Nolan...add Robin!!!!!! - Part 1

[Saint]

Originally Posted by craigdbfan

I know, I'm just being dramatic. Let me indulge in hyperbole, you!

Never.

[Kynergy]

Originally Posted by AnorexicBatman

I rest my case. It's nice to see that the video game industry doesn't abandon great characters because some ******* made a stupid version of him/her several years ago. That's Tim Drake but could work for Grayson as well. Late-teens or early 20's which is perfectly realistic and not too young

Ya, its good that Robin could possibly be starting to be making a comeback after what Schumacher did. I think people have forgotten (somewhat) about that film and the name Robin doesn't scare them as much anymore. He still wont work in a Nolan film, but the future for Robin making his return to film is starting to look bright.

[The Infernal]

Originally Posted by AnorexicBatman

I rest my case. It's nice to see that the video game industry doesn't abandon great characters because some ******* made a stupid version of him/her several years ago. That's Tim Drake but could work for Grayson as well. Late-teens or early 20's which is perfectly realistic and not too young

Looks pretty good, but I desperately want to see the coloured version. I was a bit shocked to see the shaved head, because even though I'm not a big DC reader I'm not aware of either Tim Drake or Dick Grayson ever looking like that. That bit took a bit of getting used to. Still I expect that many people's opinion on this Robin could change for better or worse depending on what the final coloured version looks like.

[CJ]

I remember Conroy saying in an interview that Arkham City gets "pretty dark"

Maybe The Joker kills Robin in it, like in the comics?

And I don't like the shaved head. It's generic.

[Blackman]

Generic? ANy more generic than all the Robins looking alike in the comics hair wise?

[the amazing fro]

Yeah the shaved head is a bit excessive and seems like they are trying very hard to make him "badass." Because all badass people have shaved heads according to the games industry. HOwever I do commend them for adding him.

[Kynergy]

I know who he looks like...Cole from Infamous.

[The_Raganork]

Originally Posted by Kynergy

I know who he looks like...Cole from Infamous.

you said it before I did. He looks just like Cole.

Robin in a Nolan film?

There are a million reasons why this isn't a good idea.

Chief among them, the dynamic of Bruce, training and allowing a kid to put himself in danger on the streets of Gotham while people are getting murdered, probably can't be pulled off in his eventual favor.

Bale's Wayne just wouldn't allow anyone else to do his job, for/with him for fear that he'll get someone else killed. You can argue that Robin can be older but, if you're talking about Robin we're talking about a young kid to begin with.


It's much too risky for Bruce to do this and in the end, I'm afraid Wayne would look like a creep if Robin was included.

[tekken]

FEAR NOT FRIENDS! I COLORED THE IMAGE.

sorry for the all caps. there are days where i just want to be a troll. but i'm a troll with goods. here ya go super hero hype friends. be nice.



http://qbatmanp.deviantart.com/art/A...ored-214266559

[The_Raganork]

Because of your user name I am in love with you.

[Nevincer]

Originally Posted by tekken

FEAR NOT FRIENDS! I COLORED THE IMAGE.

sorry for the all caps. there are days where i just want to be a troll. but i'm a troll with goods. here ya go super hero hype friends. be nice.



http://qbatmanp.deviantart.com/art/A...ored-214266559

That looks pretty good, I have to say. Nice work. And don't worry about it, trolling is an art

[El Payaso]

Originally Posted by tekken

FEAR NOT FRIENDS! I COLORED THE IMAGE.

sorry for the all caps. there are days where i just want to be a troll. but i'm a troll with goods. here ya go super hero hype friends. be nice.



http://qbatmanp.deviantart.com/art/A...ored-214266559

Both the design and the colouring are great.

But with the colors I can start seeing why this wouldn't work in Nolan's movies. No matter what, Robin next to Batman doesn't look right on the big screen.

[Nevincer]

Originally Posted by El Payaso

Both the design and the colouring are great.

But with the colors I can start seeing why this wouldn't work in Nolan's movies. No matter what, Robin next to Batman doesn't look right on the big screen.

The harsh reality is you're probably right.

[tekken]

here's something a little more tim drake friendly, and less ambiguous as to who it is under there.



http://qbatmanp.deviantart.com/art/A...-v-2-214272802

I WILL NOT ACCEPT HARSH REALITIES. sob. he will be in arkham city, and for that - i should be grateful.

[darknight7.1]

Originally Posted by *Whiplash*

Yeah, Nolan doesn't make everyone out to be stupid in his movies like Schumacher did.

Robin's mask is probably the worst part. It doesn't hide anything at all and totally pointless.

I'm sure the hood on the cape would solve some of your issue....

[Monsieur Xavier]

I like my Batman like my Bourbon...dry and Robinless

[Nevincer]

Originally Posted by Monsieur Xavier

I like my Batman like my Bourbon...dry and Robinless

[COMPO]

There's a sense with The Dark Knight that Nolan's Batman wouldn't let anyone do the job he does and that he would be Batman for life and he has to be Batman for life.

I think Robin it should be a conflicting issue for Batman as he is becoming older and thinking about future, of a world without Batman and what will happen to Gotham if one day he's killed. I'd have Bruce be there when Dick Grayson parents are killed and sort of take Dick in but not to train him but because he feels sorry for him and understands what he's going through.

As Dick tries to go out and find his parents killer Batman wonders whether Dick could be his future replacement but is conflicted about it. Have Batman be the reluctant mentor of Dick sort of like Mr Hann in Karate Kid.

Batman is reluctant of Robin just as the audience is and the movie is about Robin proving himself to Batman as well as us.

[The Infernal]

Great work on the colouring tekken. That's some sweet work. Lets hope he looks pretty much like that in Arkham City.

Personally I think the only good reason for keeping Robin out of Nolan's movies (other than the fact Nolan isn't interested which is good enough) is that Nolan is focusing on a time in Batman's life that is way before Robin ever came on the go.

Even in TDK Batman is still in the beginning of his career. I don't think he will be the Batman we all know until the end of this next film.

[Saint]

Originally Posted by tekken

here's something a little more tim drake friendly, and less ambiguous as to who it is under there.



http://qbatmanp.deviantart.com/art/A...-v-2-214272802

I WILL NOT ACCEPT HARSH REALITIES. sob. he will be in arkham city, and for that - i should be grateful.

I like this better than the green; Tim's red and black costume was always my favourite. Nice touch making the inside of the hood yellow; that works great.

Anyways, it's now a fact that Robin would look just fine on screen. Everybody can go home now and relax, the argument is over. It's been proven. With science.

[The_Raganork]

Alright...it's time to start using spoiler tags

[Doc Samson]

Originally Posted by Raganork8

Robin in a Nolan film?

There are a million reasons why this isn't a good idea.

Chief among them, the dynamic of Bruce, training and allowing a kid to put himself in danger on the streets of Gotham while people are getting murdered, probably can't be pulled off in his eventual favor.

Bale's Wayne just wouldn't allow anyone else to do his job, for/with him for fear that he'll get someone else killed. You can argue that Robin can be older but, if you're talking about Robin we're talking about a young kid to begin with.

It's much too risky for Bruce to do this and in the end, I'm afraid Wayne would look like a creep if Robin was included.

Agreed, just the concept of Robin tends to make Batman somewhat of a contradiction. Maybe even a little weird.

But I think that also extends to Catwoman, at least in the context that he would actually align himself with her, or to even allow her to exist. If he's injured for a period of time and unable to physically stop her, that's one thing, but once he is, I just can't see this version of Batman letting her go about town.

Especially if she's a thief in any capacity. It's going to be interesting how that dynamic plays out, because to me, it's much the same scenario as Robin. Perhaps even worse, considering she's a criminal at times, and at least in Robin's case, Wayne has a nurturing role in his development, skillset & moral compass

[Knight Rise]

the Nolanverse isnt supposed to have Robin because its a younger Batman. how hard is it to believe?

[Two-Face]

Originally Posted by Knight Rise

the Nolanverse isnt supposed to have Robin because its a younger Batman. how hard is it to believe?

Exactly.

"With respect, sir, perhaps this is a man that they don't fully understand."

[Poni_Boy]

So plenty of rumors flourished last year that Nolan would make a definitive "end" to his Batman saga with this film; namely, killing off Bruce Wayne. Not only is this a depressing thought in and of itself but it seems to go against the character that Nolan is slowly evolving. Being that this is the last film of the franchise and Bruce needs to be given some sort of closure, how do you feel the introduction of Dick Grayson would play to fans and general audiences? Not so much as a character throughout, or even a "big reveal," but something towards the very end of the film that shows Bruce's adoption of Dick is in his imminent future (off camera, of course).