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Old 10-23-2010, 09:48 AM   #76
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We get on the air and beg for money from EVERYONE. What's the difference in taking it from a high profile supporter?


We had just finished our local pledge drive. I can't remember if it's national pledge drive time or not.



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Soros is a bastard....anyone that takes money from the man, IMO, deserves little respect from me.

Sorry, I cannot stand the man. Not even a little bit.

And if anyone thinks he didn't have something to do with this, they are naive....at the least.

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Well I can't stand Glenn Beck but I'd stand up and light a match if he supported Public Radio.




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I can't stand Glenn Beck either, he's a bastard as well....

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lmao, are you kidding? really?

Air America ring a bell?
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Federal grants provide less than 2 percent — or $3.3 million — of NPR's $166 million annual budget. It is funded primarily by its affiliates, corporate sponsors and major donors.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101022/...alyst_fired_64

Do you know of a way to find the rest of the funding break-down?

EDIT: Here's a pretty good one.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...funding/65011/


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Old 10-23-2010, 11:34 AM   #81
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101022/...alyst_fired_64

Do you know of a way to find the rest of the funding break-down?

EDIT: Here's a pretty good one.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...funding/65011/
Thanks, I'll take a look at those...

The thing is, I think they are going to lose a large number of their private donors over this as well.... I honestly, did not think that people would get as pissed off as they are. I was ticked, but that didn't amount to much, along with other teacher friends that have pulled their donations, we can't say that that will actually hurt too much, but damn....the backlash has been crazy.

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Old 10-24-2010, 01:32 PM   #83
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Ok, I can agree that many people are untrusting of the federal government, but I wonder what your definition of fascism is. It was defined to me as a political system that takes root in countries with a large middle class and is based on fear of Communism. Minorities complain of of social and economic disparity and are persecuted as enemies of the state.
Fascism is a political belief that stresses the importance of community as justification for totalitarian government. It differs from Communism and Socialism by practicing corporatism - the "third way" economics of a mixed economy utilizing principals of capitalism and socialism.

It utilizes welfare, healthcare and other public services in order to placate the populace.

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Old 10-24-2010, 01:34 PM   #84
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Well I work for NPR and if I went on the air and told everyone that every time I get on the bus and see a black person I put my hand on my bag because I feel nervous, I'd probably get fired.


Where are all these Libertarians who claim that a boss can fire you for whatever reason they want too? Are you absent from this argument because it's NPR?
Yes.

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Soros is a bastard....anyone that takes money from the man, IMO, deserves little respect from me.

Sorry, I cannot stand the man. Not even a little bit.

And if anyone thinks he didn't have something to do with this, they are naive....at the least.
I hope you feel the same about Rupert Murdoch.

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Yes.
Forgive me for not reading the past several pages, but are you saying you are being openly hypocritical on this issue because the organization in question is one you ideologically disagree with?

If so...well at least you can be honest about hypocrisy. If not, sorry for the confusion.

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Forgive me for not reading the past several pages, but are you saying you are being openly hypocritical on this issue because the organization in question is one you ideologically disagree with?

If so...well at least you can be honest about hypocrisy. If not, sorry for the confusion.
It is not an issue of ideology in the sense that NPR is not a libertarian slanted network (for example it would be a totally different issue if MSNBC fired Juan), but an issue of ideology in the sense that NPR is a public body, welfare for the educated - an extension of government.

It is easy to defend the ability of a private network to censure anchors, stifle conflicting opinion and employ whomever they deem fit. Their right is an inherent aspect of ownership.

NPR does not share such rights due to the fact that We, the People are the owners.

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I hope you feel the same about Rupert Murdoch.
Fox Radio is not receiving money from the government, if they are please point me in the right direction and I will be happy to check it out. Also, they have never asked me for a donation. Who have they fired that was "unpredictable"?

Unless of course you want to say that fired E.D. Hill which they pretty much did for her "terrorist fist bump" comment about the President and the First Lady.

Why wasn't Cokie Roberts fired for this quote
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Actually, Beck is worse than a clown. He's more like a terrorist who believes he has discovered the One True Faith, and condemns everyone else as a heretic. And that makes him something else as well -- a traitor to the American values he professes so loudly to defend."
You can agree or disagree with the statement, but it CERTAINLY shows a bias that the CEO so railed against as the reason for Williams firing.or this....

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if there was “retributive justice” in the world the (admittedly loathsome) Jesse Helms would “get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it.”
Soros is ALL OVER THIS FIRING.....

From Media Matters...

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News that Juan Williams’ contract with NPR was terminated over comments he made about Muslims while appearing on Fox News shines a spotlight on the radio network’s evergreen controversy: Its continued affiliation with Fox News. Specifically, NPR’s Mara Liasson and her long-running association with Fox News has often raised questions. This might be the proper time for NPR to finally address that thorny issue.
And please don't start with the ****ing Fox vs. every other god damn media outlet out there....

I have listened to NPR probably longer than you have been alive, and have defended it on this forum time and time again. ASK VampElvis he and I had a long running debate in PM over NPR, and my defending it.

If there is SUCH A HUGE PROBLEM WITH BIAS AND GIVING OF ONE'S OPINION ON NPR, THEN THEIR ****ING CEO SHOULD BE FIRED FOR THIS.....the NPR CEO issued a comment that implied that Juan Williams needed to see a psychiatrist. Which is to say that that this woman – who just fired the only black journalist on her entire network

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It blows my mind sometimes that instead of giving a solid rebuttal some automatically go to the Hannity and Colmes style of debate.


and a few more for emphasis....

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Fox Radio is not receiving money from the government, if they are please point me in the right direction and I will be happy to check it out. Also, they have never asked me for a donation. Who have they fired that was "unpredictable"?
Soros owns and runs NPR?

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It is not an issue of ideology in the sense that NPR is not a libertarian slanted network (for example it would be a totally different issue if MSNBC fired Juan), but an issue of ideology in the sense that NPR is a public body, welfare for the educated - an extension of government.

It is easy to defend the ability of a private network to censure anchors, stifle conflicting opinion and employ whomever they deem fit. Their right is an inherent aspect of ownership.

NPR does not share such rights due to the fact that We, the People are the owners.
Fair enough. I do appreciate public radio and television, but to each their own. NPR humiliated themselves this week and I do not think Juan should have been fired. I never cared for Williams, but he did not do anything that deserved termination and I imagine the fact that he goes on shows like O'Reilly, Hannity and Fox News Sunday to be the liberal whipping boy is why they really fired him...and they shouldn't have.

With that said, I don't want to dismantle a genuinely solid news organization that usually avoids sensationalism because...Fox News wants to end it. But just my opinion.

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Soros owns and runs NPR?
Soros gave 1.8 million for NPR to hire 100 new reporters....they actually have a name for these reporters, but I can't remember what the name is because I've never heard of it before.

You don't have to own something to have a mass amount of influence in it. Come on DA you know that....


edit: They are called "enterprise journalists".... I have no idea what that is...

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Soros gave 1.8 million for NPR to hire 100 new reporters....they actually have a name for these reporters, but I can't remember what the name is because I've never heard of it before.

You don't have to own something to have a mass amount of influence in it. Come on DA you know that....


edit: They are called "enterprise journalists".... I have no idea what that is...
I was unaware. I will look into this. If he actually influenced who they hired or had a list on his donation, I would be upset. They do run off of donations, but donations should not reflect content.

With that said, Murdoch is a media mogul who uses his empire to influence elections and donates $10 million to NRGA to influence how districts are drawn up for the next decade. As with Soros, just because it is legal does not make it ethical.

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As 1,000s of corporations do, everyday, but he IS NOT using my taxpayer money to fund his empire. It is his money, how he wants to spend it is up to him. FAR, FAR, FAR different than something like ACORN, or NPR.

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I'm pretty sure Soros has nothing to do with The Splendid Table, Beale Street Caravan, All Things Considered, Fresh Aire Weekend, Car Talk, Marketplace Money, The Lost Tracks, or A Prairie Home Companion.


Just a few of the daily shows I air that wouldn't be around if it weren't for Public Radio. And I sure as Hell wouldn't want to throw out the baby with the bath water.


Public Radio is made possible by listeners LIKE YOU! Won't you support your station?


Heh. Should I be on the clock for those last lines?




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Never said to throw it out, simply that I'm not paying for it.

Nope, I will simply hit the button to the next news station....

Just like after I watch Cavuto, I change the channel because Beck is on next and I would like to keep my lunch down.

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I was unaware. I will look into this. If he actually influenced who they hired or had a list on his donation, I would be upset. They do run off of donations, but donations should not reflect content.

With that said, Murdoch is a media mogul who uses his empire to influence elections and donates $10 million to NRGA to influence how districts are drawn up for the next decade. As with Soros, just because it is legal does not make it ethical.
NRGA? My tax do they get any of my tax money? As in, is it government funded?

I googled but only got one thing with that info....and the site is blocked at my school.

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Never said to throw it out, simply that I'm not paying for it.

Nope, I will simply hit the button to the next news station....

Just like after I watch Cavuto, I change the channel because Beck is on next and I would like to keep my lunch down.
But if you don't contribute then everything else good about NPR gets thrown out as well. How is that not throwing out the baby? Is this one instance of a large donor and your theories that he had something to do with it worth cutting NPR's funding?



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It is not an issue of ideology in the sense that NPR is not a libertarian slanted network (for example it would be a totally different issue if MSNBC fired Juan), but an issue of ideology in the sense that NPR is a public body, welfare for the educated - an extension of government.

It is easy to defend the ability of a private network to censure anchors, stifle conflicting opinion and employ whomever they deem fit. Their right is an inherent aspect of ownership.

NPR does not share such rights due to the fact that We, the People are the owners.
NPR receives no direct federal funding. About 10% of its revenue comes from so-called "Grants and Contributions," and an argument could *possibly* be made that an additional 4% comes from CPB (but that would be a stretch, and that is also indirect).

NPR is an independent, self-supporting media organization.

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Lol...the idea that someone will avoid Glen Beck, but also actually choose to watch Cavuto and think nothing of it is hilarious to me.

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Lol...the idea that someone will avoid Glen Beck, but also actually choose to watch Cavuto and think nothing of it is hilarious to me.
I am sure it is rolf worthy to her if you watch Olbermann or Mathews.

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