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Old 01-24-2011, 07:25 AM   #1
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Default Does this film follow the X3 trilogy?

If not, what era does the whole X Men set up need to be in? Reason I ask - Havoc.

So he is supposed Cyclops younger brother. Is it possible that even though the film is set in the 1960's that this could be the era they are following and that Cyclops may appear in the 1960's too. That being said for other Xmen such as Ice man, Jean Grey etc?

I know the comics dont really have a specific timeline just something that fits with the artist at the time.

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Old 01-24-2011, 07:41 AM   #2
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already being mentioned in another thread, but no this film does not follow what X3 set up and Vaughn has said that in a recent interview. We don't know how "old" Havoc is in this film yet so speculation on where is Scott needs to wait after this film comes out.

if Havoc is in his teens then that means he was born in the 50s cause the films year is 1962, so possibilites on the whereabouts of Cyclops(man this feels like X3 all over again)could be their mom is pregnant w/him when Havoc is recruited or Scott could be a toddler, like 2 or 3 yrs old that would mean Scott was born in either '59/'60, so in the current trilogy Scott would be in his late 30s to 40s....or at the time Scott was not conceived yet...

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Old 01-24-2011, 07:43 AM   #3
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This will follow the X-Men's trilogy. Maybe also Wolverine: origins.

This is the Cinematography Universe, not the Comic-Book Universe, so somethin' will change, naturally. Havok in the movie is maybe the old Cyclops' brother or his father, I don't know.

But this follow the other movies. Beast is there as a young and one of the first X-men (remember in the third one he says he was an X-Men before "X-Men 1"), then it's set in 1962 with young Xavier, young Magneto and young Mystique. The only thing is that Moira is young too and in X3 she must be of the Xavier and Magneto's same age.

In First Class 2, surely, we'll see Cyclops, Jean, maybe Storm. And this will fit also with Wolverine's movie that it's set in late 1970. The only thing is that Emma Frost of Wolverine. Well, she has the same power and in trailers and spots they said she's Emma but in the "end credits" she's "Kayla's sister/Emma". Not "Emma Frost", and her surname was never tell.

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Old 01-24-2011, 07:48 AM   #4
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Basically, this film is a prequel to the existing trilogy (more so to X1 and X2 than X3 and Wolverine).

The next film seems likely to feature Cyclops, Jean, Storm (and others) and would have to be set in a later era.

If it features the Original Five, then it is going down the road of a reboot which, I guess, is possible too.

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Old 01-24-2011, 08:17 AM   #5
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I'd say, it does "follow" to a degree....
actually that’s not the best way to put it, as this post dates the events of original trilogy, you can't really say its “follows” it... as it happens before...?

with that said, (with this being set in a timeline that goes beyond anything that was referenced too in the other movies) they can, (an appear to be) take certain liberations with it...

so, tho, it is its own story and might establish somewhat of a new continues... and may not take every little detail or line from those movies in to consideration, but, that’s not to say it cancels out anything from the other movies...

if that makes sense...?

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Old 01-24-2011, 09:23 AM   #6
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I don't seem to understand people's difficulties with the concept that these films are a different entity than the comics. For obvious reasons (the X-Men are a huge ensemble of heroes) the creative minds behind the films decided it best to create a new, yet familiar mythology surrounding these characters. And as some of the films in the series have proven, that doesn't sacrifice the quality of the characters or story. It's the fifth movie in an ongoing series people, it's time for the realization to finally settle in.

And this is in no way an angry post directed at the thread starter.

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Old 01-24-2011, 10:42 AM   #7
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I don't seem to understand people's difficulties with the concept that these films are a different entity than the comics. For obvious reasons (the X-Men are a huge ensemble of heroes) the creative minds behind the films decided it best to create a new, yet familiar mythology surrounding these characters. And as some of the films in the series have proven, that doesn't sacrifice the quality of the characters or story. It's the fifth movie in an ongoing series people, it's time for the realization to finally settle in.
One has to wonder why. If the original x-men line-up and story up is not broke why try to fix it?

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ugh...they should have just rebooted this series with the original lineup of Beast, Cyclops, Jean, Angel, and Iceman

they pretty much had already screwed up the timeline with the past couple of movies and instead of fixing that mistake, they are just digging themselves a deeper hole

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One has to wonder why. If the original x-men line-up and story up is not broke why try to fix it?
The original line-up was changed for the film series in order to present a greater selection of characters from across the X-Men timeline. No one is saying it was broken, but what kind of film series would you have where you would have to wait two or three films or ten plus years to include fan favorites like Rogue or Storm. It was more practical to include these characters from the beginning, to create a new history of the X-Men. To paraphrase what someone said over on the CBR forums, who wants to watch a movie where Marvel Girl gets a nosebleed trying to levitate a book.

I think creating a new universe of X-Men, considering the grand scale of the characters was the only way to go.

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Old 01-24-2011, 11:16 AM   #10
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ugh...they should have just rebooted this series with the original lineup of Beast, Cyclops, Jean, Angel, and Iceman

they pretty much had already screwed up the timeline with the past couple of movies and instead of fixing that mistake, they are just digging themselves a deeper hole
Of course they did, they made the conscious decision to alter the X-Men's history. That was quite clear from the beginning...back in 2000...11 years ago.

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Old 01-24-2011, 10:58 PM   #11
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the only thing that gets me is that the first movie takes place in the near future. so to set this movie in the 60s kind of throws off the timeline that was set up in the first one.

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Old 01-24-2011, 11:57 PM   #12
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The X-Men timeline is going to be a difficult one to portray, thanks to Magneto's origin. Good luck having an X-Men movie set in modern times, with a pivotal character whose history is deeply rooted in the Holocaust.

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the only thing that gets me is that the first movie takes place in the near future. so to set this movie in the 60s kind of throws off the timeline that was set up in the first one.
Well not really. X-Men had a prologue in 1944 and then jumped to the not too distant future, the dates of the films can be played a loose.

Havoc, it'll be interesting to see what they with him, is still going to be Scott's brother or will he be related by different means i.e. uncle for the sake of the film narrative. Then again he may just as well not be related like they did with Juggernaut. Moira Mactaggert's inclusion is a bit of a problem, mostly because of the age she would be in X-Men: The Last Stand, in which she would be a really good looking 60-year-old. If the movie is good non of these things are going to matter all that much.

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Not really, I mean people are living longer healthier lives. Besides the X-Men films a partly science fiction, so the age thing could be written off as something to do with the mutation or what have you.

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Not really, I mean people are living longer healthier lives. Besides the X-Men films a partly science fiction, so the age thing could be written off as something to do with the mutation or what have you.
Longer and healthier lives? Barring any silliness, like being reverted to a baby or that all mutants live to be 200 years old, Magneto will be 100, or close to it, in the next decade. This is an issue future reboots are going to have to address if they want Magneto to maintain his comic book origin but keep the X-Men in the present day. This doesn't just affect Magneto either. It affects Professor Xavier, the timeline of their relationship/falling out, the foundation of the X-Men, etc.

This doesn't so much have to do with First Class (it's more of a general thought), but the issue is starting to rear it's head, as people are questioning why this movie takes place in the 1960s. Granted, it doesn't have to, but how long are people expecting Magneto and Xavier to be friends until they part ways and found their separate teams? For instance, if there is a reboot in 10 years, are people expecting Magneto and Xavier to meet in the 1930s or 40s and wait until 2020 to found the likes of the X-Men and Brotherhood???

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Old 01-25-2011, 06:07 AM   #15
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This is why I have asked if it needs to follow the x3 trilogy.

If not, why can't the brotherhood and xmen be set to new timelines, such as formation in the 70's. There is no need to keep everything to the previous films as the canon side of things doesnt seem to fit anyway.

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This is why I have asked if it needs to follow the x3 trilogy.

If not, why can't the brotherhood and xmen be set to new timelines, such as formation in the 70's. There is no need to keep everything to the previous films as the canon side of things doesnt seem to fit anyway.
Because everyone is going back to the 60s (again ) these days including Hollywood. That's the only reason why I think this time period was chosen and for obvious reasons Cyclops, Jean etc could not be included.

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Longer and healthier lives? Barring any silliness, like being reverted to a baby or that all mutants live to be 200 years old, Magneto will be 100, or close to it, in the next decade. This is an issue future reboots are going to have to address if they want Magneto to maintain his comic book origin but keep the X-Men in the present day. This doesn't just affect Magneto either. It affects Professor Xavier, the timeline of their relationship/falling out, the foundation of the X-Men, etc.

This doesn't so much have to do with First Class (it's more of a general thought), but the issue is starting to rear it's head, as people are questioning why this movie takes place in the 1960s. Granted, it doesn't have to, but how long are people expecting Magneto and Xavier to be friends until they part ways and found their separate teams? For instance, if there is a reboot in 10 years, are people expecting Magneto and Xavier to meet in the 1930s or 40s and wait until 2020 to found the likes of the X-Men and Brotherhood???
I have thought about this type of thing too. The only way I see explaining this (unless they go straight from the comic), is do an X3 type thing and switch Xaviers body at some point,and maybe with Magneto just make the statement that since he's so powerful maybe age isn't as big as a factor to a mutant like him??? (I know too much like Wolvie) But the only other way I can see them doing this is just somewhat glancing over the Holocaust inciddent in future movies. Maybe hint at something like that but never coming out and fully saying it. Or Maybe Xavier switches Mags body after some horrific event during their friendship?

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