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Old 01-21-2011, 02:57 PM   #51
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Well maybe if ANYONE would bother to ask!

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Old 01-21-2011, 03:13 PM   #52
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The article also stated Havok would be Cyclop's brother.
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i believe that AICN article said Alex Summers by name
Honestly, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if this movie does away with much, if not all of, the future franchise. They said it was the start of a new trilogy, and frankly by the time "First Class 2" comes out, no one will really care if Cyclops, Jean, and Angel find there way back into the trilogy. Think about it, by the time this movie comes out we'll have been 11 year removed from X-Men 1. More than likely if it warrants a sequel, that movie will be 13 years old at that time. In this same time frame we've seen Batman use Two-Face twice, and we will see Catwoman and Bane re-used soon as well. It's more than possible for FOX to re-introduce characters.

Sure, some of this movie seems to pull from the originals, but it's so far removed that really won't matter. From what we've seen so far from stills this is a largely different continuity.

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Old 01-21-2011, 03:49 PM   #53
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maybe they're making Havok Cyke's dad.


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Old 01-22-2011, 12:45 AM   #54
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maybe they're making Havok Cyke's dad.

Please, don't joke about that.


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Old 01-22-2011, 01:01 AM   #55
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and vulcan is havok's dad!!

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Old 01-22-2011, 11:46 AM   #56
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Please, don't joke about that.



What would be wrong with that?

Why because in the comics he is Cyclops brother?

Would changing his realtionship to father REALLY change the character that much?
No it wouldn,t,

What goes on in the comics verse, doesn't mean it HAS to happen in the movies.

It's not like he was suggesting making Havoc be telepathic,

Besides theres a really good chance Havoc won't be Cyclops brother in the movies, so be prepared to be dissapointed like 90 percent of you x-men fans on everysinge thing about the movies, since nothing pleases you guys.

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Old 01-22-2011, 03:30 PM   #57
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What would be wrong with that?

Why because in the comics he is Cyclops brother?

Would changing his realtionship to father REALLY change the character that much?
No it wouldn,t,

What goes on in the comics verse, doesn't mean it HAS to happen in the movies.

It's not like he was suggesting making Havoc be telepathic,

Besides theres a really good chance Havoc won't be Cyclops brother in the movies, so be prepared to be dissapointed like 90 percent of you x-men fans on everysinge thing about the movies, since nothing pleases you guys.
Lets also make Emma Scott's grandmother and Mysitque is really his aunt.




Simply put, NO.

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Maybe he'll die... before Cyclops is even born.

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Old 02-02-2011, 05:51 PM   #59
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Oh! What if they are HALF-brothers and maybe they were seperated or never knew each other... just a thought.

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Old 02-02-2011, 11:17 PM   #60
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Lets also make Emma Scott's grandmother and Mysitque is really his aunt.




Simply put, NO.

Thats a horrible comparison, Cyclops isn't related to Mysituqe or Emma , by adding that , yes that would be stupid, but Cyclops and Havok are related, changing from Brother to Father wouldn't change the dynamic that much, seing is how no matter what we won't see them on screen together in this verse.

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Old 02-03-2011, 05:37 AM   #61
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Thats a horrible comparison, Cyclops isn't related to Mysituqe or Emma , by adding that , yes that would be stupid, but Cyclops and Havok are related, changing from Brother to Father wouldn't change the dynamic that much, seing is how no matter what we won't see them on screen together in this verse.
Well, we could have seen them together in a sequel to First Class that introduced Cyclops...

So it could be then that Havok ends up being the father of Scott instead??
Is the First Class version of Havok old enough to have Scott as a child? I thought Havok was just a teenager in this.

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Old 02-03-2011, 07:26 AM   #62
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Havok could still be Cyclop's brother. Their father could have Havok at 20 and Cyclops at 40 with different woman. This would make them 20 years apart. This happened in the real world all the time !

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Old 02-03-2011, 10:14 AM   #63
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Well, we could have seen them together in a sequel to First Class that introduced Cyclops...

So it could be then that Havok ends up being the father of Scott instead??
Is the First Class version of Havok old enough to have Scott as a child? I thought Havok was just a teenager in this.
Havok is a teenager many years before Cyclops is born. He could easily be the dad, yes.

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Old 02-03-2011, 10:34 AM   #64
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Im curious about Havok personality on this prequel.... and to see his interaction with the rest of the team.

I wonder if he and one of the x-girls will have some kind of love-plot.

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Old 02-03-2011, 12:14 PM   #65
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It radiates from his body in a massive burst - and is often seen originating from his chest - but can be channelled through his hands for a targeted blast.

Havok is a battery. He soaks up cosmic radiation that exists naturally in our surroundings and comes from outer space.

Cyclops' energy source is solar radiation (which consists of visible light plus infa-red and ultra-violet rays).

(The sun does emit some cosmic radiation, usually in solar flares)

I hope we see a different effect than Cyclops' red beam. Some trailer descriptions indicated Havok's power was a red beam coming out of his chest. I don't like that idea. It's inaccurate and boring.

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Alex looks so much better when he's drawn with his energy displayed in blue/white instead of yellow IMO (which to me would look like if the artists started drawing Scott's blast as bright emerald green). Nice find on these.

As far as his abilities, he's also shown that he's been able to absorb nuclear energy before which make me believe that since this will be in the 60's and there's the Cuban Missile Crisis deal going on, that Alex may function in that capacity as well for this instance potentially.

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Old 02-10-2011, 09:32 PM   #66
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Here is the trailer for X Men First class:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrbHy...layer_embedded
Havok ( lucas till) on this trailer is so cool, it really does not matter blue or red light, related to Cyclop or not ( in the comic book-- they are all supernature, ability to time travel, depend on who is the writer)

Here is the quote from Bryan Singer about Havok: "Havok is danger to himself and everyone around him" I like that in the movie.
http://collider.com/bryan-singer-x-m...t-class/75625/

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The red beams disappoint me because I can't imagine having Cyclops and Havok in the same film now without it seeming extra redundant. Which means it'll probably never happen on screen.

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The red beams disappoint me because I can't imagine having Cyclops and Havok in the same film now without it seeming extra redundant. Which means it'll probably never happen on screen.
The new Bryan Singer interview pretty much confirms they're not related ..

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The new Bryan Singer interview pretty much confirms they're not related ..
That makes the red beams even more nonsensical.

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Not an enormous fan of the Havok power effect from the trailer. I was hoping for something that built a bit more.

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I like the fact that the aesthetic of concentric circles is kept somewhat with Alex's powers, but it's disappointing that they went with red. And what's even more distressing is that Singer apparently gushed about him being a cool character. I mean, is red the only acceptable energy-projectile color in these films?

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Agreed. Alex's blasts aren't exactly subtle. From what seems to be a full on explusion it seems to be pretty tiny. Given the context of the shot though, it's hard to guess if that's what they'll all look like, or if that was something more "pinpoint". Nevertheless it seems to be a lackluster display so far.

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Havok is a teenager many years before Cyclops is born. He could easily be the dad, yes.
This is true, but I always thought of Cyclops being born in the last years of the sixties, or the very early seventies. Even then, they could still be brothers.

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As far as the trailer goes, the shot of Havok using his powers looks the least refined in the CGI department. Who knows, maybe it'll be worked on (I've learned from the last few films not to count on it though).

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The new Bryan Singer interview pretty much confirms they're not related ..
He says they're not brothers, but kind of hints they could be related...


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If they are not related, his power being red and the fact that he will be known by Alex Summers is quite strange.

If they are related, Scott could be his younger brother. It id possible to have a brother who is 20-30 years older. Guys can have baby when he is a teen and also when he is old.

If they are cousin, then that will be easy explanation as well ! Alex could be Scott's father's oldest brother !

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