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Old 03-22-2011, 05:42 AM   #76
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I sure hope they don't do the martial arts mastery-beats-armor thing. That never made any sense to me. If you're going to do that then just drop the other shoe and call it magic. That's what it'd have to be. Now the rings as highly sophisticated weapons of either his own design or mingled(loosely) with suggestions of possible alien origins....that I'm all for.
Same here, it's kind of stupid for a martial arts blow to penetrate an suit of armor that shrugs off high caliber bullets & military explosives.

They would have to have Mandarin mixing his martial arts with some type of "alien" or "high tech" weaponry.

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Same here, it's kind of stupid for a martial arts blow to penetrate an suit of armor that shrugs off high caliber bullets & military explosives.

They would have to have Mandarin mixing his martial arts with some type of "alien" or "high tech" weaponry.
Yeah, ya'll are right, it would look a bit silly for Iron Man to take shells from a tank only to get his armor torn off by a kick.

But the rest that I mentioned should stay.

Mixing martial arts with "alien" or "high tech" weaponry would be cool, but they would have to know how to pull it off and not come off cheesy like Robocop 3. (but then again that was Robocop 3 and everything failed in that one)

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Old 03-23-2011, 11:42 PM   #78
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The martial art used should not be the reason he can break through IM's armour - It should be the reason IM is hit so often.

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Mandarin always used more than just martial arts though, this was obvious in the comics especially when IM can take hits from most villains, he took plenty from the Extremis guy before his armour cracked.

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Old 03-25-2011, 12:31 PM   #80
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The Mandarin has superhuman strength. I don't know why people keep forgetting that, it's right there in his early stories, Iron Man talking about how the Mandarin's strength rivals the armor. The Mandarin has the power to channel Chi into superhuman strength, and the ability to go years without food and water. Basically he chi-amps his strength to Iron Man level and his skill takes care of the rest.

Anyway, the Mandarin is much like Deathstroke, and Prometheus, if you downplay his martial arts too much you ruin his character. He's very bland if he's all about the rings and nothing but the rings. He is, and should remain, someone whose bread-n-butter is martial arts, and who uses prep and the rings to get a little cheap advantage. Creating illusions with the mind-ring and then sucker-punching Iron Man while he's fighting things that aren't there, for example.

Kind of like the way Prometheus uses his little strobe-light thing, as a method of disorienting his opponent before he jumps on him physically.

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I really doubt they're going to go the superhuman strength route in this movie. They'll more than likely focus on the rings as his source of power.

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Old 03-25-2011, 01:13 PM   #82
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How bland that would be, like having Deathstroke in a story and have him use nothing but a sniper-rifle. *sigh* It really sounds like they will ruin the Mandarin like they ruined Dr. Doom, making him bland as hell in the name of realism.

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Old 03-25-2011, 04:20 PM   #83
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Come on, I wouldn't go that far, they can still make a badass Mandarin and still ground him a bit.

Ra's was still badass without having the Lazarus Pit in Batman Begins.

Mandarin not having superhuman strength isn't going to make or break the character.

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Aren't the Avengers fighting aliens? Or, at the very least, a god or two?

I don't see why Mandarin has to be grounded after that. After Thor, the cat's out of the bag on the Marvel Universe.

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They could alter the origins of Mandarin's powers & say it's from Asgard. I don't think any of us will be mad, as long as the rest of the character stays unchanged.

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How do we know Mandarin will even be in the movie?

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the mandarin has been hinted at in both films so it would make sense for them to finally get around to bringing him in the way he was intended, if they had a version already picked out. given the mechanical aspects of both first films it would be a little different to see a villain with powers that werent based on technology, but not a bad thing. i would see it as a bad thing if all of the sudden there were mystical or supernatural elements to it. even tho the universe iron man exists in now is accepting to the idea of other planets and such i guess it wouldnt be that far fetched but i imagine they would use a more physical means for theatening iron man in the 3rd film. iron monger was huge and a more powerful version of the original suit, whiplash had his whips and the hammer-army so i wonder where they would think of going for the last iron man film since war machine helping him is pretty much a given.

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Drew Pearce Writing IM3
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At first I was wondering why Black isn't writing, but I figure that Shane Black will either co-write it or possibly even rewrite the script, which either way will be a good thing.

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At first I was wondering why Black isn't writing, but I figure that Shane Black will either co-write it or possibly even rewrite the script, which either way will be a good thing.
Yep. Black will write the script along with Pearce.

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Ah, that's great. Since Black isn't really a guy that has dabbled with Superheroes or sci-fi much before I think it's good he's paired with a screenwriter who has.

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According to Deadline Hollywood, "Drew Pearce will work closely with Black." So take it for what it's worth.

Black is really good but since this is a huge step above what he's done before at least as a director I don't think it hurts having someone else carrying the workload.

Plus from what we know of Downey he likes to re-write or just come up with his own material on the fly.

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As long as they don't forget to write in Mandarin, I don't care who's writing.

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If anything, like I said before, Black would probably do a rewrite of some of the dialogue and be his own script doctor for it ala Christopher Nolan for Batman Begins.

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At first I was wondering why Black isn't writing, but I figure that Shane Black will either co-write it or possibly even rewrite the script, which either way will be a good thing.
I think he's there to sort of comedy up the script a bit so it's not too hardcore like Payne with Thor's script.

But we'll see. I've got nothing against the guy.

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http://collider.com/michelle-monagha...ce-code/82677/

Michelle Monaghan says she wants to be in Iron Man 3 and that Shane Black is really excited about directing the movie.

Give her a golden mask, two guns and put her in the movie!

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Though I would like Black to write the whole script, I understand it's probably tough for him because he is writing two other projects that is in-development.

Nevertheless it will be interesting to see how this turns out.

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Finnally got around to seeing Kiss Kiss Bang Bang..Great movie if Shane Black is directing than count me in.

I felt IM2 was a HUGE letdown, so iam hoping it comes back strong with this third film.
RDJ needs to find a way to switch it up but still remain true to the character becausein IM2 he was very unlikeable and a complete douche at times.

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Unlikeable? I didn't get that. I could understand all the other characters in the film being upset with how he was acting but as an audience member I knew the reasons behind his behavior. An overall excellent film that was a little less great than the 1st, but then that wasn't quite unexpected based on how great the 1st was.

Eh, to each his own I guess.

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