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Old 05-01-2012, 11:53 AM   #151
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...expect them in fc2

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Old 05-01-2012, 12:29 PM   #152
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...expect them in fc2
Probably.

But I don't know if I'd want them in the MCU yet if they can't be done faithfully (ie mutant heritage, Magento-connection, etc.).

Let's save QS and SW for when/if Marvel gets the X-Men rights back. No point including them if they're only going to be shadows of their actual comic counterparts...

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Old 05-01-2012, 12:32 PM   #153
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Probably.

But I don't know if I'd want them in the MCU yet if they can't be done faithfully (ie mutant heritage, Magento-connection, etc.).

Let's save QS and SW for when/if Marvel gets the X-Men rights back. No point including them if they're only going to be shadows of their actual comic counterparts...
i agree with this

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Old 05-01-2012, 01:43 PM   #154
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id agree with it if it weren't for the fact that they had over a decade of characterization without having any family connection to Magneto (and did just fine) In a sense they were just like hawkeye... former villains turned heroes (up until the family tie to magneto). And if Hawkeye isn't a former villain in the movies... then i don't see why wanda and pietro need it.

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There are more important Avengers to introduce in the meantime anyway (the Pym's, Vision)

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Old 05-01-2012, 01:51 PM   #156
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It really is a shame that Fox's contract actually includes "mutants" rather than just individual characters. What a terrible deal.

Marvel Studios can't even have normal people developing abilities based on mutated genetics because they'd infringe on the contract!

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yeah a terrible deal that kept Marvel out of bankruptcy

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Old 05-01-2012, 02:20 PM   #158
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yeah a terrible deal that kept Marvel out of bankruptcy
I'm entirely aware of it's benefits. That doesn't make it a good deal.

The fact is, I'm sure if Marvel had better lawyers work on these contracts at the time, Sony and Fox would have still purchased the rights without such overarching statutes.

Fox and Sony knew they were getting amazing deals for these properties for what were probably relatively low prices. Marvel was desperate and more concerned with escaping bankruptcy than signing fair contracts. That's completely understandable...

still doesn't make it a good deal for them.

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yeah a terrible deal that kept Marvel out of bankruptcy
If they hadn't been mismanaged and reduced to desperation in the first place they might have gotten a much more lucrative one.

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Is there any reason to believe Marvel Studios can't use "naturally occurring genetic superhumans" at all? Because note, you can totally have those without *calling* them "mutants" specifically.

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Old 05-01-2012, 05:01 PM   #161
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Heh,, marvel should just let Wanda have mystical powers ala strange and have her loose control and "curse" random humans with powers. Think decimation, but in reverse. lol

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Old 05-01-2012, 07:30 PM   #162
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At least Marvel has the rights of Namor, who is also classified as mutant in the comics.

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Old 05-05-2012, 01:38 PM   #163
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This is kind of a stupid question, but I was just wondering: who owns the rights to Jessica Drew? It would make sense for Sony to own her due to the Spider-Woman name, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were a split contract deal like Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver. I could imagine that if Marvel Studios wanted to use her in an Avengers movie, they could, as long as they don't use the Spider-Woman name. Her powers and costume aren't specifically connected to Spider-Man, so it's possible. I'm just taking a shot in the dark though. What do you think?

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Old 05-05-2012, 01:54 PM   #164
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This is kind of a stupid question, but I was just wondering: who owns the rights to Jessica Drew? It would make sense for Sony to own her due to the Spider-Woman name, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were a split contract deal like Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver. I could imagine that if Marvel Studios wanted to use her in an Avengers movie, they could, as long as they don't use the Spider-Woman name. Her powers and costume aren't specifically connected to Spider-Man, so it's possible. I'm just taking a shot in the dark though. What do you think?
Marvel most definitely owns the full right to Spider-Woman. She is not a "Spider-Man" character, and she has literally nothing in common with Spidey apart from a similar name.

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Old 05-05-2012, 05:51 PM   #165
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If I was Marvel I'd work out a deal with SONY to get Ghost Rider and while they at it tell them to throw in Silver Sable while they are at it.

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Old 05-05-2012, 06:21 PM   #166
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I was under the impression that Marvel regained the rights to Ghost Rider.

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Old 05-05-2012, 06:31 PM   #167
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I would really like to see DD done over with a more "mature" theme in the same feel as TDK or The Watchmen....

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Old 05-05-2012, 06:53 PM   #168
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If TASM bombs, will MS get back the rights to Spidey?

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If TASM bombs, will MS get back the rights to Spidey?
Nope. Even if it only makes one dollar, Sony will rush out more and more Spidey films to keep the rights. I don't forsee them getting the rights back within this decade.

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If TASM bombs, will MS get back the rights to Spidey?
It won't bomb. It's too well known a brand.

That's okay. It would be cool to see Spiderman meet up with The Avengers but it's also nice to let the Avengers be themselves for a while without Spiderman.

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Considering the pretty tame reception it got at my showing of Avengers along with ambivalence over a reboot so soon after the last franchise film, I'd say it bombing is possible.

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Old 05-05-2012, 08:50 PM   #172
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If I was Marvel I'd work out a deal with SONY to get Ghost Rider and while they at it tell them to throw in Silver Sable while they are at it.
Hold up a second. They own Silver Sable, too?!?

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I think a distribution deal is more profitable for Fox at this point. They make money and have nothing to lose. Have Disney do the marketing but Fox puts its name on it and rakes in 5% for any major FF character used in film. If that is too much, maybe make it 10% for Fantastic Four stand alone films and less that 5% for characters in cross overs and spinoffs. It would actually add up. Say SS appears in a Guardian of the Galaxy or Defenders movie that makes 6-700 WW. That's a good 20 million just for using SS in a movie.

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Hold up a second.
I don't see how. Sony put out a Ghost Rider movie only a few months ago.
Yea, I was mixing up Ghost Rider with Punisher/Blade. I don't really care though, I'm not a huge fan of GR or his movies.

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Old 05-06-2012, 01:38 AM   #175
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Hold up a second. They own Silver Sable, too?!?



I don't see how. Sony put out a Ghost Rider movie only a few months ago.
Silver Sable appeared in the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon and it's been stated that only characters under the Spidey umbrella were on that show.
Ie Venom, Black Cat, Silver Sable.

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