight"

For Spider-man he is "The Amazing Spider-Man"

For Captain America he is "The Red, White and Blue Avenger"

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