Avengers villains rumored to be the Skrulls

[topdog1]

Originally Posted by louiebling$

Unless they go the ultimates route and it turns out some of the Nazi are Skrulls

This would not only kill Avengers but might cripple Marvel as a studio. Seriously, if they make anything live action like they did with the animated Ultimate Avengers DVD, then we're all in real trouble. Seeing aliens behind the Nazi threat is the dumbest idea of all-time. Marvel got to be king by basing their characters in reality and shaping reality around them. That's why you base them in New York and not "Metropolis" and why you can't re-write history.

[Pendragon]

I wouldn't mind them laying down some groundwork for a future Skrull invasion but further down the road in maybe Avengers 3. I really want so see more of an earthbound threat that brings them together. Perhaps starting out in a fight against the Hulk but then teaming up with him for a larger threat. There is years of history to draw from why jump in with the most recent storyline right out of the gate.

[FaT_tONle]

Yeah that's how I'd do it. If the Skrulls remain much like Mandarin has in the IM movies, it could work. Maybe they initially create political anarchy through surreptitious methods, use HYDRA and Mandarin himself as their own pawns. Speaking of Nazi Skrulls, maybe they want to recreate a master race using human DNA in a hybrid Skrull/Kree/human soup. Then invade in Avengers 3-4. It actually works quite nicely as it gives them a motive in their war.

[Figs]

Originally Posted by louiebling$

Wtf? Did he really just say Loki would be a terrible Fanboy decision???

Loki is a Fantastic villan... He is Othello's Iago but a Sorceror/Strategist/Manipulator... loki is a Genuis and would be the perfect villan for the job... one man outwitting some of the strongests hero's in the world.. how does that sound terrible?

Really?! I can only assume this post was in regards to mine since it was posted right after. I never said **** about Loki being a "terrible fanboy decision" so if you were responding to my post I don't know how you misread it.

[louiebling$]

Originally Posted by Figs

Really?! I can only assume this post was in regards to mine since it was posted right after. I never said **** about Loki being a "terrible fanboy decision" so if you were responding to my post I don't know how you misread it.

No no no I was replying to thorstone's post... I was posting via mobile and was at work so when I made that post... I hadn't seen yours yet... sorry bout the confusion

[roach]

Originally Posted by topdog1

This would not only kill Avengers but might cripple Marvel as a studio. Seriously, if they make anything live action like they did with the animated Ultimate Avengers DVD, then we're all in real trouble. Seeing aliens behind the Nazi threat is the dumbest idea of all-time. Marvel got to be king by basing their characters in reality and shaping reality around them. That's why you base them in New York and not "Metropolis" and why you can't re-write history.

http://www.cinematical.com/2009/07/3...ou-just-enough

read the interview...its not WW2...its Marvel's WW2. Putting the Red Skull in the Nazi hierachy is rewritting history
How are aliens going to be less real than Norse thunder gods,Hulks and supersoldiers.

[Shivsguy616]

Originally Posted by topdog1

This would not only kill Avengers but might cripple Marvel as a studio. Seriously, if they make anything live action like they did with the animated Ultimate Avengers DVD, then we're all in real trouble. Seeing aliens behind the Nazi threat is the dumbest idea of all-time. Marvel got to be king by basing their characters in reality and shaping reality around them. That's why you base them in New York and not "Metropolis" and why you can't re-write history.

Didn't Captain America punch Hitler?? Isn't that re-writing history? I agree, though, that they shouldn't.

[roach]

Originally Posted by Shivsguy616

Didn't Captain America punch Hitler?? Isn't that re-writing history? I agree, though, that they shouldn't.

the whole concept of Captain America is rewritting history

[Parker Wayne]

I love that he calls it Marvel's WW2.

I still don't like the idea of aliens behind WWII though. I'm not against it, but I have doubts about it being done well. I think the Red Skull, Hitler, Amin Zola, and whoever else is good enough.

[roach]

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

I love that he calls it Marvel's WW2.

I still don't like the idea of aliens behind WWII though. I'm not against it, but I have doubts about it being done well. I think the Red Skull, Hitler, Amin Zola, and whoever else is good enough.

well thats what it is.

I dont like aliens being behind WW2 either...we all know it was insane aardvarks that started WW2

[Figs]

Originally Posted by louiebling$

No no no I was replying to thorstone's post... I was posting via mobile and was at work so when I made that post... I hadn't seen yours yet... sorry bout the confusion

No problem. I was just totally surprised since I never said anything about Loki sucking.

[Parker Wayne]

I'm actually fine with Aliens in the Avengers, but not Captain America at all. I'd rather have the Skrulls first appear in the Avengers.

[marcvader]

I definitely don't want them to be part of the plot in Caps movie but they can be alluded to in Caps movie then the big reveal in Avengers possibly having thousands of sleepers here since the 40's giving them plenty of time to infiltrate and learn about us.

[Son of Coul]

After doing some research it sounds more like they're fortunately going with the Kree/Skrull War story of Avengers than the Ultimates, which is also not completely terrible to draw from. Considering Feige has stated it's "Marvel's WWII" and Quesada said that thing about Captain America tying into The Avengers perfectly, AND the fact that Whedon is rewriting Captain America I think it's safe to say there'll be some Skrulls involved, as much as I'm turned off by the Ultimate universe (though I like that they went w/ Ultimate Fury, because as cool as 616 Fury is, it just doesn't really work given the time period).

Supposedly it'll be more discreet and not a full on invasion, so if they play it more Invasion of the Body Snatchers than Independence Day people can buy into it, methinks. It's not like Indiana Jones where they come out of nowhere, aliens and cosmic beings have been around forever in the Marvel Universe. You gotta introduce that element into the movies sometime. You can't just have the psuedo-science based semi-realistic characters in the MCU. Imagine having just X-Men, Iron Man, Hulk, Spider-Man and Cap without Thor, Dr. Strange, Skrulls, Loki, Namor, Ghost Rider, Iron Fist, etc.

[thorstone]

The problem is you have to get into space ships and it gets kind of Star Wars-ish.

I just don't imagine a great battle in the climax of the film with the Skrulls.

[roach]

right because only Star Wars has space ships....look to have Loki as the villain would be redundant

the Avengers arent called in because of a shadowy organization that shield should be able to handle...the Avengers get called in because the world is going to hell in a handbag and they are the only ones who can stop it.....my only issue is I want it to be a big invasion like V or ID4....would be kool to see Thor bring one of those massive motherships down

[NinjaCarm]

I think the idea of the Skrulls as the villains is a wonderfull idea for a few reasons.

A) It plays very into the concepts of aliens, conspiracies of lizard men (reptilians) running a New World Order that have been heard of, etc.

B) The concept of an alien invasion is universal and it makes it somewhat of a sure sell - given I'm very curious still on how well the general audience will accept upcoming themes like this and especially Thor, although my inner Marvel fan could care less about everyone else and I do want to see all of this.

C) It is reminisicnt of course of the Ultimates, which I love.

I hope this all works out, I hope Chris Evans knocks Captain America out of the park, Thor is done really well, and the Avengers kicks all of our eye balls out out sockets with awesome action and character chemistry.

Too bad we couldn't get Spider-Man into the swing of things, I really hope Sony impresses everyone with the reboot. Here's hoping.

[louiebling$]

Originally Posted by roach

right because only Star Wars has space ships....look to have Loki as the villain would be redundant

the Avengers arent called in because of a shadowy organization that shield should be able to handle...the Avengers get called in because the world is going to hell in a handbag and they are the only ones who can stop it.....my only issue is I want it to be a big invasion like V or ID4....would be kool to see Thor bring one of those massive motherships down

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[roach]

yeah thats how I'd do it....alien monther ships raining death and destruction on the earth...cities wiped out...militaries ineffective....suicide appears to be the only answer...rivers run red with blood...Cap gets his gang together and they forge the Avengers and take the fight to the aliens. Cap and Hulk fighting the alien infantry and ground troops while Thor and Iron Man fight in the skies.....Thor summons a massive thunder storm to knock down the NY mothership.
Around the world other superheroes take inspiration from Cap
Captain Britain and his team of british heroes take down the London monther ship, Namor takes one over South America, Black Panther takes down one over Africa.....

[Cyclonus]

Great news if this is true! I was hoping they would use the Skrulls in the Avengers. A threat no one hero can handle, and alien invasion by the Skrulls would be perfect to bring this team together. Don't like the idea of them taking control of the Hulk, they should just have one shapeshift into him and frame him for commiting crime or damage he didn't do, and let it be a mystery of the Avengers trying to find out is Bruce Banner doing this or not. I would love to see huge alien war ships coming to earth. This makes more sense than just having Loki controll the Hulk and the Avengers fight him. For Nick Fury to be putting a team together he and Shield must know something is up or have been tracking alien activity threatning earth. Heck maybe we could even have Super Skrull show up also and fight the Avengers. If the story is written correctly, having Ironman, Hulk, Thor, Captain American and whoever else teaming up to stop a Global threat will be great. Plus the storyline of Hulk being controlled by Loki and fighting the Avengers is getting played out.

[Aztec]

Originally Posted by NinjaCarm

C) It is reminisicnt of course of the Ultimates, which I love.

Getting together to stop the Hulk and fighting a secret Skrull invasion was pretty awesome in The Ultimates. I think it would work well here.

[thorstone]

Originally Posted by roach

right because only Star Wars has space ships....look to have Loki as the villain would be redundant

the Avengers arent called in because of a shadowy organization that shield should be able to handle...the Avengers get called in because the world is going to hell in a handbag and they are the only ones who can stop it.....my only issue is I want it to be a big invasion like V or ID4....would be kool to see Thor bring one of those massive motherships down

Okay, it'll be like Indiana Jones rather than Star Wars.
I took a dump on Loki on the first page-- he is a terrible villain.

The last thing I want is an invasion-- the Skrull aren't supposed to be about armies by day; their story is about infiltration.

[roach]

which is why they are infiltrating instead of a big invasion....my only issue with an infiltrating invasion is how do you have the Hulk and Thor fight against aliens who are infiltrating the government....

aliens in Indy4 didnt bother me...theories about alien races helping early man have been a part of stories since a very long time....I dont understand how people can take the mystic side of archeology in the first three movies and then feel that aliens had no place

How is Loki a terrible villain????

[Spider-Vader]

I like the idea of the Skrull/Kree war on-screen but it should wait until Avengers 3.

I think Loki controlling Hulk or even Kang, would be a good start for the series.

[roach]

Originally Posted by Spider-Vader

I like the idea of the Skrull/Kree war on-screen but it should wait until Avengers 3.

I think Loki controlling Hulk or even Kang, would be a good start for the series.

As much as I love to keep things the same as the comics I think it will get real redundant if we get Loki as the villain in Thor then Avengers then maybe Thor 2 and Thor 3.....I like the idea of the Skrulls because its big and if you are putting the Avengers together to face a threat the threat should be big. The Avengers dont fight to save NY or America...they fight to save the world or the universe. The Avengers shouldnt fight a villain that they can defeat solo.
Avengers: Skrull Infiltration
Avengers 2: Ultron or Kang
Avengers 3: Korvac