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Old 02-15-2011, 03:28 PM   #51
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No, I have a fairly strong feeling that my theory is probably more likely.

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This is still Fox, my friend. The same Studio that tough Dr. Doom asking the Invisible Woman to marry him without they ever having more than a kiss was the normal thing to do.

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I would like to think that he betrays her leading to the ever more morally indifferent Mystique who kills her child's father.

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It's still a superhero movie. You're never going to see a Rape Baby in a superhero movie.
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Old 02-15-2011, 03:36 PM   #57
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This is still Fox, my friend. The same Studio that tough Dr. Doom asking the Invisible Woman to marry him without they ever having more than a kiss was the normal thing to do.
Vaughn and Singer have total creative control over this film. Also, Fox did not write the 'Fantastic Four' films, "my friend".

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Vaughn and Singer have total creative control over this film.
Still. It's a PG-13 movie about the X-Men. Don't expect to see one of its main characters getting raped by the Devil-looking villain and getting pregnant from him.

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Do I sense hostility in your words?

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Yeah, it's PG-13, not G.

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Old 02-15-2011, 04:31 PM   #61
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Yeah, it's PG-13, not G.
Find me one PG-13 movie where one of the main characters AND the leading female young character gets raped by a much older villain and is impregnated by him.

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Could you be anymore specific? You may have well added the fact that their skin colors are red and blue.

Rapes happen on daytime soap operas, much less in movies.

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What if plain Beast and plain Mystique are together in the beginning... and then Mystique falls for Azazel because he is comfortable being in his own skin (and Mystique comes believe his ways and and she decides to follow him eventually becoming blue Mystique... meanwhile Beast is jealous and decides to become umm blue Beast and ehh nevermind.

Please continue.

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The point still stands. Find me a PG-13 movie - Which is as much intented to kids as it is to teenagers and fans - where the main young female character is raped and/or impregnated by a older villain.

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The point still stands. Find me a PG-13 movie - Which is as much intented to kids as it is to teenagers and fans - where the main young female character is raped and/or impregnated by a older villain.
Again, you are being completely specific to THIS senario. It's like asking "find me another film where the main character gets injected with metal and then breaks out of the facility that provided the procedure".

Rapes happen in movies all the time. Look at Watchman. There were rape storylines in Degrassi and the current season of 90210, two shows with a target audience of 13 year old girls.

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Watchmen doesn't count. It's R. And there's a slight difference between Teenage shows like 90210 or Degrassi and superhero movies such as X-Men: First Class, that is made with kids in mind as much as teenagers.

There might be some sort of hostily between Azazel and Mystique, but, if Mystique does get pregnant with Nightcrawler, he won't be result of Rape.

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But that's not the argument. The argument is you saying it is completely out of the question, and that's just a load of bull.

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Guys discuss this in the "Will X-Men: First Class feature Rape?" thread.

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Old 02-15-2011, 05:06 PM   #69
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It is out of question. There's no way in Hell they'll have a main character being raped and impregnated by a older villain that looks like the goddamn Devil itself.

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Yeah, but we can see dead bodies and murdered people left and right. We can see stabbings and bombings and sexual activity. But, implying a character is raped off camera is completely out of the question.

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Isn't it implied that Sabretooth rapes, or is about to rape, a Vietnamese woman in the opening credits of X-Men Origins: Wolverine? Granted, I don't think Mystique will be raped, but I'm not sure how they're going to explain her relationship with Azazel, if there is one.


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Old 02-15-2011, 05:18 PM   #72
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Yes, but there's a big difference between attempting to rape and succeding not only in raping but also in impregnating the raped one.

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The point still stands. Find me a PG-13 movie - Which is as much intented to kids as it is to teenagers and fans - where the main young female character is raped and/or impregnated by a older villain.
It might not even happen in this movie, but there are ways it could. Say we're at the Cuba fight on the island and Azazel suddenly spots Mystique. For whatever reason, he teleports to her, and in an instant, teleports her into one of the broken pieces of the X-Jet. In the midst of the chaos and fighting, the X-Men are concerned, but can't go searching for her. All of a sudden Azazel teleports back into the fight, laughing maniacally. Charles reads his mind and finds out what happened. Etc., etc... It doesn't have to happen on-screen of course. And it wouldn't.

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Mystique could ahve to infliate hellfire club and have to sleep with Azarel which results In
her being pregnent.

It would be very dramatic for her to abanden an unwanted child

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Mystique could ahve to infliate hellfire club and have to sleep with Azarel which results In
her being pregnent.

It would be very dramatic for her to abanden an unwanted child

My thoughts on the matter exactly. I mean, with a shapeshifter like Mystique, she could very well be what *any* man wants. She could easily be sent in with the intent of using her ability in that manner.

Either that or, vice versa, she could have been sleeping with the enemy the whole time and be infliating the X-men, for the Hellfire club. She is (or at least will be later on) evil, ya know.

With Shaw giving Magneto his helmet, and Mystique ending up on Magneto's side after this film and by the point in time of X1, I'll be expecting some kind of link. Also, the clip from the trailer with her transforming in bed does look a bit... mischievous, might I say?

We'll see.

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