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Old 04-24-2011, 02:55 PM   #26
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UPDATE: 'CONDEMNATION' RESOLUTION TO BE INTRODUCED AGAINST REPRESENTATIVE WHO SUGGESTED ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS SHOULD BE SHOT
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/04/...ive/index.html

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Old 04-24-2011, 04:31 PM   #27
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He should have known better than to say that in public.

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Old 04-28-2011, 11:19 PM   #28
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Since we are on a comic book website...

SUPERMAN TO 'RENOUNCE' AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP IN UPCOMING COMIC BOOK ISSUE
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_855281.html

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Old 04-28-2011, 11:25 PM   #29
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He was an illegal immigrant anyway

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According to the AP, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer is prepared to take the fight over her state's immigration law to the US Supreme Court.

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Old 05-10-2011, 01:43 PM   #31
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UPDATE: IMMIGRATION REFORM DEBATE STARTING TO HEAT UP AGAIN
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...o-take-action/

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Old 05-10-2011, 05:48 PM   #32
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UPDATE: PRESIDENT OBAMA RENEWS CALL FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM
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Old 05-10-2011, 06:08 PM   #33
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Bah!

We don't need to reform, we need to enforce the laws that is in the books. It's not like it's hard to get citizenship anyways, long as ya do it the legal way I have nothing against it and supporting those people who want to do it the right way! =D There is tons of church's out there that are willing to help with that!

Our own state here, actually let's illegals have drivers license, which in turn can get food stamps, medical, and all of that happy stuff. They say it's to keep the roads safer, which I can understand, but at the same time...you can get all of this stuff? Most of 'em soon as they get the card, they drop their insurance. We carry uninsured around here, and it's already come in handy! =C Even to other states, it's crazy, IMO.

Plus, there is a huge threat as well from Juarez, and how many deaths it's gone on at. A lot of people are saying it's going to spill into El Paso soon, and I believe it. We need to do something about the border, and soon! About a year ago there was pot shots taking at El Paso City Hall from across the border. =/

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Old 05-10-2011, 06:33 PM   #34
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I believe it was Johnson that said this at the debate....

"Immigration needs to be about work not welfare"

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Old 05-11-2011, 03:22 PM   #35
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UPDATE: UTAH'S ENFORCEMENT OF IMMIGRATION LAW BLOCKED BY JUDGE
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...migration-law/

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Old 05-11-2011, 06:40 PM   #36
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My work takes me to other countries quite often for months at a time. Every time I go, I have to get the proper visas and work permits, often renewing them while I am there. I have to follow the rules to work in that country, WHY is it asking too much [or considered "racist"] to ask others to do the same when coming here to work? I just do not get it.

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Yes, most countries do that....but when we want to do that, we get brought up before the UN on it.....life's great.

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Old 05-11-2011, 09:57 PM   #38
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This isn't directed at anyone here, I just wanted to throw a reminder out there: the first American colonies went about acquiring much of the southern states illegally anyway... something to consider is that many of the Mexicans in northern Mexico feel no attachment to Mexico in comparison to how they feel towards states like Arizona, California and Texas.

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Old 05-12-2011, 04:01 AM   #39
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Not sure how much of that was "illegal" - Texas was it's own country for almost 20 years before it freely joined the US. Most of New Mexico and Arizona was purchased from Mexico or won in a war [the US could have kept ALL of Mexico if it had wanted to, maybe it should have?], don't recall about California off hand.
Also, anything the US "took" from Mexico, they "took" from Spain, etc.

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This isn't directed at anyone here, I just wanted to throw a reminder out there: the first American colonies went about acquiring much of the southern states illegally anyway... something to consider is that many of the Mexicans in northern Mexico feel no attachment to Mexico in comparison to how they feel towards states like Arizona, California and Texas.
It was not only "American colonies" (colonists), who were Mexican citizens at the time, who wanted Texas (northern Mexico in 1836) to be independent from Mexico. There was a large majority of native born Tejanos who were for independence as well. Santa Anna was a tyrant who basically tore up the Mexican Constitution of 1824 and took away the freedom of his people. People really need to understand Texas history and read more into it than what is taught on a superficial level.

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Old 05-12-2011, 11:25 AM   #41
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Instead of trusting everything you read in your textbooks you should do some research on the legal principles behind acquiring land as well as the validity behind many of the verbal and written contracts that were made at the time. The majority of the land "bought" or "negotiated" was done so by misunderstandings that were deliberately made by the Americans.

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Old 05-12-2011, 02:23 PM   #42
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Instead of trusting everything you read in your textbooks you should do some research on the legal principles behind acquiring land as well as the validity behind many of the verbal and written contracts that were made at the time. The majority of the land "bought" or "negotiated" was done so by misunderstandings that were deliberately made by the Americans.
Not sure if you are refering to just Texas, the rest of the southern area, or just the south in general...but there are a lot of misconceptions about the area that became known as Texas. For instance, that area was generally uninhabited at the time when Mexico allowed for immigration and was giving away land to "emprisarios" like Stephen F. Austin. Most of the native Tejanos were centered near the Rio Grande or in the San Antonio area. The rest was inhabited by Native-Americans. Mexico waived tarrifs and taxes for ten years to allow the colonists to be profitable. All the colonists were to become Mexican citizens and Catholic. However, Mexico did not hold up their end of the bargain once they saw the colonies were profitable. They waived the ten year waiver and ceased allowing colonization of the area, but allowed immigration by Anglos into other parts of Mexico. Then Santa Anna took power, revoked the Constitution of 1824, and became a military dictator.

Another misconception is that it was only Anglos in Mexico who wanted independence. Native Tejanos wanted it as well. The original goal was for Texas (Cohilla y Tejas) to become it's own recognized state in Mexico, not a seperate country. The rebels (Anglos and Tejanos) realized a seperate country was the only way to achieve independence after Santa Anna started killing his own countrymen for speaking out against him.

Yeah, there were squatters on the land and probably some dishonest land deals. However, the majority of those that revolted in Texas had been colonists for years or native Tejanos.

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Sorry I should probably clarify; in saying "Mexico" I meant more so the Mestiso Mexicans rather than the Spanish-Mexicans as well as the First Nations and I meant in the south in general.

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This isn't directed at anyone here, I just wanted to throw a reminder out there: the first American colonies went about acquiring much of the southern states illegally anyway... something to consider is that many of the Mexicans in northern Mexico feel no attachment to Mexico in comparison to how they feel towards states like Arizona, California and Texas.
Some in Southern Mexico don't feel any attachment to Mexico....hmmmm....

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Not sure how much of that was "illegal" - Texas was it's own country for almost 20 years before it freely joined the US. Most of New Mexico and Arizona was purchased from Mexico or won in a war [the US could have kept ALL of Mexico if it had wanted to, maybe it should have?], don't recall about California off hand.
Also, anything the US "took" from Mexico, they "took" from Spain, etc.


I blame Spain for all of this...

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According to Reuters, the South Carolina State House of Representatives has passed an immigration policy similar to Arizona's controversial bill.

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UPDATE: SUPREME COURT RULES IN FAVOR OR ARIZONA IMMIGRATION LAW
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UPDATE: FEDERAL JUDGE ISSUES PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION OVER PARTS OF GEORGIA IMMIGRATION LAW
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UPDATE: IMMIGRATION MUSEUM PROPOSED FOR NATIONAL MALL
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I have nothing wrong with the idea, but its a waste of money to do right now.

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