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Oh thank god! IM2 was horrible! |
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6 | 5.61% |
WTF MARVEL. Its like X-Men 3 all over again... |
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50 | 46.73% |
Meh, time will tell. |
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51 | 47.66% |
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#276 |
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After seeing all the articles and information, I'm starting to think this is all overreaction by all of us. It could be possible that Favreau just wanted to go back to kids films and direct The Magic Kingdom. He did love that place since he was a kid.
Maybe it was something Marvel did, and maybe it was also because Favs truly didn't know where to go with IM3. But it feels as though the main catalyst to me is him simply wanting to do Magic Kingdom more. |
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Nobody said you shouldn't have an opinion, but you are always railing about it leading me to believe you have some bias. I didn't care for Wolverine, but you don't see me hammering it all the time. If anything, I try to find the good in bad movies, not mine the negative aspects from good movies. There are few movies that I have left angry or complaining about. Then again, I am easy to please and not so demanding about every freaking movie. |
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But yeah that's exactly what I got from that interview and the numerous interviews about him not knowing how to handle the Mandarin.
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Again, I think this whole Fury thing is mountain out of a molehill. His inclusion wasn't the problem in the script as he only took up two scenes. |
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Again, I think this whole Fury thing is mountain out of a molehill. His inclusion wasn't the problem in the script as he only took up two scenes. |
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Precisely my point. If we're to be technical, the Avengers had nothing to do with Nick Fury or SHIELD during their inception. But we're not talking about that Nick Fury, we're talking about the Ultimates Nick Fury, so basically, his sole purpose is to be a plot device and connect the Avengers agenda through each film, making him simultaneously unnecessary to IM2 as a standalone film, yet integral to IM2 as the Avenger's tie-in.
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Um my feelings on the Avengers thing is not being blown up. I hated the Avengers stuff and felt that it hurt the film overall, I'm not alone in my thinking either. If anyone loved the Avengers stuff and felt that Iron Man 2 was flawlessly handled, fine but I still felt that the film would have actually been good if the Avengers stuff was cut out and the villain had more to do than build things.
My anger towards Iron Man 2 comes from disappointment. I liked the first film and thought that they were going to up the anti when Iron Man 2 came out. I only wanted a few things. Interesting drama to go along with the jokes An interesting villain that was better than Staine (who wasn't awful) Interesting a good (better than the first film) action scenes that fit nicely into a semi interesting the plot I felt that I didn't get those things and thus I talk about it. I wasn't asking for a certain plot or villain or the greatest film in the world, I just wanted a good film. The film wasn't good or bad to me based on Boxoffice numbers or anyone elses opinions, it just simply wasn't enjoyable to me. It could have made 1bil and Favs could be coming back to direct and it still wouldn't be a good film to me. I hope that Favs moves on the other and better things and makes another Elf or Iron Man 1. He has problems as a director but he has great potential on the action movie front. I wish the future director good luck when dealing with Marvel because they have serious issues. |
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Favs did state in the past that he felt these comic book franchises run out of steam after the second one, so there you go.
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Hype lag.
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So what if they lowballed? Stop worrying if millionaires are getting paid enough. Nobody does this with sports but they are fine with giving actors a blank check. Why is this? Making movies is a business and they should be paying people what they are worth. Obviously, these people all took the jobs, therefore they are getting paid what they are worth.
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I get the feeling that some are with their responses.
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Take out the Avengers, and both of those characters (at least in this incarnation) wouldn't even exist. Now if they were really using SHIELD for the sake of SHIELD and fell more inline with the classic interpretations, I would have no problem with that. As it is now though, they're nothing more than a plot device
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just read the news. terrible. loved both movies. I hope JF changes his mind, I mean "Magic Kingdom"? wtf?
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Who is taking a paycut in these movies?
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Well, Faverau directed one great movie and one decent sequel, so it's hard to see this as a good thing. Still, a new director might bring something fresh to the table. Although it's unlikely that a new director would take the franchise in a significant new direction, I'd consider this an opportunity to bring some harder sci-fi into the series and tone down the comedy a little.
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Magic Kingdom, if done right, could be the 21st Century's answer to Roger Rabbit.
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You know, it sort of reminds me of the Superman franchise. Not that I think we'll see Iron Man-The Quest for Peace but I mean the whole saga of it all culminating in this. Oh well, it seems to me that both Favreau and Marvel are amicable.
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Let's be honest, lets say both hypothetical problems I presented before (Marvel's executive meddling and Favreau not knowing how to approach The Mandarin) came to fruition for IM3. It probably would be for the better that Favreau left the Franchise.
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^ You could make the argument then that without studio meddling there's every possibility that he could have found a way for that character to work if he had been left to do his own thing and develop films 2 and 3 more organically. Who's to say he couldn't have figured out the way to crack the character's code had he been granted more freedom. I know from personal experience having to include stuff is always going to screw with you creatively because that great idea you might of had now has to accommodate other aspects you don't necessarily want.
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I really don't see why the Mandarin's so damn hard anyway.
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I agree, but Favreau did, mentioning the difficultly of translating him to a movie on numerous occasions, so maybe just maybe he just did not want to take that on in the third film, as many including fans wanted Mandarin for this film, so he was in a no win situtaion, he had no idea how to make Mandarin fit into the Iron Man universe he had created, which I guess I understand, but Mandarin's power's are not magic based but in fact alien technology, so keeping Mandarin in a tech based world was not hard to imagine, whether it be alien tech or tech he made himself, just how do you make a guy with 10 rings of power realistic.
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1.TIH was re-cut by Gale Anne Hurd and David Maisel (that now is not in Marvel anymore), not by Kevin Feige. 2. Marvel is a small studio. It's not bigger like Warner Bros., or Fox or Sony. This is what people must learn. They produce movies with bank loans. If they flop a movie, they're in trouble! And they can't pay bigger payments to all this star, they seriously can't. This is why Norton was fired. Surely Norton wants more payment and don't want to sign the multi-contract thing. 3. Iron Man 2. This is the only Marvel's fault. Because they make Iron Man 2 after Edgar Wright's Ant-Man was postpone. Like a replacement. But it's true also that Favreau is a comedy director. His "Iron Man" movies are full comedy and lack of action (remember the final fight in both movies?). So I think what he want it's an action comedy. But while Iron Man was good, Iron Man 2 was meh. |
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