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Old 10-05-2010, 06:20 PM   #26
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I'd like a more fantasy based film. I honestly don't think that either of them looked gorgeous. They looked nice but thats it.
This we dont need a grounded in reality Superman that is exactly what Returns was

Superman is fantasy treat him as such

just dont over stylize it

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Old 10-05-2010, 06:23 PM   #27
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This we dont need a grounded in reality Sherman that is exactly what Returns was

Superman is fantasy treat it as such
Exactly. That doesn't mean that the villian should be toned down or that the movie shouldn't be smart but I don't want that uber semi-realistic look for a Superman movie. Thats one of the things I hated about the brown looking Superman Returns.

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Old 10-05-2010, 06:25 PM   #28
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wait and see what green lantern looks like would be a good judge how to do it imo

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Old 10-05-2010, 06:29 PM   #29
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wait and see what green lantern looks like would be a good judge how to do it imo
Thats a good idea.

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No to over-stylization.

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I think, first and foremost, the movie should not look fake. No obvious green screen stuff. You can tell that this is the case in Miller/Rodriguez "Sin City", "300" and even "Sucker Punch", but it WORKS. I just don't think the same technique could work for Superman.

Nolan's movies on the other hand look real. Even Inception was, in my words, the most realistic unreal movie. But the color palette in most of his movies is bleak. Cold. Anti-Supermanish.

"Dawn of the Dead" and "Watchmen" were good in their style. Now, I know that slow-mo is to Snyder what explosions are to Michael Bay, but I am sure Nolan can convince him to keep it to a minimum. Still, "Superman Returns" and even "Inception" had many slow-mo sequences. So, they need to find a middle ground, which I am optimistic, they will.

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Snyder is notorious for stylized comicbook pieces (300, Watchmen, Suckerpunch), should Superman be handled the same way?
Hells to the yeah!


take a little snyder and add a little superman for all seasons/rocwellian atmosphere and I'm in the seat.

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I think the color scheme should be realistic and natural. While I did enjoy some of the relaxed tones and the 1940's feel of Returns with the classic, historical, live-in feel of ...after further review I guess I always liked the realistic but larger-than-life feel of Donner's New York version of Metropolis accompanied with Geoffrey Unsworth's style of photography. It just seemed like a real place you could visit, and that subconsciously helped me get into the story more, I guess. I think for the sake of consistency, I'd just like Snyder to stay in keeping with the sharpness and visual clarity he showed in Dawn of the Dead with a mix of colors and just make sure that Superman's costume pops in comparison. I'm going to post more later...but my wife is mocking me again.

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Old 10-05-2010, 08:10 PM   #34
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I doubt they can top the look of the original Superman fortress of solitude when Superman first takes off. if they can match that money shot, then they will have achieved something.

For some strange reason, the original Superman felt grounded in reality, yet still managed to bring us fantasy and meld together perfectly.

Superman Returns didn't have that feeling.

I guess its down to the actors too. Reeve made Superman believable like no one before.

I would hate to see Snyder bastardize Superman into some ass hole with tight rubber fetish.

lets wait and see.

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Old 10-05-2010, 08:16 PM   #35
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maybe there be a good slomo sex scene guys! you know because snyder always does exactly the same thing in each movie

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What about a goldish hue ala SWORDFISH?
That's one of the worst looking movies of all time. Snyder already works with a quality cinematographer who will hopefully be on board.

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Was there a slow mo owl sex scene in Legends of the Guardians?


I'll be slightly disappointed if the answer is no.

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Old 10-05-2010, 08:32 PM   #39
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Was there a slow mo owl sex scene in Legends of the Guardians?


I'll be slightly disappointed if the answer is no.
There's an unwritten rule in Hollywood that no film maker can have more than one owl related sex scene in their career. Snyder has already maxed out.

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Old 10-05-2010, 08:34 PM   #40
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Question is, is Snyder even capable of the type of direction seen in Inception?

I'm skeptical, because his prior work says otherwise.
Dawn of the Dead wasn't over stylized, and 300 and Watchmen were only stylized that way because it fits on what they looked on page, plus Sucker Punch was just Snyder's own vision. Superman, if anything, will have a bright aspect and very opposite to Nolan's dark look on his Batman franchise.


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Old 10-05-2010, 08:45 PM   #42
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Nothing should be overanything.

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I would be fine with the look of Dawn of the Dead.

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I didn't find anything wrong with the look of Watchmen...

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^I didn't either, I really liked the way it looked but I'd perfer something different for Superman.

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Old 10-05-2010, 09:07 PM   #46
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yeah it had they gritty taxi driver look to it's city and environments and worked for the story

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Old 10-05-2010, 09:19 PM   #47
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Overstylized action is the ideal path. As far as the filters go, most colors need to be rich and vibrant. We need to see a larger-than-life Superman world.

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I want the Watchman style of stylization. Unless Superman takes place off planet, I think Snyder has less reason to create stylized locations. But then damn, I've seen new york and chicago locations. Metropolis should look majestic and I just don't think a place like that actually exists. But yeah less 300 and more Watchman.

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So you want Metropolis to look more like a real city, or more of a combination of art/deco and futurama?

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I think, first and foremost, the movie should not look fake. No obvious green screen stuff. You can tell that this is the case in Miller/Rodriguez "Sin City", "300" and even "Sucker Punch", but it WORKS. I just don't think the same technique could work for Superman.

Nolan's movies on the other hand look real. Even Inception was, in my words, the most realistic unreal movie. But the color palette in most of his movies is bleak. Cold. Anti-Supermanish.

"Dawn of the Dead" and "Watchmen" were good in their style. Now, I know that slow-mo is to Snyder what explosions are to Michael Bay, but I am sure Nolan can convince him to keep it to a minimum. Still, "Superman Returns" and even "Inception" had many slow-mo sequences. So, they need to find a middle ground, which I am optimistic, they will.
I agree with everything you said 100%!.

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