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Old 08-28-2010, 05:49 PM   #76
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By the time they eventually get round to 'X4' Patrick Stewart will be in his 80's. Hugh Jackman will have probably moved on from Wolverine, so Halle Berry will likely be the only lead interested in returning. Anna Paquin may return if Rogue has a good role, so I can see a scenario where Storm is leading the school with Rogue and Iceman (possibly Colossus) as teachers. Plus new characters who have joined over the years.


Anyway, back onto box office competition.

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Fox will eventually go forward in time with the franchise, but if First Class is successful they are more likely to make a sequel. Why would they get the old cast back together when they have a perfectly good new one?
The claim that we have a perfectly good new cast is assuming a lot, since the only characters guaranteed to survive this movie are Xavier and Magneto. Before Singer came on the concept of a trilogy was floating around and it made more sense then because they were building a cast that would stay on for a long time for sure while with this new cast it's only speculation. Unless the next film yet again takes place while Storm, Cyclops, and Jean are too young to participate, there is going to have to be a big time jump and they'll have to get a new cast for a First Class 2. Even if Havok or Banshee survive, they clearly can't play the same character if the time period is supposed to be 20 years later with shooting only 1-3 years later.

Under the original concept for First Class I would have said it was 100% guaranteed they would not make an X4 because they would be setting up characters they would be following for multiple films but it's not as likely they're going to make a trilogy all set in the 60s under Singer's concept. First Class seems like it could easily be just a look back at the past and not a saga that takes place in the past. The concept of a line of X-Men Origins films fell apart after Wolverine so the concept of First Class trilogy could easily fall apart as well if Singer wants something else.

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Old 08-28-2010, 06:06 PM   #78
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We are talking about a three decade span to cover with prequels. No one involved with the franchise wants to move forward. You'll hear Donner toss around the notion of X-4 and mention how it is actively on the pipeline, but there is virtually no value without Cyclops/Jean and Storm leading the school. The absolute necessity of recasting Xavier/Jackman pretty much kills any return value it may have had from the OT. I think Fox even realizes that they have failed to maximize the franchises potential and the only way to do that is to give neglected characters the on screen justice they deserve.

As far as leaping 15-20 years... a bald, wheel chair ridden McAvoy pretty much adds ten years. Just make him pale, feeble, and more wrinkly. If they wait three years, audiences will see a natural progression. FC2 is the only thing that makes sense as far as the next step considering they went forward with this.


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Old 08-28-2010, 06:26 PM   #79
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since the only characters guaranteed to survive this movie are Xavier and Magneto.
Mystique/Beast?

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Old 08-28-2010, 06:28 PM   #80
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Moira MacTaggert?

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Old 08-28-2010, 07:26 PM   #81
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IMHO a reboot kicking of from the new trilogy is more likely than X4.

I agree, X4 wont happen.

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Old 08-28-2010, 07:37 PM   #82
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Ah, I'm an idiot. But even those characters depend on what the story for FC2 is so I should have just said the chance for them returning for the sequel instead. Beast is guaranteed because he knows Storm in X3, unless they just reduce him to a cameo or something to establish he was with the team and that he's off to start a political career. I actually don't see Moira being a major player for the entire trilogy unless they do stick to the 60s-70s for most of it.

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Old 08-29-2010, 07:54 AM   #83
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Fox will eventually go forward in time with the franchise, but if First Class is successful they are more likely to make a sequel. Why would they get the old cast back together when they have a perfectly good new one?
Yes, I agree here. We're more likely to get a First Class sequel, and an X4 is possible.

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Exactly. We may get Halle back as Storm (but I doubt we'll see Storm in much of an action role). It will be a new set of characters, plus Rogue, Colossus, Iceman, Kitty. Depends of course what Singer wants to do, how he sees it moving forwards.

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Old 08-29-2010, 11:16 AM   #84
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Thor
Pirates 4
Hangover 2
Kung Fu Panda 2
X-Men First Class
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Cars 2
Rise of the Apes
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Cowboys and Aliens
The Smurfs
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Final Destinaton 5

All these come out from April 2011 to August 2011. It's just a crowded year next year.
Final Destination 5? OMG Give me a break people. This movie has been over.

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Old 08-29-2010, 11:58 AM   #85
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People need to get this around their heads: X4 WILL NEVER HAPPEN
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Not even I want to see a movie featuring Storm, Rogue and Iceman as main players.

And by now, bringing back Cyclops and Jean will just solidify the status of the series as a joke.

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Old 08-29-2010, 01:31 PM   #87
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At First I thought this was a one shot "look back" sort of thing. But, recent interviews with Vaughn and Singer suggest otherwise. They both mentioned it being a "fresh start" and a "new beginning" for the franchise. I think Singer definitely has a story planned for future films.

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As long as Singer isn't the one actually directing, I'm fine with a "new beginning" for the franchise. His actions scenes, while not as horrible as Ratner's, are lackluster.

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huh lol night crawler scene and wolverine/death strike fight scene were the best of the franchise and were great scenes

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As long as Singer isn't the one actually directing, I'm fine with a "new beginning" for the franchise. His actions scenes, while not as horrible as Ratner's, are lackluster.
He'll probably do First Class 2. I doubt Vaughn is up for anything more than this one film.

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lack... luster.

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Old 08-29-2010, 01:51 PM   #92
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He'll probably do First Class 2. I doubt Vaughn is up for anything more than this one film.
We'll see. Vaughn had stated previously that he wanted to stay away from adapted stories... and then he jumped on this movie when he was offered it. If First Class is successful, they might ask him to stay on.

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I'd much prefer him directing over Bryan, truthfully.

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He'll probably do First Class 2. I doubt Vaughn is up for anything more than this one film.
The Kick Ass sequel comic is already being written and drawn right now so they will want to release the film right after the comic release and Vaughn will be directing that. I see that movie coming out in 2012.

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http://thefilmstage.com/2010/07/30/k...s-next-spring/

So after First Class, Vaughn will be doing Kick Ass 2 until it is released in 2012 and Fox will not wait on Vaughn unless they plan to release First Class 2 in 2013 then I can see him coming back.

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Fox won't want a First Class sequel in 2012. That'll be Wolverine's year.

They'll wait for a 2013 or 2014 release most likely. Both Vaughn and Singer should be free after Kick-Ass 2 and Jack the Giant Killer, so it'll be interesting to see who goes for it.

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Fox won't want a First Class sequel in 2012. That'll be Wolverine's year.

They'll wait for a 2013 or 2014 release most likely. Both Vaughn and Singer should be free after Kick-Ass 2 and Jack the Giant Killer, so it'll be interesting to see who goes for it.
Most likely Fantastic 4

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Wolverine 2 + FF = No need for a First Class sequel in 2012.

(Plus there will be Star Trek, Batman 3, Spider-Man)

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I'm not surprised that Vaughn took this gig. He's been wanting to direct a big budget superhero film for quite some time and came very close with X3 and Thor. He's even mentioned that he would have loved to direct the upcoming Superman Reboot. I think Singer had a lot to do with getting Vaughn on board though. Especially after the previous experience Vaughn had with this studio, when he was attached to X3.

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i like them both brian so far is the better director

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I prefer Vaughn but I don't get the claims Singer is lackluster at directing action. Nightcrawler vs Secret Service is one of the greatest action scenes ever in a super hero film IMO.

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