The IRON MAN 3 News & Speculation Thread

[Raiden]

While I'm excited that IM3 will be adapting the Extremis storyline from the comics, and visually it is one of the better IM suits in history, I'm concerned that the audience may find the whole nanotechnology and the fact that the suit is stored inside Stark's body to be too much of a fantasy to be taken seriously. IM has always grounded more in reality, even though if you take a look at his suits they are anything but realistic, and Extremis will pretty much launch the franchise into a more Star Trek-esque realm of believability. I think having specialized machinery to "dress up" Stark with the suit has always been a thrill to see on the big screen, but with the nanotechnology Stark can suit up anytime and anywhere he wants, which the audience will either be interested to see or unable to accept the new armor within the context of the MCU.

I just hope Black and RDJ will make sure to give us an IM movie that we will be excited about again, unlike IM2 which despite its financial success just wasn't a particularly well-made movie.

[ElMariachi]

Originally Posted by jonathancrane

Iron Man 2 actually performed fine in both the financial and critical sectors. So, I would not rule out War Machine and Hammer.

Something that many people posting on this site flat out ignore. It's a vocal minority on the internet that refuse to let Iron Man 2 go. We all get that it wasn't as good as it maybe should be or as great as the original. That being said, it still was pretty good if we are comparing it to other superhero movies. For such a horrible movie, how did it get a 74% Fresh rating on RT? With how hard these sorts of movies are judged, that's pretty impressive. Not to mention the movie making $620 million non-3D at the box office and selling the amount of DVD/BluRay that it did.

[Danalys]

often sequels ride on the success of their fore-bearers. the audience doesn't know if they like it going in. they can only base their participation on the past film, any changes to cast and crew, word of mouth and reviews. IM2 isn't horrible but it has more problems than any other marvel studios film. i think the blame for the problems is misplaced often tho.

[ElMariachi]

Extremis is going to a be a great story for IM3. I want this movie to actually feel like a science fiction story (not a superhero film) and make great use of the nanomachine angle. Perhaps even some elements of horror with science creating a monster. Nanomachines will someday make science fiction reality. They can do great things for society but can also made into some horrific weapons. The Extremis virus is a good example. I like to see the technology be at the center of the movie, similar to the fictional dream technology in Inception.

[ElMariachi]

Originally Posted by Danalys

often sequels ride on the success of their fore-bearers. the audience doesn't know if they like it going in. they can only base their participation on the past film, any changes to cast and crew, word of mouth and reviews. IM2 isn't horrible but it has more problems than any other marvel studios film. i think the blame for the problems is misplaced often tho.

The last movie couldn't have had much to do with how well IM2 did on the home video market. I truly think people overestimate the dislike of IM2 on here. We all can agree that it wasn't as solid as the original but it's not like the movie was particularly bad. It had a few flaws but still an enjoyable movie due to RDJ. I would compare the movie to Temple of Doom actually. Both movies were criticized for not being as good as the original but they were still enjoyable because the main character. Temple of Doom is rewatchable because of how cool Harrison Ford was as Indiana Jones despite having to deal with a constantly shrieking blonde idiot, a small child, and other silly characters. I would probally throw Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow into this as well with the POTC sequels.

If this is truly Marvel's worst, then things are looking good for the future. Al this movie needed was a more solid plot. Everything else was nearly perfect about the movie. Acting, CGI, humor, action, dialouge, etc.

[Danalys]

i think if they showed tony having a real bad hangover/identity crisis rather than chilling with donuts it could have changed the whole film thematically. he's ill, he's drinking, he's letting others take up what other wise would be his responsibilities, then we need to see him broken and at rock bottom. probably would have solidified his arc for people who can't read between the lines as well.

[ElMariachi]

Originally Posted by Danalys

i think if they showed tony having a real bad hangover/identity crisis rather than chilling with donuts it could have changed the whole film thematically. he's ill, he's drinking, he's letting others take up what other wise would be his responsibilities, then we need to see him broken and at rock bottom. probably would have solidified his arc for people who can't read between the lines as well.

Yeah, I agree with that. The comedy was great in the movie, the dramatic moments could have been handled much better. The fight with Rhodey should have been a lot more than a Rock Em' Sock Em' Robots fight with no stakes. This was a great opportunity for some tension and instead they inserted a rather lighthearted remix for backround music!

I wish this scene would have had Tony in public rather than in his house. I recall an issue during Civil War where he talks about being drunk in the suit and nearly killing civilians. The villain he was fighting actually had to rescue them! Something like that would have been a hell of alot more interesting.

That being said, there are so many scenes in the movie that are among the best in the genre. The Senate hearing scene, the Whiplash/Stark Expo opening, the racetrack fight, and the final part of the movie with the drone attack. Had the middle of the movie been a bit more solid, I don't think we would have having this discussion.

[Danalys]

i don't want to speak ill of the dead about the djay in the ironman warmachine fight but the tone it set didn't jive with the script . it wasn't up to him anyway.

i think the race track fight was great but can't be compared with the greatest because of it's length. shame one of the best moments in it (suiting up with the suitcase armour) was so well know to us all from trailers.

[Chewy]

Whatever IM3 loses in terms of domestic box office it will more than make up for in Chinese box office. Filming in China + starring Andy Lau in a heroic role = Huge, Huge hit in China.

[ElMariachi]

Originally Posted by Danalys

i don't want to speak ill of the dead about the djay in the ironman warmachine fight but the tone it set didn't jive with the script . it wasn't up to him anyway.

i think the race track fight was great but can't be compared with the greatest because of it's length. shame one of the best moments in it (suiting up with the suitcase armour) was so well know to us all from trailers.

The actual Whiplash fight was a bit too short but the leadup to the fight was pretty amazing. I really haven't seen anything that matches it in a comic movie on the big screen.

[Danalys]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Whatever IM3 loses in terms of domestic box office it will more than make up for in Chinese box office. Filming in China + starring Andy Lau in a heroic role = Huge, Huge hit in China.

don't forget 3d as well.

if it had andy lau and tony leung in it i'd be caught in the cross fire between excitement and comparing it to infernal affairs.

[Son of Coul]

So we've got Pearce, Chastain, Lau, RDJ, and potentially Kingsley all as scientists in this? I don't know exactly the plot of Extremis but that sounds interesting...

[Dark Raven]

^ Where is it stated that Andy Lau is in this movie? I don't see any reports of that.

[Endeavor]

Originally Posted by Dark Raven

^ Where is it stated that Andy Lau is in this movie? I don't see any reports of that.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/ar...ing-iron-man-3

[Mr. Immortal]

Originally Posted by ElMariachi

The last movie couldn't have had much to do with how well IM2 did on the home video market. I truly think people overestimate the dislike of IM2 on here. We all can agree that it wasn't as solid as the original but it's not like the movie was particularly bad. It had a few flaws but still an enjoyable movie due to RDJ. I would compare the movie to Temple of Doom actually. Both movies were criticized for not being as good as the original but they were still enjoyable because the main character. Temple of Doom is rewatchable because of how cool Harrison Ford was as Indiana Jones despite having to deal with a constantly shrieking blonde idiot, a small child, and other silly characters. I would probally throw Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow into this as well with the POTC sequels.

If this is truly Marvel's worst, then things are looking good for the future. Al this movie needed was a more solid plot. Everything else was nearly perfect about the movie. Acting, CGI, humor, action, dialouge, etc.

Couldn't have said it better myself. The Temple of Doom analogy is great. And you know what, a lot of the times I really appreciate the lighter tone of Iron Man II. Iron Man, Thor, and Cap all had such emotional weight. It's nice to balance that with lighter movies from within the same franchise.

[Sebastos]

Edit, beaten to it.

[Hunter Rider]

So who's playing The Ghost?

[Webfoot Hero]

In a interview linked by the other site, Scarlett stated that she won't be appearing in IM3.

[Rain]

This seems like the place to ask this, is the Extremis story any good?

[JackMercy]

Originally Posted by Webfoot Hero

In a interview linked by the other site, Scarlett stated that she won't be appearing in IM3.

Well...I kinda just alluded to that a page or so ago, didn't I?

I feel like William Hurt in Dark City:

"Nobody ever listens to me!"

[cherokeesam]

Originally Posted by marvelrobbins

But Scarlett Johansson has been reported as returing even In a top Hollywood trade.This Isn't a fan rumor.Untill we hear otherwise we should assume Scarlett Is In film even If It
just cameo.They can always find a reason to Include her.Itwas earlier said starting In Iron Man III they start phase 2 of the Avengers.A Black widow apperance doesn't mean
they are overswoading the film with Avengers.

ScarJo just confirmed *herself* that she isn't in IM3.

Originally Posted by Raiden

While I'm excited that IM3 will be adapting the Extremis storyline from the comics, and visually it is one of the better IM suits in history, I'm concerned that the audience may find the whole nanotechnology and the fact that the suit is stored inside Stark's body to be too much of a fantasy to be taken seriously. IM has always grounded more in reality, even though if you take a look at his suits they are anything but realistic, and Extremis will pretty much launch the franchise into a more Star Trek-esque realm of believability. I think having specialized machinery to "dress up" Stark with the suit has always been a thrill to see on the big screen, but with the nanotechnology Stark can suit up anytime and anywhere he wants, which the audience will either be interested to see or unable to accept the new armor within the context of the MCU.

I just hope Black and RDJ will make sure to give us an IM movie that we will be excited about again, unlike IM2 which despite its financial success just wasn't a particularly well-made movie.

I understand your concern, but dude: Iron Man just got finished fighting off an alien invasion and battling Viking gods. I don't think audiences are gonna have any trouble suspending disbelief over a nanotech suit.

[Justkidding]

Well, I signed up to be an extra. We'll see if I get to be in the movie. There were lots of people there. Many kept talking about becoming famous thanks to it. Made me want to bang my head against a wall.

[Endeavor]

For real?

or are you

just kidding

[Ultimatehero]

After re-reading 'Extremis' yeah this has got to be the third movie and I highly believe Guy Pearce is Malen re-named. Ben Kingsley, now don't count me on this, may be a twisted form of Yinsen. The thing that sold it to me is: "You're the nightmare vision of who I could have been if I didn't know how to use what was given to me." THAT? Is coming full-circle. It finishes one-arc then opens it up for another and I'm betting RDJ, like Hugh, is in this for as many movies as they can make.

[Chris B]

Originally Posted by cherokeesam

....aaaand....wish granted.

Maybe.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/ar...for-iron-man-3

Chastain is *probably* playing some variant of Maya Hansen from the Extremis arc, but I have a feeling that Feige and Black will play fast and loose with the storyline so that they can include bits and pieces from 616 and Ultimate. Just as I doubt that Guy Pearce's Aldrich Killian will be portrayed word-for-word from Ellis' book, I also doubt that Maya Hansen will be strictly canonical in the movie.

I'm willing to bet that Chastain's character may lean more towards Bethany Cabe --- or even Whitney Frost, dare I say it? --- than Maya Hansen, but we'll see.

I could see Chastain as Bethany Cabe. I could see the rationale behind combining the character with Maya Hansen, if that's what they're planning. Since Bethany Cabe has more relevance to fans than Maya Hansen.