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Old 01-16-2017, 02:53 AM   #701
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PM me as well please...don't really feel like digging through 4chan right now...

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Old 01-16-2017, 11:58 AM   #702
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Old 01-18-2017, 06:40 AM   #703
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Old 01-18-2017, 09:35 AM   #704
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Latest issue was... well... disappointing, to say the least.

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Old 01-18-2017, 10:33 AM   #705
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well that issue just pissed me off

ben telling villains to kill peter? **** off Slott you bonehead

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Old 01-18-2017, 09:24 PM   #706
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... Yeah did not love the last two chapters of Dead No More. Really inconsistent characterization in order to serve the plot and generate elevated conflict.

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Old 01-18-2017, 09:52 PM   #707
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On the small plus side, that may be done purposely to tie into Ben's new book. Hope? Maybe?

If not, though, then Slott can go drink orange juice after brushing his teeth!

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Old 01-18-2017, 10:40 PM   #708
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Just read the latest issues. For those complaining...

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
Yeah, I get Ben doing this out of some misplaced sense of saving people, but he wouldn't order Peter killed (unless he is that crazy that he thinks bringing him back will convince him). Maybe Miles Warren/Jackal IS involved somehow, maybe like the whole Peter/Ock thing from Superior. I think I have to reread some issues, but if Ben is the one bringing people back, who brought him back?

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Old 01-18-2017, 11:08 PM   #709
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OK, just looked back at Ben's return.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
Alright, maybe Ben is like this because of all the deaths. Or maybe it is some Superior stuff going on with Miles/Ben. I don't know.

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Old 01-19-2017, 04:45 AM   #710
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I hope it is some sort of Jackall implant or something because there's doing this out of misguided sense of it being right and saving people and theres ordering your brothers death for no real reason...

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Old 01-19-2017, 12:18 PM   #711
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No amount of bad things would cause Ben to do this!
Ben was alive for 5 years prior to his returning to NY.
And another 2 years when he got here.
He went through hell a few times over.
He was always stronger in will and smarter than Peter.

Being killed a few times and brought back would NOT break Ben.

Dan Slott said "Be careful what you wish for" in regards to having Ben back.
Seems his idea was just to piss all of us off!

Ben isn't the first character to die and be brought back to life multiple times by a villain.
The same thing happened to Johnny Storm. He turned that ***** around quick and became ruler of the Negative Zone. Johnny is nowhere near as responsible, smart or determined as Pete/Ben.

And here I was, thinking that Dan would have finally gotten better, but no, stupid me for "letting my guard down"
This tubby load needs to leave the book!

I've said it before, I will say it again.
Everything since the (original) reboot NEEDS to go away and be as if it never happened.

There is one saving grace in all of this though!
This isn't the real Ben Reilly!
616 and nearly everyone from it is dead and gone. Almost every character except for like 5 of them, are Reed, Franklin and Owen's genetic constructs!

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Old 01-19-2017, 12:23 PM   #712
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I've always wanted Ben to come back but man what a horrible way to do it. Slott really is just ******* all over this character. I've said this for awhile now but Slott should have left after Superior Spider-Man ended.

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Old 01-19-2017, 12:32 PM   #713
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Slott has to go.

HAS TO GO.

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Old 01-19-2017, 06:34 PM   #714
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Oh, and another thing!
Ben never wanted to be Peter or take his place!
My goddess, this is such blatent character assassination!

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Old 01-19-2017, 06:42 PM   #715
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One more thing...
I just figured out what is wrong with all the clones...
It isn't vibrations, cell and wifi interference... that's a crap excuse...
The problem is using a dead, necrotic base.
Look at Ben, Gwen and Miles... Perfect clones.
They were made from living genetic material.
And before anyone brings up Kaine, yes, he was also from living genetic material, HOWEVER, the cloning process wasn't perfected yet...

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Old 01-21-2017, 06:40 AM   #716
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I agree that something with Ben's behavior is really off.
He never really wanted to live Peter's life and he came to accept that he is his own person and created his own life.
So everything he does in the end of Clone Conspiracy #4 doesn't make sense.

But maybe that is not really Ben, maybe the Jackal (the real one) tampered with his mind? Maybe there is more to this Proto-clone?
I am not fond of the direction this story goes, too. But lets wait until it's over before jumping to conclusions.

And you have to grant Slott one thing: he brought back Ben, something noone at Marvel dared to over the last 20 years.

We will get a Ben Reilly Scarlet Spider book, so come on, give it a chance.

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Old 01-21-2017, 04:22 PM   #717
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Ben is this way because he is Warren's Spidercide 2.0. This may be out of character for Ben, but it is completely in character for the original Spidercide. The Jackal probably mixed Ben's personality with that of Kaine and SpOck after they did that Scarlet Spider/Superior crossover in an attempt to give Ben the Spidercide powers which warped Ben's mind. The new Scarlet Spider costume looks EXACTLY like Spidercide on purpose.

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Old 01-22-2017, 02:54 AM   #718
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I agree that something with Ben's behavior is really off.
He never really wanted to live Peter's life and he came to accept that he is his own person and created his own life.
So everything he does in the end of Clone Conspiracy #4 doesn't make sense.

But maybe that is not really Ben, maybe the Jackal (the real one) tampered with his mind? Maybe there is more to this Proto-clone?
I am not fond of the direction this story goes, too. But lets wait until it's over before jumping to conclusions.

And you have to grant Slott one thing: he brought back Ben, something noone at Marvel dared to over the last 20 years.

We will get a Ben Reilly Scarlet Spider book, so come on, give it a chance.
Except Marvel has just recently said that they've had authors that wanted to bring him back for about 10 years now.
Something always happened.
Then Dan came on board and every time someone brought up bringing Ben back, he nixed it.

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Old 01-23-2017, 12:22 PM   #719
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Except Marvel has just recently said that they've had authors that wanted to bring him back for about 10 years now.
Something always happened.
Then Dan came on board and every time someone brought up bringing Ben back, he nixed it.
Wasn't it Slott who wanted to bring back earlier but other creatives at Marvel didn't allow it because they had other plans. Only now that these other plans (I would be really interested to know what plans they had) have been dropped Ben Reilly was available.
The Kaine Scarlet Spider series was just a stand-in because Ben was not available.

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Old 01-24-2017, 05:19 AM   #720
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Usually I like Mark Bagley's art, but Ben's new costume looks much better in the Greg Land variant:


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Old 01-24-2017, 11:43 AM   #721
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That variant is so good.

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Old 01-24-2017, 02:23 PM   #722
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I like the costume even less there...
I would never wear anything that gaudy!

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Old 01-24-2017, 02:33 PM   #723
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Costume definitely isn't ideal but it's still Ben so.

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Old 01-24-2017, 03:01 PM   #724
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That mouth is really gonna throw me off. I hope this outfit is rather short-lived.

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Old 01-24-2017, 06:59 PM   #725
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Here are differences between both costume images... the hands being one...
Mark's doesn't have the blue going through each finger
There's no mouth on this one.

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