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Old 05-07-2010, 03:44 PM   #26
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I think he does understand. He must know about discrimination and be sensitive to it. He has to be, he has a mentally disabled child, and they get picked on a lot in schools.
This is true, sadly. Though that doesn't mean he's sensitive to all forms of discrimination.

Well, i agree with you about Labour being a shadow of its former self. They can't be trusted to run the country at all.

As for Cameron, maybe your right but I just can't bring myself to trust him. All of my natural instincts tell me that there's something shifty about him

I'll grant you that the Tories seem to have more sense than the other parties when it comes to economics. So perhaps balance of Lib Dem/Tory will work out well. It appears to be what we're going to be stuck with so I certainly hope it will

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I think Cameron is a decent bloke who is trying to change things that have been associated with the Tories for decades. It will be a very hard job, especially convincing his own party members.
Well that's the other problem I have. Even if Cameron really is as tolerant and openminded as he claims there's still all of the small minded, prejudiced, racist homophobic old men in his party. Even if Cameron is a good guy, they're still a very serious problem

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Old 05-07-2010, 11:37 PM   #27
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I listened to Clegg about his disappointment with the results, but I have to say that in today's day and age, it's nice to see someone who isn't a sore loser in elections.

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I listened to Clegg about his disappointment with the results, but I have to say that in today's day and age, it's nice to see someone who isn't a sore loser in elections.

To the BNP: "Get out and stay out!"

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I honestly can't believe so many people voted for Gordon Brown. What the **** is wrong with people? He has ruined this country and they want him in for another term!?!?

Seriously, if i find out someone voted for him i don't think i will be able to contain my rage.
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We went through the same thing over here in 2004, man. And we got 4 more years of downslide.
Exactly Nivek.

This whole thing in the UK is very interesting to watch indeed.

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To be fair I found first term George W. Bush to be far more tolerable than second term George W. Bush.

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Old 05-08-2010, 02:01 AM   #31
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Yea well it ain't interesting for us.

I will honestly go mad at someone if i find out they voted Labour/Gordon Brown. There is absolutely no reason to vote for him. He contributed heavily to our country being in loads of debt. Labour's softly softly stance on crime and prisons has made being a criminal easy. Labour let any mother ****er into the country, the immigration system is a complete joke. Unemployement is at a record high, and benefits/welfare is handed out to anyone even if they clearly don't want to work a day in their lives. I mean ****, even ****ing immigrants get benefits/welfare and council houses for free, whereas hard working British people struggle to pay bills, taxes and to put food on the table. Which is unacceptable.

Basically, the whole country is ****ed because of Labour. There is literally zero reason why any logical thinking person would vote for them.

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Yea well it ain't interesting for us.

I will honestly go mad at someone if i find out they voted Labour/Gordon Brown. There is absolutely no reason to vote for him. He contributed heavily to our country being in loads of debt. Labour's softly softly stance on crime and prisons has made being a criminal easy. Labour let any mother ****er into the country, the immigration system is a complete joke. Unemployement is at a record high, and benefits/welfare is handed out to anyone even if they clearly don't want to work a day in their lives. I mean ****, even ****ing immigrants get benefits/welfare and council houses for free, whereas hard working British people struggle to pay bills, taxes and to put food on the table. Which is unacceptable.

Basically, the whole country is ****ed because of Labour. There is literally zero reason why any logical thinking person would vote for them.
Wow, Do we sound like this when we talk US politics? Just replace the word "Labour" with the word "Republican/Democrat" and it sounds just like stuff we say.

I guess things Are tough all over.

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They get video games in prison?
When my uncle was inside, he had curtains, xbox, rugs on his cell floor, tv, dvd and a full bed spread, he had all his teeth done and he come out with more money than when he went in with.lol

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Yea well it ain't interesting for us.

I will honestly go mad at someone if i find out they voted Labour/Gordon Brown. There is absolutely no reason to vote for him. He contributed heavily to our country being in loads of debt. Labour's softly softly stance on crime and prisons has made being a criminal easy. Labour let any mother ****er into the country, the immigration system is a complete joke. Unemployement is at a record high, and benefits/welfare is handed out to anyone even if they clearly don't want to work a day in their lives. I mean ****, even ****ing immigrants get benefits/welfare and council houses for free, whereas hard working British people struggle to pay bills, taxes and to put food on the table. Which is unacceptable.

Basically, the whole country is ****ed because of Labour. There is literally zero reason why any logical thinking person would vote for them.
lol. Every prime minister becomes the most hated prime minister after a while. People voted for Brown because they thought the others would be even worse.

There was no viable candidate this year. It's like a really good tennis match where you think it's a shame for either side to lose, only the opposite.

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Yea! That's what i ****ing mean!

Labour wants to wrap lags in cotton wool and treat them nicely... and they wonder why crime is so high and people don't give a **** about going to prison?

The Conservatives will change all that. You change the prison system, you make prison a horrible, horrible place to be... you watch the crime rate instantly fall.
I agree that prisoners get it to easy but even if prison was a worst place I doubt the crime rate would drop.

Prison being horrible like the death penalty isn't much of a deterrent. Career criminals don't care.

They should of built more prisons while they ahd the money instead of blowing it on nanny state big goverment that thinks it can change everything instead of people getting off their arse and doing it themselves.

I don't think the conservatives are any different though people will hate them again after a couple years in office like the do Labour now. They benefit from being the other party. Its easy to stand around and point out the goverments mistakes but when your not in power but far more difficult when your in the driving seat.

A few of the front bench tories might of changed but the old guard from the Thatcher/Major era remain.

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To the BNP: "Get out and stay out!"

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That was awesome they didn't win a single seat and they lost seats on local councils.

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But that's it Chamber, a lot of the lags ain't career criminals. They are little pricks who think it is cool to go to prison. Going to prison is a badge of honour to these younger generations. Trust me, i see it all the time.

People i know come out of prison and they all brag about it n that. I simple say. "Look mate, you got CAUGHT, which means you a mug, it ain't nothing to show off about".

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But that's it Chamber, a lot of the lags ain't career criminals. They are little pricks who think it is cool to go to prison. Going to prison is a badge of honour to these younger generations. Trust me, i see it all the time.

People i know come out of prison and they all brag about it n that. I simple say. "Look mate, you got CAUGHT, which means you a mug, it ain't nothing to show off about".
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Wow good spot... can't believe i missed that. I actually changed my sig the other day too, but it came back to this one for some reason.

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That was awesome they didn't win a single seat and they lost seats on local councils.
Good riddance to bad rubbish. The BNP, or the British Nazi Party as I like to call them are the worst kind of garbage. Racist, homophobic sexist bigot scumbags who really don't deserve to share the same country as the rest of us. I say if they don't like the state of Britain they should **** off because no one wants those evil minded little BNP bigots here

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To be fair I found first term George W. Bush to be far more tolerable than second term George W. Bush.
And even second-term GWB was more tolerable than any version of John Kerry.

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Good riddance to bad rubbish. The BNP, or the British Nazi Party as I like to call them are the worst kind of garbage. Racist, homophobic sexist bigot scumbags who really don't deserve to share the same country as the rest of us. I say if they don't like the state of Britain they should **** off because no one wants those evil minded little BNP bigots here
Did you see this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSDllDi-hm4

Yeah, cos that's someone fit for office.

Nick Griffin called it a result of "a campaign of hatred and dehumanization against [the BNP]" lol irony. I cannot believe they have the audacity to pretend that they're the victims in all this.

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A senior BNP member has said people in the party are holocaust deniers and Nazi sympathizers yet when they are in public they dress up as soldiers and show pictures of Winton Churchill.

They are so full of turd its unbelievable. How can you say you love Britain and be a neo-nazi in private.

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Did you see this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSDllDi-hm4

Yeah, cos that's someone fit for office.

Nick Griffin called it a result of "a campaign of hatred and dehumanization against [the BNP]" lol irony. I cannot believe they have the audacity to pretend that they're the victims in all this.
Sadly it's a fact that scumbags like the BNP love to pretend that they are the victims. Noting surprises me anymore when it comes to the bigoted vermin that make up the BNP

As for Nick Griffin the only thing that idiot is ever going to win is a pie eating contest. An election? Fat chance, if you will pardon the pun.

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Oh, they are far worse than that. Here is some of the BNP's "Greatest hits"

Claiming that AIDS is a good thing as it targets "Gays and blacks"

Claiming that rape is okay because all women enjoy it really

Claiming that Hitler was a great man

One of their supporters was also convicted of nail bombing gay clubs.

And as you say, they are guilty of Holocaust denial, a crime which carries a possible prison sentence here in the UK as it is rightly considered an act of hate speech.

The BNP are bigoted neo-nazi's. They make me ashamed to be British

Luckily the majority of the British public seem to feel the same way and are treating Griffin and his Nazi scumbags with the hatred and contempt they deserve.

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And as you say, they are guilty of Holocaust denial, a crime which carries a possible prison sentence here in the UK as it is rightly considered an act of hate speech.
I just have to completely disagree with the concept of hate speech. If someone wants to be an anti-Semetic Holocaust denying douchebag, it's their right to do so and their right to voice their opinion.

Just like we have the right to ignore it and ridicule them. And how they have the right to obtain a black eye or two.

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I just have to completely disagree with the concept of hate speech. If someone wants to be an anti-Semetic Holocaust denying douchebag, it's their right to do so and their right to voice their opinion.

Just like we have the right to ignore it and ridicule them. And how they have the right to obtain a black eye or two.
I may not agree with the part of your post about the BNP having a right to their opinion but I certainly agree with the part in bold.

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I may not agree with the part of your post about the BNP having a right to their opinion but I certainly agree with the part in bold.
I think that in order to have a truly free society, one should be able to think whatever they want, whether it be right or wrong, based on facts or flat out ignorant, or whatever political ideology (conservative, liberal, socialist, anarchist, Communist, Nazi, whatever).

The British National Party has the right to be ignorant bigots. It's their right as human beings to do so. Ignorant human beings that is.

However, people should also develop the common sense that what they say might piss someone off, particularly if they're hurtful comments and must own up to the consequences of said actions.

So if someone got punched in the face for being a racist, anti-Semitic, homophobe, I'm not going to lose any sleep.

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Their is no law against the BNP voicing their opinon in the UK although there is a law against inciting racial hatred which countries like Finland and Australia also have.

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I think that in order to have a truly free society, one should be able to think whatever they want, whether it be right or wrong, based on facts or flat out ignorant, or whatever political ideology (conservative, liberal, socialist, anarchist, Communist, Nazi, whatever).

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I agree with free speech... but not if it is promoting hate and actual hate crimes. You can't just ridicule those sorts of people, you need to stop them.

Like the Muslim extremists. They come to our country because life here is fairer and better than in their country... then they take advantage of the rights our country gives them ie. free speech, to spread hate about our soldiers and promote the hating and killing of other religions.

You can't just let people like that get on with it.

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I agree with free speech... but not if it is promoting hate and actual hate crimes. You can't just ridicule those sorts of people, you need to stop them.

Like the Muslim extremists. They come to our country because life here is fairer and better than in their country... then they take advantage of the rights our country gives them ie. free speech, to spread hate about our soldiers and promote the hating and killing of other religions.

You can't just let people like that get on with it.
Welcome to the "multiculturalism" vs "melting pot" paradigm.

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Brown screw ups is indirectly screwing up any future government in the UK. You guys get the privilege of bailing out some losers, who probably won't repay your bailout, or repay in worthless money. All the while bleeding a ton of red.

And the Assclown Brown will probably return, since I don't think the coalition government will last long. So enjoy it while it lasts.

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