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Old 08-17-2010, 11:25 PM   #26
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Zoe looks completely out of place there and you know it. LOL

Ironically enough, Halle was much, much prettier than this girl even at her age. I'm calling it now: it's (another) miss!
I think you're forgetting the fact that if Storm were to be in this film she'd be all but 16-20. She is a teenager. All your suggestions are good Storm recasts, but not a younger teenage Storm.

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I think you're forgetting the fact that if Storm were to be in this film she'd be all but 16-20. She is a teenager. All your suggestions are good Storm recasts, but not a younger teenage Storm.
Exactly.

Which is why I'm willing to give Zoe a chance.

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I'm assuming you're judging simply on appearance Lightning?

For all we know they could give her a mohawk and have Storm be a teen rebel. I think we should wait and see before jumping to assumptions.
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I think he's referring to her look, which I do kind of agree. Halle and Zoe have sweet facial features. Storm has never been on the soft side looks wise. Looks wise she had've more of a strong bone structure like Jada Pinkett Smith or someone in that range.
You got it.

Storm is a RAW beauty. She's exotic--yes. But she was never a candy-faced woman. She has never been drawn that way. Remember, she was originally patterned after Iman...who is like 90 degrees darker than this young lady (or Halle for that matter).

What has always made Storm just a striking woman is (aside from her height and blue eyes) the stark contrast between her white hair and dark, rich complexion. Not the washed out look that we had in X1 and X2. Halle looked so soft and downy that the wig they used for X3 actually had black low-lights in it just to bring SOME color to the girl's face!

Zoe is just more of the same.

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Old 08-17-2010, 11:32 PM   #29
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But Saldana isn't even a smidge black.

And unless I'm to believe that Halle Berry is almost 10 years older than Kelsey Grammar.. well.
I don't care about the literal ethnicity of the actress, guys. Uhura is not Spanish either and yet Zoe captured the African character reasonably enough. It's all about looks and portrayal.

FOX just insists on sticking with this mistake. They had a young yellow-skinned baby girl in the deleted scenes of Origins: Wolverine and they seem to be following the same wack formula here.

I know some of ya'll question why I am so hard on some of Bryan Singer's past decisions. But this is one of the reasons: that mess has created far-reaching repercussions! Now we're stuck!!!

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I think you're forgetting the fact that if Halle were to be in this film she'd be all but 16-20. She is a teenager. All your suggestions are good Halle recasts, but not a younger teenage Halle.
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They are not focused on trying to be faithful to the character. They are trying to be faithful to the studio's watered-down interpretation of Storm via Halle Berry. Which is a problem for me.

You'd think that after all the years of backlash and whining they've received on this they'd take this opportunity to right this ship. *sigh* Now, we have 10 more years of more sequels featuring Storm-Lite.

Yippee for us.

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Old 08-17-2010, 11:36 PM   #31
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but she is'nt full blown African american either she is Dominican/puerto rican
But if you're going to go with someone lighter at least get somone with some presence.

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To Fox though, Halle wasn't a **** up, so of course they are going to stay in that line of thinking.

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To Fox though, Halle wasn't a **** up, so of course they are going to stay in that line of thinking.
Well, that's just wonderful. This means that when they do Fantastic Four: Reborn, we'll get another olive-skinned Latina with a bleached wig and creeped out blue eyes to play whitebread Susan Storm. Instead of...you know, just casting someone that works. Like...January Jones! Can't wait.

I wish Disney would just grow the balls and buy it all back and be done with it.

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Old 08-17-2010, 11:44 PM   #34
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get this through your guys head this is a prequel to existing franchise cyclops will resemble marsden(looking at you lucas till)

magento will resemble McKellan

and yes storm will resemble Halle

and casting wise these all match up

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get this through your guys head this is a prequel to existing franchise cyclops will resemble marsden(looking at you lucas till)

magento will resemble McKellan

and yes storm will resemble Halle

and casting wise these all match up
But I am fine with all the others and truth be told, the MAJORITY of people would be too. Famke, James, Ian, etc. were fine. So please, match them the hell up.

Halle's Storm is not highly regarded. And it's not just because of her acting; her look was off for everone that knows the comics.

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to be honest alot of the characters were not like there comic counter part

rogue
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They are not focused on trying to be faithful to the character. They are trying to be faithful to the studio's watered-down interpretation of Storm via Halle Berry. Which is a problem for me.

You'd think that after all the years of backlash and whining they've received on this they'd take this opportunity to right this ship. *sigh* Now, we have 10 more years of more sequels featuring Storm-Lite.

Yippee for us.
I thought Halle was a pretty good Storm.

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The only thing Halle had in common with Storm is that she's black and female.

That's about it.

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and all jackman had in common with wolverine was mutton chops an claws lol

all rogue had in common was her hair

did'nt stop us from liking their portrayals and performance

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I thought Halle was a pretty good Storm.
Storm-Lite!

Not saying you can't drink it, but it's not the real thing!

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The only thing Halle had in common with Storm is that she's black and female.

That's about it.
And even that ain't all completely correct. I think that us Black fans are more passionate because Storm is one of, if not THE most recognized Black comic book character ever... and she's one of the most most highly regarded and powerful in the X-Men franchise. It is a bummer when such a character gets dulled down and cast incorrectly by studio heads who fail to care or appreciate the true origin of the character.

Does somebody from Kenya have to play Ororo? Nobody is saying that... just ideally look the part, and be able to act worth a crap.

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Storm-Lite!

Not saying you can't drink it, but it's not the real thing!
If you say so man. I really enjoyed her in the movies.

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storm-lite!

Not saying you can't drink it, but it's not the real thing!
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And even that ain't all completely correct. I think that us Black fans are more passionate because Storm is one of, if not THE most recognized Black comic book character ever... and she's one of the most most highly regarded and powerful in the X-Men franchise. It is a bummer when such a character gets dulled down and cast incorrectly by studio heads who fail to care or appreciate the true origin of the character.

Does somebody from Kenya have to play Ororo? Nobody is saying that... just ideally look the part, and be able to act worth a crap.
Yes, so true. It's just a waste. She's in many respects Marvel's answer to "Wonder Woman" (in that she's just a huge mainstay face for Marvel's roster).

Casting Zoe in this role will just prove once again that they don't give a damn. My biggest fear? She'll be a worse actress than we can imagine. I wonder how much she inherited from Lisa Bonet or Lenny Kravitz?

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and all jackman had in common with wolverine was mutton chops an claws lol

all rogue had in common was her hair

did'nt stop us from liking their portrayals and performance
Hugh Jackman at least acted like Wolverine.

Rogue was changed into a doormat which really didn't bring anything special to the character.

Likewise Halle Berry didn't improve Storm. She was definitely a downgrade.

Some people support whatever changes the studio makes. Just because it's Hollywood they assume Hollywood knows better how to treat the characters.

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Some people support whatever changes the studio makes.
Indeed. And I fear that some of the users here are already thinking along these lines instead of refusing to "settle" for mediocrity. I used to be the exact same way. I would post glorious "essays" packed with pics and bullet points trying to convince others (and myself) of why these watered down character developments could still work even though they were totally dissing the source material in favor of studio politics. And inevitably it just suspended my hopes to be let down later.

Not anymore.

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we just dont want to be all boycott you ruined my child hood type of reaction we just want to see these character on screen and just happy to get a possible good x men film again with singer and vaughn at the helm.

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I just want a good movie.

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we just dont want to be all boycott you ruined my child hood type of reaction we just want to see these character on screen and just happy to get a possible good x men film again with singer and vaughn at the helm.
*sigh*

So what exactly do you think I've been griping about tonight???

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