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Old 12-28-2010, 01:43 AM   #76
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Individual songs?
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Old 12-28-2010, 01:47 AM   #77
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i really liked the music from Aladdin. The Lion King has a great score, and i have to admit that i like Elton John's "Can You Feel The Love"

i think one of the most underrated movies is The Great Mouse Detective. i really like that film, and it's a great Disney interpretation of Sherlock Holmes. the bad guy in the film was voiced by non other than Vincent Price

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What about the music folks? Favourites?
Aladdin and Lion King are the best. The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast are too Broadway-ish for my tastes. Aladdin has a great Jazzy/Cab Calloway inspired sound that's fantastic. Plus, we have to give kudos to A Whole New World. It's not easy to pull off a Pop Ballad that everyone can respect and admire. Most people don't remember that it was a hit single that won the Grammy for Song of the Year.

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The Lion King is a triumph in film music. Hans Zimmer, before he became a sell-out, was a brilliant composer and used the African sound to full effect. That was very nicely balanced with pop songs by Elton John and Tim Rice. And, as mentioned earlier, the highlight is the opening scene featuring the Circle of Life. It's easily the greatest musical moment in the entire history of Disney animation.

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Gotta say Lion King wins it for me in terms of score and music. The moment 'Circle of Life' starts you know exactly where you are. Other films are good too but not quite the same level. Although, what's not to love about 'Under the Sea'? That song has some fantastic wordplay going for it.

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Score or Song.
I'd have to say 'Be Prepared', 'Arabian nights' and 'Never had a friend like me'.

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Slight side note but does anyone know why Esmeralda failed to make the 'Princess' product lineup?

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She doesn't pluck her eyebrows. So Disney gave her the hand.

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For me it's Aladdin and The Lion King. Aladdin has such an energy and wit, and The Lion King is just, well, it's just immaculate storytelling. The songs in both are just tops.

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For me the it's Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, Lion King, The Little Mermaid and Hunchback of Notre Dame. I think the first three explain for themselves, but Little Mermaid gets a tip of the hat for starting the DR and Hunchback just has some amazing music. I could care less about the HOND film but the music is just .

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Slight side note but does anyone know why Esmeralda failed to make the 'Princess' product lineup?
She was way too ****ty. Also she's not a princess.

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while its far from my favorite from disney, it was always a bummer that the emperor's new groove got totally over looked. that movie is so funny!

but beauty and the beast was always my favorite. all the others are great too. i never did see mulan though.

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Hercules and tarzan two of my all time favorites...both dvds the soundtracks..incredible

"Zero to hero" then "go the distance" from hercules


phill collins on tarzan....cant get much better

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Beauty & The Beast, Aladdin, and The Lion King. Fantastic movies all of them.

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and I still feel that Alan Menken defined the Disney Renaissance, and pretty much any one of his songs from TLM, BatB and Aladdin are classic and amazing.
The reason why Alan Menken's work on those movies was so great because Howard Ashman was his lyricist for these films (Ashman wrote the lyrics for several songs in "Aladdin" before he died in 1991). Menken's work with Glenn Slater, Rice and Stephen Schwartz ranged from good to okay -- but his work with Ashman was beyond compare.

I have no doubt that if Ashman was still living, the Disney Renaissance would've lasted a lot longer and probably kept the 2-D animation department in business. Ashman was a gift for Disney, it was a shame he passed when he did.

The Little Mermaid, Aladdin and The Lion King are my favorites of the Disney Renaissance. The first because it was the first ever Disney movie I'd ever seen, and it has this enchanting quality to it. And TLK holds a special place in my heart because it was the first Disney movie I saw in theaters.

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She was way too ****ty. Also she's not a princess.
Mulan and Pocahontas weren't either but now you mention it she probably was more blatantly seductive and bit more 'adult' than the other female characters so I guess it stands to reason why she wouldn't be included. I really wish Disney had the balls to have killed her off in Hunchback.

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Mulan and Pocahontas weren't either but now you mention it she probably was more blatantly seductive and bit more 'adult' than the other female characters so I guess it stands to reason why she wouldn't be included. I really wish Disney had the balls to have killed her off in Hunchback.
Pocahontas is the chief's daughter, so she can be grouped into the Disney Princesses. As for Mulan, this is from Wikipedia:
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They really stretched for princess diversity there.

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Yeah, Mulan is a stretch, but it gives them an excuse to cover just about all the ethnic grounds for them I guess. Bunch of European girls, Asian, Arabic, Black, Native American, that pretty much ticks off all the groups. Just lacking a Latino girl.

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Yeah, Mulan is a stretch, but it gives them an excuse to cover just about all the ethnic grounds for them I guess. Bunch of European girls, Asian, Arabic, Black, Native American, that pretty much ticks off all the groups. Just lacking a Latino girl.
I remember there being a Michelle Rodriguez-type tough Latina in "Atlantis" but she was far from a princess. I think she was a mechanic, wasn't she?

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yea she was drizzle

kida should be a disney princess.... but i guess her costume was a bit too ****ty

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I love Aladdin, Lion King and Hercules.

Also the part where Tarzan holds up the leopard that killed his parents, and gives his trademark call, is pure badass!

I grew up with the likes of The Fox and The Hound, The Jungle Book, etc...

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Menken's work with Glenn Slater, Rice and Stephen Schwartz ranged from good to okay -- but his work with Ashman was beyond compare.
I disagree. His work with Tim Rice was just as good. Keep in mind that Rice also wrote the songs for Lion King and that soundtrack gives Menken some MAJOR competition.

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I saw "Waking Sleeping Beauty' and makes me sad that the Disney of old is mostly dead. However, Pixar gives off the same type of vibe that the old Disney of the renaissance had, so hope is not dead yet!

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I love my Pixar films but there's something old school about Disney animation that I find more appealing. Pixar films, whilst spectacular, tend to feel far more artificial to me, there's something about watching hand drawn illustration come to life that gives off a more organic and warm feeling. No disrespect to the 3D artists who put just as much time and effort into their films but 3D animation always comes across as way more mechanical, almost like the computer is doing a lot of the work. Maybe it's just the artist in me.

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The reason why Alan Menken's work on those movies was so great because Howard Ashman was his lyricist for these films (Ashman wrote the lyrics for several songs in "Aladdin" before he died in 1991). Menken's work with Glenn Slater, Rice and Stephen Schwartz ranged from good to okay -- but his work with Ashman was beyond compare.
I've gotta agree with Catman here that Menken's work with Rice equaled his work with Ashman. But yeah, Ashman's death was so tragic and came far too soon. It seemed like his journey with Disney was just beginning. Such a great loss to the world of movies and music in general.

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