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Old 06-26-2011, 11:00 AM   #276
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If this did take place in Gen Hope, then there would be the usual complaints of Wolverine being overexposed, taking over another book, etc....

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GH could come with a lifetime supply of bacon and I wouldn't read it. Cable and Nightcrawler died to save this girl and she's done nothing of importance yet. Here's hoping Wanda or Jean can fix the mutant population.
I think defeating Bastion, saving like 90% of whats left of the mutant population and part of the population of SF, and jumpstarting new activations qualifies as doing something of importance


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Old 06-26-2011, 11:01 AM   #277
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I just dont understand why Dr Strange didnt undo it....im sure his job as sorceror supreme to not allow crazy spells to affect reality

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Old 06-26-2011, 11:15 AM   #278
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He tried to prevent the House of M from happening and he failed. His magic wasnt capable of undoing the damage that Wanda had caused

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Old 06-26-2011, 11:24 AM   #279
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I think defeating Bastion, saving like 90% of whats left of the mutant population and part of the population of SF, and jumpstarting new activations qualifies as doing something of importance
Ultimately, all that was for was to get Hope her own book. Her name is never brought up in any of the other X-books(I don't read Adjectiveless so she might be talked bout there). Schism looks like it'll actually have some lasting impact so I'm excited for that.

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He tried to prevent the House of M from happening and he failed. His magic wasnt capable of undoing the damage that Wanda had caused
Ha, yeah. Cuz it was "chaos magic"

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Old 06-26-2011, 11:25 AM   #280
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Wolverine's already been in Generation Hope, and nobody **** about it.

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Old 06-26-2011, 11:28 AM   #281
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He tried to prevent the House of M from happening and he failed. His magic wasnt capable of undoing the damage that Wanda had caused
i didnt read House of M...im allergic to Bendis writing

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Old 06-26-2011, 11:30 AM   #282
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Bendis hates Dr. Strange, and it was embarrassing how he nerfed his power(and has continued to do so) in HoM

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Old 06-26-2011, 11:44 AM   #283
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Bendis doesn't understand how to write characters who're capable of doing anything more than beating up ninjas or thugs. Dr. Strange's powers were far too complicated, so he had to be brought down to Spider-Man and Luke Cage's level.

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Old 06-26-2011, 01:27 PM   #284
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Ultimately, all that was for was to get Hope her own book. Her name is never brought up in any of the other X-books(I don't read Adjectiveless so she might be talked bout there). Schism looks like it'll actually have some lasting impact so I'm excited for that.
She appared in an arc of Legacy (Reconstruction) and played a lead role in the Uncanny/Steve Rogers/Namor crossover. Its good that she isnt being overexposed. I dont know whats being done with her in GH, as Im not reading that but I get the feeling that they do have bigger plans for her which they just havent revealed yet. Second Coming really didnt feel like the end of her saga. There's that whole Phoenix issue which hasnt been explored

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Bendis doesn't understand how to write characters who're capable of doing anything more than beating up ninjas or thugs. Dr. Strange's powers were far too complicated, so he had to be brought down to Spider-Man and Luke Cage's level.
It was sad watching him join the New Avengers, fighting street level thugs and going on the run with them

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Old 06-26-2011, 01:33 PM   #285
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Has anyone tried to help Hope harness and control her powers in any comic since Second Coming ended? You'd figure a mutant with the power to mimic anyone else's powers at Phoenix levels would be under heavy study and training.

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Old 06-26-2011, 01:41 PM   #286
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That doesn't even appear to be her power anymore, as Gillen writes it.

But it's okay, because Gillen is the superwriter who's going to save Uncanny X-Men, right?

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Old 06-26-2011, 02:55 PM   #288
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All the "Ooh, aah, Matt Fraction sucks and look how better Uncanny is since Kieron started co-writing it it'll be great once he takes over!" people.

They exist among us.

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Old 06-26-2011, 02:57 PM   #289
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What is Hopes powers now then?

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Old 06-26-2011, 02:58 PM   #290
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There were people saying the book got better during the story where the Sublime Corp gave everyone the flu and Dazzler & Pixie spent every issue saying "TIDY!" over and over?

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Old 06-26-2011, 03:17 PM   #291
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What is Hopes powers now then?
I couldn't tell you. The only "power" she's really used is saving new mutants from their own powers. The last issue started to explore that she's somehow warping her team's perceptions of her into an unconditional love, which at least has an interesting premise for explanation.

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There were people saying the book got better during the story where the Sublime Corp gave everyone the flu and Dazzler & Pixie spent every issue saying "TIDY!" over and over?
The annoying parts were just more Fraction stupidity and the good parts were all Gillen. Makes sense right?

Does this really surprise you? General comic fan consensus is that Matt Fraction writes horrible comics, every single one.

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Fraction is a good writer (I loved The Order and Immortal Iron Fist), but he couldn't handle the X-Men to save his life. He didn't know how to handle the cast of characters, half of his storylines felt phoned in, and he left plot holes everywhere. Mock me for the way I talked smack about Fraction all you want, but I still have an insanely long list of all the things wrong with "Sisterhood."

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Have I ever mocked you, Manic?

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Yes. Yes you have. And you've been mocking people who complain about Fraction in general.

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You wound me.

If ever I've mocked you, it's only because I . Just like when I mock Spoons!

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Old 06-26-2011, 08:00 PM   #297
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Aw Spoons, you know I wub wu.

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Old 06-27-2011, 12:55 PM   #298
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Can't we all just agree that fraction and gillen's X-Men arcs have BOTH sucked??

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Old 06-27-2011, 08:36 PM   #299
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No, because Fraction's was not as bad as it's commonly made out to be. I'm not saying it was perfect, and I'm not saying he's a great X-Men writer, but so far we've taken a step down.

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I dropped Fractions run multiple times hoping it would get better, but it didn't. So far i've liked Gilliens first arc, huge improvement for me.


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