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View Poll Results: How did you like Iron Man 2?
10 - Amazingly Awesome! 99 20.37%
9 105 21.60%
8 137 28.19%
7 80 16.46%
6 25 5.14%
5 - Not horrible 18 3.70%
4 8 1.65%
3 7 1.44%
2 2 0.41%
1 - Geesh, this movie sucks! 5 1.03%
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Old 04-29-2010, 09:42 AM   #101
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Old 04-29-2010, 10:42 AM   #102
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Just saw the movie today. Awesomely done!

A little bit below my expectation but still pretty good and enjoyable.

I'd give it a 7

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One thing i will say that dissapointed me, this might be a little nitpicky, but we didn't get a super cool credits sequence, no cool animation/cgi just normal white words over black screen credits. Oh well, the post credits scene was good though.

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Lol. I knew that more people would say the same thing.
I dunno if it's also on purpose that the letters ED appear on War Machine's armor. I know it's far fectched still ...would be cool [

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Finally saw it and if a geekgasm is expected, then I regret to disappoint. The film was just okay with a few moments worthy for several geekgasms, but overall, it left me slightly cold, confused, and with a thought, “Well, okay, that was cool,” instead of one consisting of boundless praises and better-than-the-original claims. The thing is, it never passed the standards that its predecessor set. I hate to focus on its flaws in this wide a context and I ought to judge it on its own merits, but like it or not, that other film is as much a part of this film as Robert Downey Jr. is the very personification of the word, “awesome.” And this is a sequel, after all, so of course, there will be much referencing back and forth. :/

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Compared to the first film, this one felt a little less cohesive; more bloated. In the middle, S.H.I.E.L.D. stepped in and then entered the new plot line about finding a new power source. After Obidiah’s “Tony Stark was able to build this IN A CAVE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!!”, it felt stale and done-before. But I did like the bit with his dad telling—or rather, implying to—the adult Tony via home videos how much he valued, nay, loved him. That got a slight tear out of me. But if I get another "new POWA SOURCEZ!!11!" plot again...

Ad-libbing is dandy and all, but I needed a Tylenol after stepping out the theater from following to little avail the verbal swordfighting, often one-sided, between Tony and Pepper. I'll wait for the DVD with the English subtitles before I can make heads or tails of all the noise. My showing had Thai subtitles, which only served to further confuse me as my brain engaged in bilingual deciphering, with much fail. Not the fault of the film, just me.

Most of the actors brought a lot to the table. Mickey Rourke as Whiplash was positively enjoyable to watch and I loved his origins story that was succinctly told in the opening credits. His acting wasn't immediately apparent, but looking beyond the exterior through his eyes, I saw much. The tears that came with his father’s passing very nearly prompted my own.The Monaco Clash was especially telling; I could well detect this barely restrained fury that drove Whiplash as he wrecked the lane left and right to get to Tony. And yet, his fury was not without company; there was an aura of patience about him, like he wanted to make Tony pay for his father’s sins but also teach him. Teach him how things don’t just fall on your lap without so much as a reason. All Mickey showed me with his performance was that I absolutely need to watch The Wrestler ASAFP, especially if the hype is to be believed.

Then came along Sam Rockwell as Justin Hammer, a free but misguided spirit who only wanted to be the best. You can never go wrong with Sam Rockwell. The versatility of this dude can, by now, pretty much go without saying. Justin Hammer and Whiplash made quite the fabulous pair. No doubt, they’re my favorite villain pairing since, well, ever. Ra’s Al Ghul and Scarecrow don’t count as they never, you know, met and interacted. Rarely do we get that these days. Sneaky Ivan; he never gave two ****s about his cockatoo in the first place, just wanted to make Hammer squirm a bit for not getting the right bird. ‘Tis a shame we didn’t get to see more of them together, but perhaps that was for the best; any more and this film would’ve fallen apart from over-bloatedness. To conclude on Hammer, however: ultimately, he was just damn pitiful, like the bespeckled and bepimpled computer nerd wanting to conquer the world from his mom’s basement. A puppet to a bigger puppet. But played by the admirable Sam Rockwell whose awesomeness possibly rivals that of RDJ.

Robert Downey Jr. was fantastic, as usual. Honestly, his fantasticness has become a tad predictable and as such, boring. He needs to get a new schtick fast and that is, paradoxically, not being Robert Downey Jr. Totally goes against “be true to thineself,” I suppose, but whatever. Still awesome. Scarlett Johansson was surprisingly great. I usually can't stand her when she does interviews. But here, she was more than bearable and her kick-ass scenes had me swooning. I dug her fighting style, which felt ripped from the comic pages. Took the thunder away from Gwyneth Paltrow, unfortunately, not that it was much of one in the first place. She was hilarious in the first film when pitted against RDJ’s near-unrelenting wit, but here, their banter felt tried-hard and tired, thanks partly to Gwyneth’s slight *****iness in her retorts. Jon Favreau had more of a role as Happy, Tony’s all-purpose man, this time around. Didn’t mind him much. Samuel L. Jackson was, of course, buggering awesome, as much as I despise the Marvel movies incorporating things from the Ultimates universe. From where I stand, the Ultimates universe is nothing more than a wishy-washy one where what-if dreams go to be realized. But that’s just me, and I digress. Back to the actor: this Nick Fury was still buggering awesome, despite my reservations. Sam can make most any character work just because he’s Samuel motherbuggering Johnson.

Have I forgotten anyone? Hopefully not. (Oh, and there was Don Cheadle. Meh, he was fine; no complaints I can think of. I liked the partnering-up.)

The Avengers references were much more insistent than the blink-and-miss variety, much like with Captain America’s shield from IM. Speaking of which, they’ve now made that thing absolutely impossible to ignore, unless you’ve taken a toilet break, no matter how 90’s that is. While I think that they should’ve taken the winks and nudges down several notches, I can’t deny that I am excited outta mah mind, especially after the end-credits scene, for which I had to trash my old pants. The coming years can come here right the frak now, to hell with patience. THAT'S how you make a tease.

The action scenes were far better this time. I got serious chills when Whiplash simply walked up the lane and went all Supermany with the chest-revealing, then even more serious chills when he started cutting *****es. Sadly, no other scene since topped that one, in terms of chill-inducement. IM2’s final battle was marginally better than IM’s, though, production-wise, but I still feel that the latter had much more of an emotional oomph. Hero versus feeling-less robots just doesn’t make for much fulfilling entertainment. But I did love that moment with the IM-masked kid almost being blown to fleshy bits; that was some intense stuff.

All in all, IM2 was a decent effort, never mind that it could’ve been a much better one. There was major upgrades in places, though some of them came at the sacrifice of other stuff from IM, be it good or bad. It felt a little bloated, convoluted, and meandering at times. There were too many in-the-know references and too much emphasis placed on them that will surely fly over the scratched heads of the majority of the GA like whoosh. But the actors brought their A-game. The “writing” was pretty much like that of IM and it’ll take a couple of viewings to get them all. The action was much improved, a surprise to no-one, considering the resounding success of the first film, money- and critical acclaim-wise. Can we expect the same for IM2? Don’t know and don’t much care.


4/5 (or 8/10).

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I actually enjoyed it more than IM1. It was a film driven by plot rather than RDJ's charisma. I did not feel it was complicated and in regards to "overplotting", I can't see where that criticism has come from. I found it easy enough to follow everything and I don't think any characters where shortchanged. I really enjoyed it. Another criticism I've heard is about apparent "dialogue laden lulls". I found these "lulls" really interesting because they were always informative and served to further character growth of various players. Maybe I only found these interaction interesting because I've been reading about them on paper for a very long time. But I can't help but feel the critics complaining about "dialogue laden lulls" wanted a mindless Summer popcorn film. All in all I thought it was great, as far as Superhero movies go it's a 4/5.

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I do think that, with anything, there's always a limit. If you got too much of a good thing, it gets old. So from I'm getting is that, many people love witty/intelligent dialog as long as it's not overdone or hide a weak narrative.

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But I can't help but feel the critics complaining about "dialogue laden lulls" wanted a mindless Summer popcorn film. All in all I thought it was great, as far as Superhero movies go it's a 4/5.
The same critics that tore Transformers 2 a new one for being nothing but a dumb summer movie?

I hope I like it as much as you did by the way.

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From what I gather it still is a mindless summer popcorn flick. Just cause it has heavy dialogue doesn't make it intelligent. And that's the point the negative reviews are getting at really. How are you going to be a mindless popcorn flick, then have long dialogue laden lulls, that don't ultimately amount to anything intelligent.

The first film while being pure fun, had at least an interesting intelligent subtext about technology and its use for destruction or creation.
My post in the critics thread more or less addresses this.

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I hope I like it as much as you did by the way.
I was moreso referencing the British tabloids, which actually gave TF2 good (ish) ratings.

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Oh, okay. I try not to listen to tabloids.

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Me too, but when action films like IM2 come out you can usually bank on the tabloids to give glowing reviews. That's why it was a bit of a shock to see such negativity towards the film. You think to yourself "if you can't impress the rags there's something seriously wrong".

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Me too, but when action films like IM2 come out you can usually bank on the tabloids to give glowing reviews. That's why it was a bit of a shock to see such negativity towards the film. You think to yourself "if you can't impress the rags there's something seriously wrong".
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Saw the flick. Decent enough, not quite as good as the first.

Samuel L Jackson is absolutely dire as Nick Fury. Sorry folks, but that has to be said.

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God, that was SO bad! I'm not the biggest fan of the first movie (7.5/10) but IM2 is on the same level as SPidey 3, Wolverine or Fantastic Four! They must hire a real screenwriter for IM3, god! Rourke has got like 3 scenes, ScarJo is hot but even Favreau has got more screentime... But Rockwell is awesome, the biggest plus of this ****.

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Wasn't there a scene missing in the film that was in the trailers?

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In the trailers is shows Stark in a plane with Potts, and she throws his helmet out of the plane but I never saw that scene when watching the film today. I was a bit disappointed, and I personally felt it would have moved us into that scene better than it going straight into the "action" so to speak.


However I loved the film myself, I'd like to see it again. I think it's one of those films where there are a lot of things going on, and it could take a couple of viewing to take everything in. I think they gave great screen time to each characters as best they could in a couple of hours.

Some films introduce characters and these character disappear for the rest of the film only to show up at the end, and you've forgotten they existed.

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God, it's hard to find a consensus from the reviews I've read from fans. Naturally, fanboys will be hyperbolic (it's in their nature) in their 'takes' whether if it's good or bad.

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No offense but it's still the fact that it's a good sequel but one that should have been better.

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What bothers me is if I go see this movie and really like it, and rate it say 9/10, I will be ripped for being a fanboy and a homer because of my screen name. Keep in mind I was Tony Stark when this site used to be Spider-man hype.

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A must see for comic fans

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Ok, first of all, what the heck? There are few movies that have been treated as unfairly as IM2. IMO, it was a very solid film and definately better than IM. More specifically:

Acting: Top notch. Everybody brought their A-game, including Scarlet, if only because the role was written especially for her acting skills. Rourke played the part subtly, as a calculating person that was just biding his time patiently to have his revenge. Rockwell was great as the loser version of Stark and he did a good job at making Hammer a wimpy and annoying character (in a good way). Cheadle is way better than Howard, although, I must admit that Howard had more chemistry with Downey Jr. SLJ was cool, his usual self but a bit more light-hearted, which was a fairly good approach to the character. Didn't want to see Windu again.
Paltrow once again prevents me from wanting to shoot her cold, proving that she is a perfect fit for Pepper Pots and had, of course, great chemistry with Downey Jr. What can be said about that guy? He gives an even better performance, as he is a much more complicated character, in a role that requires more of him. And he delivers, big time.

Action: Great, better in concept than IM, all of the battle scenes inventive and different (and better executed, too), but them being short prevent the action from reaching its true potential. In no way did I find it anti-climactic, though.

CGI: Top-notch, they did a very good job.

Music: Better than IM, still not memorable enough.

Humor: Since it's a big part of the franchise, it deserves a special mention. It follows the formula of IM and it never fails to deliver. Downey Jr is especially good (as expected). Rockwell, mmmmmmnot so much, as he comes out more as the annoying prick than a rue comedic character. And then we get to the much-debated...

Plot/ Screenplay: What the heck? Where was the "Avengers Begins" subplot-heavy IM2? Apart from the character of Natasha (Scarlet) eating a bit of screentime, everything was connected to the main plot, the themes of which were legacy and Stark being poisoned by the Palladium. Yes, there are more references to the Avengers, but nothing that distracts. I'm too bored to use spoiler tags, so I won't mention any particular scene as an example, but 2 out of 3 Fury's scenes were truly relevant to the plot. All the while gracefully setting up a broader world. People, IMO it was done VERY WELL. 1-2 scenes could've been better or missing, but other than that? Jesus, what a harsh reception of the movie.

Other: Happy Hogan being in it too much? Wow, really? So, he's no more a cameo, but a C-list role. Big deal. As if that's not his status in the comics. He was fairly funny and di not distract at all.
Scarlet's irrelevant/inconsequential battle. No it wasn't! It served a very important purpose in the climax. Sure, her character was the most prominent Avengers setup, but still, she did something to help forward the plot at one point and actually help the hero in the final battle. Finally, a franchise where women are part of the solution and people complain?
The drones not posing a real threat, because they are not people in suits. Huh? Those mofos wreaked a lot of havoc in the IM2 version I saw. And they kept coming back!
IM not being in it much. True. But it was clearly the writers' intention to make a film about Tony trying to find himself and his place in this broader world. It was an introspective film about him maturing and the script worked. Personally, I wasn't really put off by lack of action, as I was rewarded with great character moments and well fleshed-out relationships.
No real threats to IM after the Monaco scene. Also true. But, once again, the film was trying to focus on Stark rediscovering himself. So, no problem for me at all.

All in all, the movie was great. IM is not my favorite hero and when I saw IM yesterday (in preparation for IM2) I saw many many flaws which were absent in the sequel. Sure, IM was a more balanced movie overall, but so was BB in comparison to TDK (sorry for that, but I think it's valid). So pacing was a bit off, big deal, it's worth it if it means true character build-up. It's better than IM in every possible way and it truly is the TDK of this particular franchise. The creative team never lost sight, not at one point.

Go see it, lowered expectations or not. It's what it was supposed to be.

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I really enjoyed Iron Man, but unfortunately, not as much as the first one which I saw 3 times in the cinema. I doubt I'll watch this a second time anytime soon.

RDJ was great as Stark and I loved his relationship with Pepper, bringing back the positive things like this from the first film was a plus.

I liked the stories plot. People trying to steal the Iron Man suit or take it was the right way to go.

The CGI was fantastic and the soundtrack was jammin!
Rourke was a villain I dug a lot and Blackwidow kicked so much ass!

I guess the problem with this film was the pacing. It felt like it was all over the place.
There were nice comedic moments, just like the first, but now I just felt like some of the comedy was forced such as the drunk fight, which I didn't mind until the music hit. Justin Hammer also felt like another joke. I can't believe this guy runs a company.

There was more action in this, but it wasn't spread out. Some action 30mins or so in and then some action at the end. I felt like Iron Man could of helped some people or done something like that during the middle. We hear that Iron Man has helped so much, but we see nothing.

Rhodes as War Machine.....Hmmm what do I know about Rhodes from the last film and this? He's in the army...That's pretty much it. War Machine suit was awesome, but I didn't care for the man in it....Also how did Rhodes even know how to use the suit? I remember Tony having problems with it at first, but Rhodes just uses it like it's easy as ****.


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There is a reason why Howard was kicked. Well, for one I don't think he's a good actor... Let me say this...just because someone seems good in a movie, doesn't mean it didn't take GREAT editors and lots of film to make it that way. A good editor can make anyone seem like an OK actor, that's their job. And a director can spend as much time as need, because of a contract, to get what they want from an Actor. My guess is that Jon Faverau was tired of trying to get what he wanted from Howard, and just gave up on him for the sequel. Maybe if we saw all the film that wasn't used, we would have more of an idea of who's a good actor and who's not. Howard always seems like the same character no matter what role he plays.

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Also, Howard had a $$$ issue with Marvel, since was the highest paid actor in the first film. And supposedly, he's just kinda hard to work with.

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