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Old 05-10-2009, 08:09 AM   #1
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I want to know what is really bothering you about the film if anything at all.

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the freakin robo suits, that's what's bothering me. it's like they're trying to turn G.I Joe into transformers

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The only thing that really bothers me is the look of Cobra Commander. He just looks plain bad...not like the ruler of Cobra. That's my ONLY complaint...if they gave him a hood, i'd be totally happy with the film.

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The only thing that really bothers me is the look of Cobra Commander. He just looks plain bad...not like the ruler of Cobra. That's my ONLY complaint...if they gave him a hood, i'd be totally happy with the film.
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How about because it looks like ****.

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Here are some of my problems with the movie just from trailers alone:

1) Robo-suit: I don't care if Sommer thought they should be futuristic or something; robo-suit is an awful idea because they not only took away the uniqueness of each Joe member, by making them all look pretty much the same. It also trivialize their individual talents because all of them turn into gravity-defying circus acrobats who can dodge missiles on a whim. That scene where both Duke and Ripcord hopping around like jack rabbits and neatly dodged the missiles look ridiculous.

2) Cobra Commander: I don't care if this is an origin of CC or not; the appearance of him inside that jellyfish mask is terrible and rumor of him brainwashing his legion takes away his omnious presence from the cartoon and other media. I know I'll be extremely disappointed in this incarnation of CC.

3) Destro (sans mask): Nuff said.

4) Sommer: From his Mummy and Van Helsing movies, I've never had the impression that he's a good filmmaker. Despite Michael Bay's faults, Bay is eon ahead of Sommer in terms of delivering the goods in his movies. And Bay's Transformers will trump all over Sommer's GI Joe this summer.

5) Script: Everything I heard about this movie so far, there isn't anything I really like. And judging from Sommer's track record, this script will probably be as weak as his other movies.

Honorable mention: Snake Eye's "mouth", Storm Shadow's trench coat, Baroness' goggles.

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Here are some of my problems with the movie just from trailers alone:

1) Robo-suit: I don't care if Sommer thought they should be futuristic or something; robo-suit is an awful idea because they not only took away the uniqueness of each Joe member, by making them all look pretty much the same. It also trivialize their individual talents because all of them turn into gravity-defying circus acrobats who can dodge missiles on a whim. That scene where both Duke and Ripcord hopping around like jack rabbits and neatly dodged the missiles look ridiculous.

2) Cobra Commander: I don't care if this is an origin of CC or not; the appearance of him inside that jellyfish mask is terrible and rumor of him brainwashing his legion takes away his omnious presence from the cartoon and other media. I know I'll be extremely disappointed in this incarnation of CC.

3) Destro (sans mask): Nuff said.

4) Sommer: From his Mummy and Van Helsing movies, I've never had the impression that he's a good filmmaker. Despite Michael Bay's faults, Bay is eon ahead of Sommer in terms of delivering the goods in his movies. And Bay's Transformers will trump all over Sommer's GI Joe this summer.

5) Script: Everything I heard about this movie so far, there isn't anything I really like. And judging from Sommer's track record, this script will probably be as weak as his other movies.

Honorable mention: Snake Eye's "mouth", Storm Shadow's trench coat, Baroness' goggles.
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Here are some of my problems with the movie just from trailers alone:

1) Robo-suit: I don't care if Sommer thought they should be futuristic or something; robo-suit is an awful idea because they not only took away the uniqueness of each Joe member, by making them all look pretty much the same. It also trivialize their individual talents because all of them turn into gravity-defying circus acrobats who can dodge missiles on a whim. That scene where both Duke and Ripcord hopping around like jack rabbits and neatly dodged the missiles look ridiculous.

2) Cobra Commander: I don't care if this is an origin of CC or not; the appearance of him inside that jellyfish mask is terrible and rumor of him brainwashing his legion takes away his omnious presence from the cartoon and other media. I know I'll be extremely disappointed in this incarnation of CC.

3) Destro (sans mask): Nuff said.

4) Sommer: From his Mummy and Van Helsing movies, I've never had the impression that he's a good filmmaker. Despite Michael Bay's faults, Bay is eon ahead of Sommer in terms of delivering the goods in his movies. And Bay's Transformers will trump all over Sommer's GI Joe this summer.

5) Script: Everything I heard about this movie so far, there isn't anything I really like. And judging from Sommer's track record, this script will probably be as weak as his other movies.

Honorable mention: Snake Eye's "mouth", Storm Shadow's trench coat, Baroness' goggles.
that pretty much covers it.

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Here are some of my problems with the movie just from trailers alone:

1) Robo-suit: I don't care if Sommer thought they should be futuristic or something; robo-suit is an awful idea because they not only took away the uniqueness of each Joe member, by making them all look pretty much the same. It also trivialize their individual talents because all of them turn into gravity-defying circus acrobats who can dodge missiles on a whim. That scene where both Duke and Ripcord hopping around like jack rabbits and neatly dodged the missiles look ridiculous.

2) Cobra Commander: I don't care if this is an origin of CC or not; the appearance of him inside that jellyfish mask is terrible and rumor of him brainwashing his legion takes away his omnious presence from the cartoon and other media. I know I'll be extremely disappointed in this incarnation of CC.

3) Destro (sans mask): Nuff said.

4) Sommer: From his Mummy and Van Helsing movies, I've never had the impression that he's a good filmmaker. Despite Michael Bay's faults, Bay is eon ahead of Sommer in terms of delivering the goods in his movies. And Bay's Transformers will trump all over Sommer's GI Joe this summer.

5) Script: Everything I heard about this movie so far, there isn't anything I really like. And judging from Sommer's track record, this script will probably be as weak as his other movies.

Honorable mention: Snake Eye's "mouth", Storm Shadow's trench coat, Baroness' goggles.


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Yeah, that pretty much hits the nail on the head.

I can't believe that I actually had hope for this movie when it was first announced. I remember when they debuted that first pic of Snake Eyes and I got all excited.

How far my hopes have fallen since then. I was never even that big of a GI Joe fan, but I thought, if handled right, it could make a really great movie. But damn... everything... I mean absolutely EVERYTHING about this movie just looks horrible.

Is there anything about this movie other than Snake Eyes that reminds anyone of the cartoon or the comic book? Seriously? I mean, if they took out the Snake Eyes clips from the trailer and didn't show the title at the end, would you even recognize it as a GI Joe movie? I doubt it.

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Robert Knepper should have been Cobra Commander. Vin Diesel should have been Destro, Angelina Jolie should have been the Baroness, and both John Cena and Mark Wahlberg should have been Flint and Duke.

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Robert Knepper should have been Cobra Commander. Vin Diesel should have been Destro, Angelina Jolie should have been the Baroness, and both John Cena and Mark Wahlberg should have been Flint and Duke.
The sad part is the horrible movie in your post probably would have been better than what we're getting.

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The sad part is the horrible movie in your post probably would have been better than what we're getting.
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Here are some of my problems with the movie just from trailers alone:

1) Robo-suit: I don't care if Sommer thought they should be futuristic or something; robo-suit is an awful idea because they not only took away the uniqueness of each Joe member, by making them all look pretty much the same. It also trivialize their individual talents because all of them turn into gravity-defying circus acrobats who can dodge missiles on a whim. That scene where both Duke and Ripcord hopping around like jack rabbits and neatly dodged the missiles look ridiculous.

2) Cobra Commander: I don't care if this is an origin of CC or not; the appearance of him inside that jellyfish mask is terrible and rumor of him brainwashing his legion takes away his omnious presence from the cartoon and other media. I know I'll be extremely disappointed in this incarnation of CC.

3) Destro (sans mask): Nuff said.

4) Sommer: From his Mummy and Van Helsing movies, I've never had the impression that he's a good filmmaker. Despite Michael Bay's faults, Bay is eon ahead of Sommer in terms of delivering the goods in his movies. And Bay's Transformers will trump all over Sommer's GI Joe this summer.

5) Script: Everything I heard about this movie so far, there isn't anything I really like. And judging from Sommer's track record, this script will probably be as weak as his other movies.

Honorable mention: Snake Eye's "mouth", Storm Shadow's trench coat, Baroness' goggles.
Pretty much sums it up.

It's pretty obvious that people behind films like this and Transformers are interested moreso in collecting a fat check than making a great film. There's no way in hell the people behind this film can believe their making a great movie.--they'd have to be dense as all hell to think their doing a great job.


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May as well open this can of worms. What does a "great" GI JOE film look like?

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So true.
But it would still be a terrible movie right? At least with the cast we have, it's easier to lower your expectations of bad to the point where you might be (emphasis on might) surprised at how bad it may not be (of course still terribly bad).

And the thought of Present Day Angelina Jolie as Baroness is enough to make me nauseous. Wanted was bad enough.

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-I don't like what I've heard about most of the bad guys. Cobra Commander sounds terrible, Destro seems kind of halfassed, and they didn't even try to make Zartan halfway entertaining.

-The black suits are stupid but i'm hoping they'll ultimately be a nonissue in the way that the x-men's uniforms became a nonissue.

Other than some small fanboysih things(like wishing shipwreck, flint, and lady jaye were in it), I dont' have any other major issues. Looks pretty cool to me.

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One word... accelerator suits.

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One word... accelerator suits.
technically that's 2 words, but ya. i agree. i was looking forward to this movie until they showed them jumping around in those suits in the trailer.

"They accelerate you."

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh, amazing

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May as well open this can of worms. What does a "great" GI JOE film look like?
A combination of Indiana Jones (action and daring do, foreign locales, "us versus them", "against the odds feel") and The Incredibles (dynamic action, 70s style hidden bases, etc.). It should have a large scope and epic feel. Imagine the opening to the animated GI Joe movie in live action. Simply stunning.

You know, the biggest problem people have with this film and Transformers is that the bar was obviously set so low from the start. It's as if they intentionally are setting out to make a mediocre film. Especially considering that everyone knows that a "fun and entertaining" action flick doesn't have to equate to a low brow movie.

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A combination of Indiana Jones (action and daring do, foreign locales, "us versus them", "against the odds feel") and The Incredibles (dynamic action, 70s style hidden bases, etc.). It should have a large scope and epic feel. Imagine the opening to the animated GI Joe movie in live action. Simply stunning.
That's pretty vague, actually. Can you be more specific?

So you want:

Dynamic action and "derring do" (which this film clearly has, or does it also need to be cartoony action, since you mentioned THE INCREDIBLES?)
Foreign locales (Which this movie has)
"Us VS Them" villains (which this film clearly has)
Hidden bases (which this movie has, in both The Pit, Cobra's base, and Destro's facility)
Large scope (Check, what with the globetrotting, the hidden bases, the massive battles, etc)
Epic feel (Well, yeah, this feels pretty epic thus far)

I'm iffy on exactly why you think this approach to the concept equals "low brow". And I notice you didn't mention characterization elements, themes, or an exploration of the concept of the military and terrorism when talking about what makes a great GI JOE film.

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Here are some of my problems with the movie just from trailers alone:

1) Robo-suit: I don't care if Sommer thought they should be futuristic or something; robo-suit is an awful idea because they not only took away the uniqueness of each Joe member, by making them all look pretty much the same. It also trivialize their individual talents because all of them turn into gravity-defying circus acrobats who can dodge missiles on a whim. That scene where both Duke and Ripcord hopping around like jack rabbits and neatly dodged the missiles look ridiculous.

2) Cobra Commander: I don't care if this is an origin of CC or not; the appearance of him inside that jellyfish mask is terrible and rumor of him brainwashing his legion takes away his omnious presence from the cartoon and other media. I know I'll be extremely disappointed in this incarnation of CC.

3) Destro (sans mask): Nuff said.

4) Sommer: From his Mummy and Van Helsing movies, I've never had the impression that he's a good filmmaker. Despite Michael Bay's faults, Bay is eon ahead of Sommer in terms of delivering the goods in his movies. And Bay's Transformers will trump all over Sommer's GI Joe this summer.

5) Script: Everything I heard about this movie so far, there isn't anything I really like. And judging from Sommer's track record, this script will probably be as weak as his other movies.

Honorable mention: Snake Eye's "mouth", Storm Shadow's trench coat, Baroness' goggles.
Spot on.

Also, that kid playing Cobra Commander seems too much of a p***y to be playing him.

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That's pretty vague, actually. Can you be more specific?

So you want:

Dynamic action and "derring do" (which this film clearly has, or does it also need to be cartoony action, since you mentioned THE INCREDIBLES?)
Foreign locales (Which this movie has)
"Us VS Them" villains (which this film clearly has)
Hidden bases (which this movie has, in both The Pit, Cobra's base, and Destro's facility)
Large scope (Check, what with the globetrotting, the hidden bases, the massive battles, etc)
Epic feel (Well, yeah, this feels pretty epic thus far)

I'm iffy on exactly why you think this approach to the concept equals "low brow". And I notice you didn't mention characterization elements, themes, or an exploration of the concept of the military and terrorism when talking about what makes a great GI JOE film.
This movie's goal is to be a "fun" actioner in the vein of Transformers, hence the term low brow. The movie can still be a great action adventure fantasy film without being low brow.

Your over thinking GI Joe. They're an elite U.S. military team, albeit a little eccentric, of specialists. Their talents makes them right for the job of taking on a terrorist team of specialist, Cobra. They don't have any special powers which makes their exploits all the more incredible. It's the very same with Indiana Jones; average American joe (school teacher), who fights the forces of evil with his wits, fists and whip.

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The Delta 6 Suits don't bother me.... they remind me more of concepts that show up in Japanease Anime movies..... like the movie Spriggan, where a specially made 'hard suit' resembles the concepts in this movie, also the movie MD Giest has a hard suit, though less techy, Bubblgum Crisis is another one.


what I want is for the Cobra soildgers to have those bigger...technically stronger looking robo suits... that were a heavy feature in the old cartoon.... I think they had jet packs on the back as well.

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The Delta 6 Suits don't bother me.... they remind me more of concepts that show up in Japanease Anime movies..... like the movie Spriggan, where a specially made 'hard suit' resembles the concepts in this movie, also the movie MD Giest has a hard suit, though less techy, Bubblgum Crisis is another one.


what I want is for the Cobra soildgers to have those bigger...technically stronger looking robo suits... that were a heavy feature in the old cartoon.... I think they had jet packs on the back as well.
but this isn't some japanese bubble gum crises, it's gi joe. the real american hero. duke and the joes should be like a slightly less violent rambo, not some robo power ranger wannabe.

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