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Old 11-17-2014, 11:54 AM   #1
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While Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 3 is set to begin with Ant Man next Year, lets discuss how Kevin Feige and Marvel Studios should do Phase 4 and Phase 5.


For Phase 4, films that we are expecting Marvel to do are;

1. Iron Man 4
2. Daredevil
3.Incredible Hulk 2
4. Luke Cage and Iron Fist
5.Possible Spider-Man film
6. Iron Man 5
7.Captain America 4
8.Untiled Avengers 4 film

the villains for the 4th Avengers film are to be the Masters of Evil and since Feige and the rest of the studio have been doing many characters and film plots with such heavily creative changes, they should try being more creative on the team's line up of villains here in the MCU and the leader of the MCU's Masters of Evil should be the Mandarin (the real Mandarin of the Ten Rings who has not debuted yet) and as the leader of the Masters of Evil in MCU Phase 4, the Mandarin will debut in Iron Man 4 and with Iron Man 4 serving as Phase 4's first MCU film, from there after his first battle with Iron Man, the Mandarin should then start making arrangements on having a team of remarkable people for his own cause and in the next wave of films, the Mandarin is to recruit a villain or two in each of them before the 4th Avengers and the Fourth Avengers should also feature the line up of heroes for the MCU's New Avengers and for the Mandarin's Masters of Evil in the MCU, it wouldn't hurt for the name of the team of villains to be refered to in the Marvel Cinematic Universe as the Masters of Order, the Masters of Shadows or the Masters of Vengeance which is kind of like Christopher Nolan having the League of Assassins refered to as the League of Shadows. Mostly it's because "Evil" in the name of the supervillain team wouldn't seem flawless enough for the MCU films that it's too much of a cartoon sounding name plus the motive and goals needs to be something more than just taking over the world as well as everyother villains' intentions in the movies go these days.





And why should the real Mandarin be the leader of the Masters of Evil in the Marvel Cinematic Universe as well as the main villain in Avengers 4? Well other than how big a setback that the twist along with how wrong Feige and his people tried doing the character in a different way and other than the fact that the actual version of the villain is still out there as the real leader of the Ten Rings, it's because Marvel Studios did not have Iron Man 4 mapped out for Phase 3 which leads onto making us wait longer for the movie and the real proper version of the character to happen and because of how powerful the Mandarin is with all different kinds powers stored within each of his rings individually which makes him a much more specific leader of the Masters of Evil than Baron Zemo, the Mandarin is very much more of an Avengers level supervillain than just a hero's standalone villain plus making him the MCU leader of the Masters of Evil in Phase 4 should give the Studio more time to explore more on the villain in the cinematic films and this is the best line up of villains that the MCU has to offer:

Mandarin (Leader)

Kingpin

Scorpion

Mangler

Abomination

Moonstone

Crossbones or Grim Reaper

and now for Phase 5 films to expect


1.Dr.Stange Sequel
2.Ghost Rider Reboot
3.Incredible Hulk 3
4.Iron Man 6
5.Possible Spider-Man sequel
6.Untitled Avengers 5 film

The 5th phase is expected to be the final phase of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and for this phase, the primary villain is to be the Hood, a villain who got his powers from Dormammu and became the leader of a supervillain organization/team named after himself now here is a list of the villains we want for the MCU line up of the Hood



The Hood (Leader)

Deathwatch

Blackout

Ufoes

Shocker

Shockwave

Crusader

Mr. Fear

Living Laser

Grey Gargoyle

Surely we cannot expect all the villains from the comics to join up with the hood in the Marvel Cinematic Universe so this amount of villains will have to do


in the mean time please do not expect any of the phase 3 films to tease any Skrulls because the infamous Secret Invasion storyline cannot work in the films without the Fantastic Four since their field commander Super Skrull possesses the ability of all four of them and it would involve a huge amount of heroes and villains for the Skrulls to tries disguising themselves as and it's to overwhelming and too chaotic for the films to handle because afterall, there are other things and characters that we want Marvel to bring out that are more earthbound so unless a Phase 6 happens, don't bother with Secret Invasion.

So in the mean time, keep your eyes open for more updates on upcoming movies in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

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Old 11-18-2014, 12:09 AM   #2
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I think there will be a black panther 2 since the actor signed up for 5 films.
I wonder if marvel will do any marvel supermen type films or have them them fit in a team film or show up in other solo films or the live action tv shows like blue marvel,hyperion,miracleman and the sentry.

Maybe silver surfer and gladiator but for these two to show up in the mcu will be hard because of fox.
It seems that marvel is afraid to push their more powerful superheros and this non-sense and stereotype that marvel has less powerful superheros then dc have to stop.
I want these superheros to be shown in live action,tv or movies,or both.


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Old 11-18-2014, 12:16 AM   #3
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Default Re: Speculations on Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 4 and Phase 5

If phase 4 has a similar structure to Phases 1-3 I could see the following structure:

Phase 4
Iron Man 4 (demon in a bottle/true mandarin)
Incredible Hulk sequel (The Leader finally makes a return)
Doctor Strange 2
Black Panther 2
Captain America 4 (with or without Bucky Cap, vs return of Red Skull or Zemo)
The Avengers vs The Masters (Mandarin, Red Skull, Leader, Enchantress/Executioner)

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Old 11-18-2014, 03:23 AM   #4
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G'day,

Surely if they are introducing Dr Strange we will see supernatural stories? Blade and Ghost Rider come to mind I'm pretty sure Marvel Studio now have the rights.

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Old 11-18-2014, 05:56 AM   #5
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Surely if they are introducing Dr Strange we will see supernatural stories? Blade and Ghost Rider come to mind I'm pretty sure Marvel Studio now have the rights.

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Hope we get to see a decent Ghost Rider film in phase 4. Blade will be due a reboot as well.

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Old 11-18-2014, 06:18 AM   #6
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I chose Hercules (and it looks like I'm the only one), if Thor is 'retired' for a while, it would be useful to have another god-like figue kicking about on Earth in exile. I also want to see a different god-like race, to show that Asgardians aren't the only lot. Plus, I suspect a good Herc film in the MCU could be fun.

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Old 11-18-2014, 08:14 AM   #7
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G'day,

We might see the Olympians sooner rather then later. My guess is the "Dottie" character in Agent of SHIELD played by Bridgette Regan will turn out to be Venus/ Aphrodite.

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I chose Hercules (and it looks like I'm the only one), if Thor is 'retired' for a while, it would be useful to have another god-like figue kicking about on Earth in exile. I also want to see a different god-like race, to show that Asgardians aren't the only lot. Plus, I suspect a good Herc film in the MCU could be fun.

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Old 11-18-2014, 09:53 AM   #8
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Phase 4
Inhumans 2
Incredible Hulk 2
Doctor Strange 2
Black Panther 2
Captain Marvel 2
Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Namor
New Avengers
Blade vs GhostRider


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Old 11-18-2014, 12:13 PM   #9
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I chose Hercules (and it looks like I'm the only one), if Thor is 'retired' for a while, it would be useful to have another god-like figue kicking about on Earth in exile. I also want to see a different god-like race, to show that Asgardians aren't the only lot. Plus, I suspect a good Herc film in the MCU could be fun.
I second this motion. I too would love to see Herc in the MCU. My suspicion is they will want to wait a bit before they introduce him especially after the fact that we just had two box office films in the same year featuring the character. By Phase IV enough time may have elapsed to start introducing the Olympians.

However, I'm pretty sure I will lose some interest if Thor is completely absent after Phase III. I guess I'm one of the few that love those films the most. I'm excited that Feige is promising a universe shaking event in Thor: Ragnarok. If that's truly his last bow then I hope Thor goes out with a bang but if they actually succeed with elevating his character in the eyes of fans on the level of Cap after Winter Soldier I can't imagine they will just discard him. Plus seeing Herc without Thor would be a bitter pill for this fan to swallow.

Beyond that I really hope we finally get to see Namor and some more Hulk adventures. The Inhumans offer some intriguing possibilities. An actually great Daredevil film with the rebooted characters from the Netflix show would be awesome too.

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Old 11-18-2014, 10:34 PM   #10
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Default Re: Speculations on Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 4 and Phase 5

Phase 4

Guaranteed
Avengers 4
Guardians 3
Captain America 4

Very likely
Iron Man 4
Black Panther 2
Thor 4

Possible
Inhumans 2
Ant-Man 2
Doctor Strange 2
Captain Marvel 2

Outside chance
Namor
Hulk 2
Nova/Nova Corps
Runaways
Thunderbolts
Midnight Sons

Phase 5 will 100% certain have another Avengers story, other than that I won't speculate until we know what phase 4 will actually be.

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Old 11-19-2014, 05:19 AM   #11
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There's already a thread for Phase IV

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=488439

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Old 11-19-2014, 07:47 PM   #12
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I strongly doubt we're going to see the "real" Mandarin.

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As a black man so proud of Black panther

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What I like to see:
She-Hulk
Namor
Tigra
Blade
Nova
Runaways
Spider-Woman (Assuming Marvel Studios have the rights)
Torch (Jim Hammond)

These characters need to be in the MCU Some can probably better appear on TV or Netflix.

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Old 11-25-2014, 10:29 PM   #15
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I want an Annihilation-Conquest-War of Kings hybrid to take place during Phase 4, obviously some players will change but keep the overall idea.

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I just want solo films for Namor and Spider-Woman or She-Hulk.

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I'm all for the "real" Mandarin being used as a villain on something like Agents of SHIELD, season 3. Like, maybe after Hydra is finally whooped for good, the team could turn their attention to the Ten Rings terrorist organization...and then defeat The Mandarin themselves.

But no...as far as the movie-going public is concerned, The Mandarin has already been defeated.

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