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Old 12-14-2010, 11:00 PM   #176
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There is a bit if irony about Favreau leaving his spot to direct Ironman 3 since he had no problem working on Cowboys&Aliens which is an adaption of a graphic novel and which had a built in fanbase before the movie was made.


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Old 12-14-2010, 11:01 PM   #177
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he didn't leave because of it being a comic book....what irony?

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Old 12-14-2010, 11:05 PM   #178
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I'm not happy to read about Favreau's departure. And I thought that Iron Man 2 was a step down from the original.

But please, let's all stop exaggerating here. IM2 was not a horrible movie; overall I would still give it a "thumbs up." It didn't tear the box office apart like The Dark Knight but it still made over $300 million, and mainstream audience polls like Cinemascore show that people liked it. And what's this talk about IM2 being an "infomercial for the Avengers?" That sounds like total fanboy hyperbole. Nick Fury showed up in the middle of the film, but he didn't even mention the Avengers then. We just got a few brief lines at the end about Tony being considered for membership, and the after-credits scene with Thor's hammer. IM2 had its problems but being flooded with Avengers isn't one of them.

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Old 12-14-2010, 11:08 PM   #179
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It's all BS because we knew it was happening already. All of that stuff was IN Iron Man. They set up SHIELD and Nick Fury in Iron Man. As well as the Avengers Initiative and everyone loved.

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There is a bit if irony about Favreau leaving his spot to direct Ironman 3 since he had no problem working on Cowboys&Aliens which is an adaption of a graphic novel and which had a built in fanbase before the movie was made.
I'm not sure that irony is the right word, but you can't compare C&A to the expectations (and baggage) an IM3 comes with.

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Old 12-14-2010, 11:12 PM   #181
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he didn't leave because of it being a comic book....what irony?
What I was trying to get across is that since it's based on a source material,fans of it are going to have expectations regarding the C&A movie,the fans who have read the graphic novel for it that is. He acted as if certain people won't have expectations for the movie and so going off of that one problem he might as well just stick with doing movies that aren't based on an existing source material if that one problem bugs him so much.

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Old 12-14-2010, 11:13 PM   #182
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I think studio interference and timing issues are probably what caused him to drop out. I liked IM2 but wanted to see something separate from the Avengers for IM3. I think Favreau would of delivered and now it's up in the air.

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Old 12-14-2010, 11:15 PM   #183
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I'm not happy to read about Favreau's departure. And I thought that Iron Man 2 was a step down from the original.

But please, let's all stop exaggerating here. IM2 was not a horrible movie; overall I would still give it a "thumbs up." It didn't tear the box office apart like The Dark Knight but it still made over $300 million, and mainstream audience polls like Cinemascore show that people liked it. And what's this talk about IM2 being an "infomercial for the Avengers?" That sounds like total fanboy hyperbole. Nick Fury showed up in the middle of the film, but he didn't even mention the Avengers then. We just got a few brief lines at the end about Tony being considered for membership, and the after-credits scene with Thor's hammer. IM2 had its problems but being flooded with Avengers isn't one of them.
Its all been exaggerated. If you actually count how much time is spent on the avengers its only the brief reference to New Mexico, the ending, and the after credits. That's all 3, 4 minutes tops.

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I'm not sure that irony is the right word, but you can't compare C&A to the expectations (and baggage) an IM3 comes with.

I wasn't even trying to compare them in terms of what their expectations are and what they will be. I didn't touch on the baggage that Ironman 3 has either and I also didn't draw differences or parallels in terms of baggage and expectations between the movies.


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Old 12-15-2010, 12:01 AM   #185
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I saw this earlier and I'm disappointed that Mr. Favreau won't be doing a third "Iron Man", but after seeing the second, it seemed that he had less control over it than the first. I really, REALLY hope this doesn't go the "X-Men: The Last Straw" route and have the third film be the weakest installment due to a new director who didn't do as good of a job as his predecessor.

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What I was trying to get across is that since it's based on a source material,fans of it are going to have expectations regarding the C&A movie,the fans who have read the graphic novel for it that is. He acted as if certain people won't have expectations for the movie and so going off of that one problem he might as well just stick with doing movies that aren't based on an existing source material if that one problem bugs him so much.
Fans? Let's be honest, that fan base isn't exactly big, besides Fevreau has already said it was C&A in name only and the most of the story has got nothing to do with the comic, that film is based off the concept more than the original.

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Fans? Let's be honest, that fan base isn't exactly big, besides Fevreau has already said it was C&A in name only and the most of the story has got nothing to do with the comic, that film is based off the concept more than the original.
I was already aware that the fanbase for C&A isn't big. Thanks for pointing the other stuff out to me.

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Hopefully Marvel will select another talented director that respects the source material. The first thing I thought when I heard that Fav wasnt coming back is "Here comes the cursed third movie in a series," but I try to be optimistic. So we'll see.
I wouldn't mind, but the fact that Marvel seems to think "cheaper" is better really makes me think they aren't exactly looking for quality but rather someone who is just "capable".

Terrible way to approach an already established series.

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I respect him for his decision....regardless of what project he's doing next. I'd be pretty concerned with Marvel's leading up to the Avengers dictating what the next IM movie would have to be, as well, if I were him. I think he's more than done his part for Marvel, and he should take whatever opportunities he wants that are available to him now. Would've been nice to see him wrap it up, but at least we got two really good ones.

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Old 12-15-2010, 02:53 AM   #190
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First no Ed Norton in Avengers, and now Jon Favreau's not directing Iron Man 3. WTF is going on, Marvel?

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Marvel better hope and pray that financially and critically, Thor and Captain America are runaway hits...because if they're not, what's the point of the Avengers then?

This whole thing is about Marvel's creative and business practices.

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First no Ed Norton in Avengers, and now Jon Favreau's not directing Iron Man 3. WTF is going on, Marvel?
Nothin', Hollywood industry. Ed Norton was not returning for money issues, Favreau is not for his personal decision. He's a comedic director and wants to come back to family movies. I don't shame on him for that. It's not Marvel's fault this time. Stop blaming out everytime.

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It is disappointing thats for sure since he has always had such enthusiasm for the movie series. Hopefully his replacement will be just as good


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Um...I thought he was Iron Man 3 because he's doing Magic Kingdom.
That's what the latest interview states, yeah.

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To mme he dropped the ball in IM2. The first one had been brilliant but the second one was boring and uninteresting to the extreme so it's not like I'm crying over this. Who knows what a Favreau's third IM movie would be. I don't even know what to m,ake of him as a IM movies director actually. Well the first one is still one of the best superhero movies for me.

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I find it funny that people call IM2 horrible, when, so many people I've talked to to loved it. I know I did. Was it as good as the first? Not 100%, but almost. ALso,I'm in the group tht thinks IM2 was not an infomercial for the Avengers. However, IM3 could have turned out that way if everything was going to go Marvel's way. Now, I love the Avengers references and hints at the end of Iron Man 1 and 2. However, I think that these films should stay in the "Iron Man film" zone and not "Avengers" zone. It should have Avengers references, but it's still an Iron Man film.

Now, Favreau isn't doing IM3 and it actually makes me really sad because i think he did an incredible job with 1 and 2. I wanted to see how he would translate Mandarin from the comics onto the big screen.

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This whole thing is about Marvel's creative and business practices.
I think the whole point has been this single universe, and when you do something like that with so many characters and so many creative teams involved with each character it starts to become a bit of a mess. Here's the bigger issue, Avenger's will already be underway before Thor and Cap are released, possibly be finished even, that to me is ludicrous, in fact I'd say it's down right reckless.

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I think the whole point has been this single universe, and when you do something like that with so many characters and so many creative teams involved with each character it starts to become a bit of a mess. Here's the bigger issue, Avenger's will already be underway before Thor and Cap are released, possibly be finished even, that to me is ludicrous, in fact I'd say it's down right reckless.
It really is.

Joss Whedon probably already knows how Thor and Captain America are going to end so he could technically still make a pretty good Avenger film.

I think at this point all three of these films (Thor, CA, and The Avengers) have to stand out as its own distinctive and sustained story. If all of them accomplish this then Marvel would still be in the clear.

What I fear is that they've turned each of these films into a lead up into the next on, sort of like Iron Man II that might not be the right move IMO. It will get cluttered and lessen the impact of the character to the audience if we don't really care that they are involved then that could lead to a somewhat lousy film.

I know its to early to speculate but its warranted.

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I think the people being emotional about this need to get over it.

I think recently Favreau has shown that he's sort of done with Iron Man and ready to move on.

For starters these things:

1. Favreau didn't want to do Demon in A Bottle. According to Bob Layton, RDJ really wants to do it, but Favreau does not.

2. Favreau doesn't want to do stories that have types of magical or fantasy stories in the Iron Man realm, so nothing that isn't tech-based or isn't realistic. He couldn't really get over that hump and I think that's why he wasn't picked for Avengers either.

3. He's got lots of other projects lined up right now, so he should be fine.

4. Its just, he just hasn't acted serious about wanting to lead and be the visionary for the franchise or other Marvel movies. I think he basically had his take and he's stepping aside now. What is wrong with that?

I think the only thing that would hurt the franchise is losing Robert Downey Jr.
Exactly, normally I'd be up in arms about this, ala Ed Norton's departure, but maybe, just maybe this could turn out good.

And also, Favs was also vastly afraid to do Mandarin.

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It's a shame he's leaving...I hope whoever steps in can keep the same feel and quality of the first two. Oh and I thought Iron Man 2 was a huge step up from the first...you actually get to see more of Iron Man (go figure) in the film. It's just an overall better film.

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