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Old 10-05-2010, 04:56 PM   #26
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guarantee snyder sends the new supes to do the same training butler did for 300, which i think would look amazing on a 6'5 guy. Just hope there won't be any slow motion zoom in shots of supes shirtless body in a very homo erotic way.

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Old 10-05-2010, 04:59 PM   #27
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Old 10-05-2010, 05:01 PM   #28
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Homoerotic? I'm all for fan service (a shirtles Clark defending the farm?) if it means girls will see the movie! :P

But I do agree, Snyder himself is a gym rat who actually participated with his actors' training for 300, so Supes will look pretty buff.

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Old 10-05-2010, 09:06 PM   #29
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Well with Thor though we have the guy straining to life an object in the rain and from certain angles. His muscle definition was going to show through. Now in costume though that definition is just gone. Now as to the returns suit compressing Routh. Yeah the human body is made up of water but we aren't a water balloon. Compressing a few centimeters in certain areas isn't going to make are heads and hands bigger. Muscle isn't water. Skin isn't water. Get some tight pants and you will compress not enough so that your blood forces the rest of yourself to bulge out.

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Interesting news:
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Old 10-09-2010, 02:52 PM   #31
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Thats a cool vid but Id rather the person actually have the right physique but then again maybe I wouldn't even know

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I don't think you can say that the suit squeezed him. Water is an incompressible fluid, and humans are largely water. So if you squeeze them in one place, other places will bugle. If the suit squeezed Routh's arms, then did his hands and head bulge?

I do think you can say the cut of the suit and placement of the cape etc. served to down play what bulk he had. When the suit came out there were several manips of it showing it with a larger S-shield, lower cut collar and cape attachment that were closer to the comics. In the resulting image Routh looked bigger.



I don't think the actor needs to be ripped, shredded or exploded with veins popping everywhere, but I do think the actor needs to be thickly and heavily muscled, more than Routh or Reeve were. I don't think the actor should have the massive quads that body builders often have (while not having chicken legs either), the physique should be a little top heavy.
It does squeeze. A lot. It was made of milliskin, which is highly compressed when compared to lycra or some of the other fabrics used to make Under Armour or Nike Dri-Fit compression shirts.

Typically, milliskin is used for dancer's costumes and the like. The trade-off is that the fabric they used for Routh's suit (also used for Fantastic Four and Spider-Man) had problems using the lowered neckline and enlargened shield because of how much the suit shrinks until it's put on the user. The positive for the stuff is that it shades well, apparently.

Notice that the necklines for Routh's suit, the FF and Spider-man suits were all around the same height. Not a coincidence. It's also why the stuntmen and Maguire all wore muscle padding underneath the suits like Routh did, and I'm willing to bet the FF cast did, as well. I personally think they should just go with the fabric consistency used for Nike Dri-Fit. I own one of those shirts and it has the right consistency to it and compliments the positives of a physique well (makes me feel pretty Super, even though I weigh a buck-eighty soaking wet). If they use that and customize it for the actor in question, then it'd look fine and probably cost a fraction of the price of the milliskin suits because they wouldn't have to crap out extra cash for the more expensive fabric and extra muscle padding.

I do believe that with this other fabric and the classic designs of the comic suit, Routh would've looked phenomenally better. It's almost like they paid extra for him to look mediocre, when during the bonus features, he was definitely no physical slouch during his workouts. It was almost like the suit design practically undid all the work Routh and Michael Ryan did in the gym.

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Old 10-09-2010, 03:50 PM   #35
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Old 10-11-2010, 07:18 AM   #36
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Have you guys seen how big the guy playing Thor is we shouldnt settle for anything less I want the actor playing Superman to look just as impressive.http://igossip.com/gossip/Celebrity_...f_Fame/1251156

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only guy as tall as hemsworth who has been suggested is Armie Hammer who is 6'5

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Old 10-11-2010, 10:45 AM   #38
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only guy as tall as hemsworth who has been suggested is Armie Hammer who is 6'5
Not bothered about height more so about build, this Hemsworth guy probably has the best Superhero build excluding Michael Jai White(Spawn) and Wesley Snipes(Blade). We cant have Thor looking better than Supes, the marvel fanboys will never let us here the end of it.

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Old 10-11-2010, 10:49 AM   #39
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We cant have Thor looking better than Supes, the marvel fanboys will never let us here the end of it.

Both will be covered most of the time anyway.

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Both will be covered most of the time anyway.
Thor already has a shirtless scene, so we all know his hench as ****. I am hoping Supes will have one not for homoerotic reasons but just to show that his as big and cut as Jackman and Hemsworth.

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Old 10-11-2010, 12:34 PM   #41
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The ideal physique for Superman?

Well, I'd say as muscular as you can possibly get, without crossing the line into looking like a bodybuilder as clark.

Somebody mentioned Clint Walker's type of build. That would be excellent.

Other guys with similar builds are Hugh Jackman, or even Joe Manganeillo.

Even if you do not like Joe M. for the role, he DOES have the right kind of build.

If they cast somebody else having them get as close to that kind of shape possible, and then if needed to go that step further, just cheat a bit as in this video: http://www.liquida.it/video/a50abff4...ans-in-videos/

Again, this is not saying it needs to be Joe, but he has that kind of a build that is big enough to look massive in tight clothing, or shirtless, but yet hides very well in normal clothes.

Heck, Clark can still get away with looking thicker than this in a suit too, just has to avoid the bodybuilder look, and that does give some room.

Here is the illusion I am talking about, with the right size, and low enough bodyfat% you can look both huge, or normal in regular clothing. I mean in normal clothing he really looks thin, as in lot more skinny that Clark even needs to look.





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Well I know Phil Noto thinks of Walker when he draws Superman (he said that specifically in an interview with Wizard Magazine years ago) and on this very board Jamal Igle has said as much and posted a sketch of that in the costume thread. I think SuperMike posted something about Ross using Walker as inspiration for Superman as well.
Ross has stated that he thinks Walker would have made a perfect Superman durring the 1960's, had there been a TV show then. I'm not 100% sure if he is the exact template, but I would not be suprised at all.

It could just be that Alex has a certain look he paints Superman, and he thinks that Walker resembles that look.

If anything Ross still adds more muscle than Walker really had. Then again, at different points in walker's career he was heavier or lighter, like anyone.

In this picture Walker was down in weight, and looked sort of thin compared to what he ussually looked like, but I can still see a resemblance.



Here is a vid of Walker showing his home gym, looks pretty strong, but not a bodybuilder by any means. I think he was in his mid 40's when this was filmed too.

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Old 10-11-2010, 01:00 PM   #42
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The ideal physique for Superman?

Well, I'd say as muscular as you can possibly get, without crossing the line into looking like a bodybuilder as clark.

Somebody mentioned Clint Walker's type of build. That would be excellent.

Other guys with similar builds are Hugh Jackman, or even Joe Manganeillo.

Even if you do not like Joe M. for the role, he DOES have the right kind of build.

If they cast somebody else having them get as close to that kind of shape possible, and then if needed to go that step further, just cheat a bit as in this video: http://www.liquida.it/video/a50abff4...ans-in-videos/

Again, this is not saying it needs to be Joe, but he has that kind of a build that is big enough to look massive in tight clothing, or shirtless, but yet hides very well in normal clothes.

Heck, Clark can still get away with looking thicker than this in a suit too, just has to avoid the bodybuilder look, and that does give some room.

Here is the illusion I am talking about, with the right size, and low enough bodyfat% you can look both huge, or normal in regular clothing. I mean in normal clothing he really looks thin, as in lot more skinny that Clark even needs to look.







Ross has stated that he thinks Walker would have made a perfect Superman durring the 1960's, had there been a TV show then. I'm not 100% sure if he is the exact template, but I would not be suprised at all.

It could just be that Alex has a certain look he paints Superman, and he thinks that Walker resembles that look.

If anything Ross still adds more muscle than Walker really had. Then again, at different points in walker's career he was heavier or lighter, like anyone.

In this picture Walker was down in weight, and looked sort of thin compared to what he ussually looked like, but I can still see a resemblance.



Here is a vid of Walker showing his home gym, looks pretty strong, but not a bodybuilder by any means. I think he was in his mid 40's when this was filmed too.

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I will give the guy one time he certainly was clued up on the right way to exercise even during that time.

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Old 10-12-2010, 04:17 AM   #43
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IMO Superman being as big as Thor is dumb. People seem to forget he's not Just Superman, he's Clark Kent as well.

P.S IMO Christopher Reeve had the perfect physique as Clark Kent and Superman.

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Old 10-12-2010, 04:28 AM   #44
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IMO Superman being as big as Thor is dumb. People seem to forget he's not Just Superman, he's Clark Kent as well.

P.S IMO Christopher Reeve had the perfect physique as Clark Kent and Superman.
No not really like the poster showed a big guy can look small in a suit, just look at that guy from True Blood.

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Dont know where to put this, but maybe they could address what happens to Superman's "physique" during solar storms and the likes.

Could they potentially kill him or create a SUPER Superman?

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Dont know where to put this, but maybe they could address what happens to Superman's "physique" during solar storms and the likes.

Could they potentially kill him or create a SUPER Superman?

Like causing him to HULK out or something?

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Old 10-15-2010, 02:29 PM   #47
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that could probably be a great way to actually fight Darksied one on one, without watering down Darksied, or having to make a J.L. just to have Darksied in it to be defeated

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Well with Thor though we have the guy straining to life an object in the rain and from certain angles. His muscle definition was going to show through. Now in costume though that definition is just gone. Now as to the returns suit compressing Routh. Yeah the human body is made up of water but we aren't a water balloon. Compressing a few centimeters in certain areas isn't going to make are heads and hands bigger. Muscle isn't water. Skin isn't water. Get some tight pants and you will compress not enough so that your blood forces the rest of yourself to bulge out.
Actually, both skin and muscle are mostly water. Bones are the only thing in the body that isn't made of a majority of water. Tight pants will help make your feet and ankles swell. Girdles used to be used to make fat people look skinny and it works to some extent, but the overall "girth" of the person was unaffected though the distribution was.

The point is that the costume couldn't really compress Routh all that much. Routh looked too skinny for the part because he was too skinny for the part.

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I think the problem with Routh is the poor guy did all this bulking up only to be encased in a rubber suit that made all his work practically invisible.


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Michael O'Hearn was a good pick for the physical look, although I think he looked a little boyish. His acting needs honing. He even played Superman in Sandy Collera's World's Finest. Assuming he is still in shape, they should look at him.

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