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Old 08-23-2011, 02:30 AM   #126
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In the d23 vid Is that a new song playing in the background when feige was introducing the cast members
Nope. It's the same one that played when the cast walked onto the Avengers panel last year at SDCC.

It's from Iron Man 2. "Sledgehammer" by John Debney.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrtaoj98TbM

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Old 08-23-2011, 03:17 PM   #127
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I still think it might be a good idea to bring Djawadi back. Loved his score for Iron Man, and I'd be interested to see what he could do with something with the sheer scope and size of Avengers. Game of Thrones showed he could do emotional work, so I have no doubts that he is qualified.
I wasn't too thrilled with Djawadi's score. I thought at times it sounded a little too techno.

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Old 08-23-2011, 06:28 PM   #128
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I actually wouldn't mind Silvestri scoring this one again. I do agree with everyone saying that this film needs to own all other scores from the solo movies, and still stand out as its own unique piece, so a memorable theme is needed: one that I can hum along to days after I hear it in the film
Yes. A memorable, hummable theme is key. Silvestri can deliver that, and he's not averse to incorporating other musical ideas into his score. (I haven't heard him compose a score that used other composers' themes, but he did skillfully integrate carols into his Zemeckis' A Christmas Carol.)

I'd be happy if Marvel Studios and Disney went with any of these guys: Silvestri, Patrick Doyle, Bear McCreary, Conrad Pope, Alexandre Desplat, Brian Tyler, John Debney, David Newman.

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Old 08-23-2011, 08:42 PM   #129
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If it is not Giacchino, Silvestri wouldn't be too bad. He did a good job, not outstanding, with Cap. But at least better than all the previous run of Marvel Studios films.

Nothing has come close to Elfman's Batman theme or Williams' Superman theme.

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Old 08-23-2011, 09:12 PM   #130
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For what it's worth, in recent years Silvestri has only done one film per year and he's already booked for one in 2012. Doyle has Pixar's Brave which would clash and Debney has his typical pile of crappy romcoms (someone get that man a better agent!).

We'll likely be getting someone new.

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Steal Michael Giacchino from something.

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Old 08-24-2011, 07:26 PM   #132
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Nothing has come close to Elfman's Batman theme or Williams' Superman theme.
Very true. There's some good themes in the Marvel movies, but nothing really outstanding (the one exception may be Spider-Man's theme).

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Old 08-24-2011, 07:31 PM   #133
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The only movie next year that I've seen Giacchino's name attached to is John Carter.

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Old 08-24-2011, 07:39 PM   #134
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Yeah which comes out in March. Recording will be around that time if not before. Thor was recorded in January.

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Old 08-24-2011, 10:04 PM   #135
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I thought the main cap theme was pretty memorable.

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Old 08-26-2011, 01:12 AM   #136
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Yeah Cap had a good theme that was pretty memorable. But Avengers needs to be even bigger. I'm tired of all these average or just above average comic book superhero movie scores. I want something big and awesome that can rival the classic film scores of the 70's, 80's, and 90's which we just aren't seeing anymore.

Now I mean, I really like the music for the Nolan Batman movies and how it grew into Dark Knight. But it still does not compare to what Elfman put together for the 1989 Batman. I'd just really like it if someone could attempt something at least as good.

I mean even Basil Poledouris made an awesome superhero score in Robocop and that wasn't based on a comic.

I like Giacchino because he seems to be one of the few guys out there who does some really impressive, big sounding stuff. Star Trek was really good. His Incredibles was fantastic. His one track for Cloverfield where he did a Godzilla homage was also pretty impressive. That's why I think Giacchino is the perfect man for the job because I truly believe he can do the Avengers music the justice it deserves.

Now I mean none of the music for Iron Man or Iron Man 2 is bad. I mean its there, there are some decent themes, but none of it has that really extra oopmh. It's not classic music that you want to hum later and listen to again and again. Avengers needs that sound.

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Old 08-29-2011, 05:34 AM   #137
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Anyone remember at the end of some episodes of Buffy in the aftermath of a huge apocalyptic battle when the dust had finally settled and people were taking stock of the destruction and their losses, they would often play the Buffy love theme (Close Your Eyes) from Surprise?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7Q80e487SU


Although it was a love theme, I thought it perfectly captured the sudden calm after the storm and the sense of emotion and pensiveness when Buffy realised it was a pyrrhic victory because someone had to be sacrificed or someone died to avert the disaster.


I hope that we get something like that at the end of the final battle in the Avengers. A theme (which has previously played earlier in the movie) but now has more emotional resonance. Then later it can lead to a more victorious section.

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Old 08-29-2011, 08:30 AM   #138
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Themes are still in movies, they're just less obvious.

Thor, for example, has WAY more themes than Captain America, you have to dig to look for them but once you find them you'll hear them everywhere. I love that, I love that I can listen to the score for the 30th time and still find new variations.

The days of big themes are all gone. Everyone harped on about how CA was a return to form when it had way more to do with Silvestri's G.I. Joe score than the ridiculous Williams comparisons people made.

And this is probably an unpopular opinion but Giacchino's Star Trek theme makes me cringe.

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Old 08-29-2011, 03:53 PM   #139
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Does his Incredibles score also make you cringe?

Thor's music was meh. Not that good.

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Does his Incredibles score also make you cringe?

Thor's music was meh. Not that good.
I actually thinks thor's music is the best of the bunch...

Caps Is good But I dont think its as Great as some of yall make it seem

but Music is all opinion anyway so to each there own

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Giacchino did Incredibles, did his music for that movie make you cringe?

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Giacchino did Incredibles, did his music for that movie make you cringe?
That was him? Holy ****. Explains why The Incredibles and Star Trek are two of my favorite film scores.

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No I like that score a lot. I like all his Pixar scores and love his Lost work. Otherwise he leaves me completely cold, I'd rather he didn't score this.

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So you would be OK with say Thor's composer?

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I would be.

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If the new Star Trek movie's score makes people cringe. Than the Thor movie score puts me to sleep .

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I think John Ottman would be a good choice although he can be a bit hit and miss. His X2 score is fantastic, as are his original pieces that he did for Superman Returns.

Also James Horner or Howard Shore would be epic.


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Old 08-31-2011, 07:09 AM   #148
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So you would be OK with say Thor's composer?
Well yeah. Patrick Doyle is one of my all time favourites. But he's scoring Pixar's Brave which should have a much better score so I'm happy he won't be doing it.

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Joss indirectly confirmed yesterday that he wouldn't be re-using the themes from the previous movies. He said this, on the topic of how he was approaching the visuals of the film:

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“You have to respect the realities of the other movies", says the director. "But visually this is very much my own thing.

“My style is very comic-book-like anyway, so I’m trying to do things the way I always do".

In a film that sees Iron Man, Captain America, The Hulk and Thor leaving their own movies behind to fight alongside each other, it seems that Whedon is steering clear of the sticky superhero sundae that a less confident helmsman would likely have lazily blended together.

“Part of Iron Man’s thing was, ‘Wow, this feels just like us!” says Whedon. “Asgard, less so, and Captain America was a nostalgia piece, so basically it would have been like hiring all the composers of all the other movies to work together on the score.”


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Old 09-01-2011, 03:50 PM   #150
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He didn't say he wouldn't use the themes. He only said he wouldn't hire all the composers to work together on the film. Obviously, The Avengers movie itself will likely have it's own score, but the themes for the main characters could still be incorporated into it.

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