The Immortal Iron Fist Thread - Part 1

[JewishHobbit]

Was Aaron the first or second writer on that series? I don't know anything about the run with Danny. I had bought the Civil War aftermath tie-in issues of the seies when Jack-O-Lantern's body was possessed by pieces of Lucifer. That was some good stuff and made me want to keep going on it, though I never did.

[TheCorpulent1]

I think it was Daniel Way and then Aaron. But I could be mixing up Ghost Rider series.

[JewishHobbit]

Way sounds right.

[NDX]

For the 2006 series, it was Daniel Way for the first 19 issues, Jason Aaron for the issues 20 - 35 and the Heaven's On Fire mini. I believe it was Simon Spurrier who did the Ghost Rider: Danny Ketch: Addict mini that accompanies the series. I don't know who wrote the 2 annuals.

In the 90s, it was Howard Mackie and Ivan Valez, Jr. (who I still curse to this day).

[JewishHobbit]

Yeah, I liked that Howard Mackie run. I followed it up to just shy of that big 19-part crossover. And Way is the run I'm wanting to try out.

Thanks NDX

[NDX]

No problem. If it's one thing I know, it's Ghost Rider since the 90s. Mackie's run had a lot of ups and downs. The first 28 issues, the Midnight Sons crossover and the Spirits of Vengeance spinoff's first 15 issues was the best issues, for me. The 30s was mainly filler, and the 40s the stories and crossovers picked up with Road to Vengeance: The Missing Link, Midnight Massacre and the horrible Siege of Darkness (the **** man, seriously?). And back to mainly filler for the next 25 issues, Mackie heads off to write Spider-Man and Ivan Valez comes in and ****s it all up.

Then that Hammer Lane mini most try to forget, Ennis's (for me) lackluster mini Road to Damnation, and to Way's run, which I actually prefer over Aaron's run. I like Aaron, but like with his Wolverine, it was just too over the top at times for me. I just didn't like it at first. Reading it monthly didn't work at all. Omnibus works better, but still, I find Way's run much better.


... uhh, yeah. So, Iron Fist everyone!

[JewishHobbit]

Aaron should write an Iron Fist ongoing.

[Colossal Spoons]

Eh, Aaron's a bit inconsistent. I'd want Fraction back.

[JewishHobbit]

I don't want Fraction anymore unless he's partnered with Bru again.

I think Iron Fist fits well with what Aaron does, though I think Remender would do best. He wrote the one Thunderbolts issue with Iron Fist and Luke Cage and he did a fantastic job with him as a character. The issue was probably my favorite of the whole Dark Reign run.

[Colossal Spoons]

I forgot Bru co-wrote that with him. Yeah I essentially want that entire creative team back; Aja included.

Remender would be interesting...

[NDX]

I'm burnt out on Aaron's writing. Just barely tolerate Wolverine and the X-Men. I'd rather he stay away from Iron Fist. Unless he tackled it like he did Punisher MAX, more realistic and less grindhousey.

[Colossal Spoons]

I love WatXM but his recent run on Incredible Hulk was a chore to read.

[NDX]

I gave that up after 7 issues. It started off fine, I liked the direction, and then it just went into a giant cluster****y circle. I was done. One of the reasons I'm burnt out on Aaron.

[Colossal Spoons]

You gonna give Waid's run a shot? Yu's art turns some people off, but I dig it.

[NDX]

Yu's is one of my top artists, so I'm definitely going to give the first arc a read. See if it's worth following after that. Doing that with all those "Marvel NOW!" titles. Although I see me dropping a lot of them very quickly (which saddens because I know 2 of those titles with be Nova and GotG).

[Colossal Spoons]

I really wanna know if Loeb's Nova will have Richard Rider turn up eventually. I get that this new kid is in the Spidey cartoon but I need him to go away quickly.

GoTG was looking good until the inclusion of Iron Man and an attempt to make it more relevant to Earth.

[TheCorpulent1]

Aaron's first issue of Thor: God of Thunder was awesome, so he's okay in my book. I'm also still enjoying Wolverine and the X-Men. Didn't bother with his Hulk run because I heard it was about the Hulk and Banner going to war, which is stupid to me. I'm very much looking forward to Waid's run, though.

[NDX]

I have no faith in GotG after their appearance in Avengers Assemble. Iron Man or not. And apparently Richard Rider's story has been told. For him, dead is dead. Even though Thanos and Star-Lord can come back all they want. Because MOVIE!

[Colossal Spoons]

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

Aaron's first issue of Thor: God of Thunder was awesome, so he's okay in my book. I'm also still enjoying Wolverine and the X-Men. Didn't bother with his Hulk run because I heard it was about the Hulk and Banner going to war, which is stupid to me. I'm very much looking forward to Waid's run, though.

Nice, I really hope he does a good job w/ Thor. I only wish WaTXM would get more serious. It feels a bit irrelevant to me.

Originally Posted by NDX

I have no faith in GotG after their appearance in Avengers Assemble. Iron Man or not. And apparently Richard Rider's story has been told. For him, dead is dead. Even though Thanos and Star-Lord can come back all they want. Because MOVIE!

I wanted no parts of Avengers Assemble b/c I dislike the movie roster. Shame about Rider, if he really is dead for good. My resentment towards this new kid just got stronger.

[NDX]

I bet they won't even explain how this Nova got his powers. Or how his suit looks like Garthan Saal's.

[TheCorpulent1]

Doesn't really matter to me either way. Loeb's writing the new Nova, which automatically equates to my not reading it.

[Mad Ones]

I don't really like how the new Nova is being pushed. I keep reading about his amazing introduction in AvX and how important he was. But he felt so shoehorned into the story. And he didn't add much.

[NDX]

Oh, yeah, he was in that story, wasn't he?

[Colossal Spoons]

Tackled the Phoenix and did nothing else.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, he also warned everyone the Phoenix was coming in the first place. Remember? Way back in the first Point One one-shot? No? I don't blame you.