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Kelsey Grammer's Original/Classic Beast 41 54.67%
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Old 02-18-2011, 06:31 AM   #51
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Both Beasts look fine. Only personal preference is the deciding factor and with a mere second shot of half First Class Beast's face shown its kind of hard to make that call as of now. Its just a matter of guessing which one will be better. I have no idea why there can be hate for X3's Beast besides the wire work at the end. He looked and acted like Beast. The transformation aspect with the character and how that affects him personally is whats gonna make First Class's Beast better. Im sure the action will be done better as well. But to early to call.

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Old 02-18-2011, 09:29 AM   #52
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For me the portrayal of Beast is entirely up to the actor, not the special effects. I've been exposed to so many different Beast "looks" over the years I no longer favor one over the other. When I first started reading comics he had blue fur, then shortly afterwards he went back to his linebacker look on X-Factor, then he rejoined the X-Men and got his blue ape look back for the cartoon, then I really got back into X-Men when Morrison came onboard and saw him in full plush toy mode. To me I never liked him looking like a Nightcrawler/Wolverine love-child, especially as a youngster because I was a Cyclops fan and hated Wolverine. For me I've always liked Beast, partly because Cyclops was such a trusted friend of his, but I've always thought his protrayal trumped his appearance. I like his current Secret Avengers look and it seems a bit of that went into his movie appearance. Long story short, if Nicholas Hoult really embodies that confident, intelligent, suave yet troubled scientist I'll be happy.

Funny aside: I always thought I was like Cyclops, and one of my good friends growing up was a teacher of mine who acted just like Hank McCoy; even kind of looked like him.

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Old 02-18-2011, 09:35 AM   #53
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Not a fan of the cat-monkey, but I like Nicholas Hoult as an actor so I'll get over it, I suppose.

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Old 02-18-2011, 10:11 AM   #54
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Off of looks, classic Beast. I think new Beast would look pretty good if he didn't have yellow cat eyes. Those are really distracting in that pic.
I hate the eyes. The entire look reminds me too much of this



And while I loved Coppola's Dracula, Beast just shouldn't look like a wolf-demon/cat.

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Old 02-18-2011, 10:19 AM   #55
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I thought Kelseys Beast was the best thing about TLS.

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Even though the new Beast is alright I prefer Kelsey Grammer's Beast.

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Old 02-18-2011, 03:07 PM   #57
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Grammer was perfect casting for Beast, and the make up was okay, but his proportions were wrong, and he didn't move like Beast at all, too stiff and upright. Hoping Hoult's Beast will be presented a little differently.

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Old 02-18-2011, 09:56 PM   #58
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Ive tried to withhold judgement until the movie comes out but Grammer Beast just cant be beat IMO. I was worried before X3 about how he would look but they absolutely nailed it and no scene he was in was awkward. He was perfect. From the split second shot of Cat-beast, I cant say the same.

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Ive tried to withhold judgement until the movie comes out but Grammer Beast just cant be beat IMO. I was worried before X3 about how he would look but they absolutely nailed it and no scene he was in was awkward. He was perfect. From the split second shot of Cat-beast, I cant say the same.

Yep. Its not even the look for me either, just Grammar's portrayal of the character.

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Old 02-19-2011, 02:25 PM   #60
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I prefer Beast in X3 !!
This one is so freaky

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Old 02-19-2011, 04:42 PM   #61
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The thing about Cat Beast...is...if they're planning to connect this film with the previous films at all...I don't see why Hank would evolve from a human, to a cat thing, to a more humanoid Beast. Maybe he was able to cure himself? Crap, now I'm playing the continuity game.

I would imagine Vaughn prefers the cat Beast and things like Stacy X and The Cure because that's when he started reading X-Men comics. That's probably why the Phoenix storyline resembles the later Phoenix arc more than it does the original.

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Old 02-20-2011, 03:09 PM   #62
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I see beast In first class as a cross between classic beast and recent beast.

I am certenly no fan of anything Grant Morrison did with the X-men.

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Old 02-20-2011, 03:17 PM   #63
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The thing about Cat Beast...is...if they're planning to connect this film with the previous films at all...I don't see why Hank would evolve from a human, to a cat thing, to a more humanoid Beast. Maybe he was able to cure himself? Crap, now I'm playing the continuity game.

I would imagine Vaughn prefers the cat Beast and things like Stacy X and The Cure because that's when he started reading X-Men comics. That's probably why the Phoenix storyline resembles the later Phoenix arc more than it does the original.
Maybe he evolved from human to cat Beast to human to humanoid Beast.

Or maybe they're just eschewing continuity (or even better, blatantly ignoring it!)

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Old 02-22-2011, 02:15 PM   #64
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The thing about Cat Beast...is...if they're planning to connect this film with the previous films at all...I don't see why Hank would evolve from a human, to a cat thing, to a more humanoid Beast. Maybe he was able to cure himself? Crap, now I'm playing the continuity game.

I would imagine Vaughn prefers the cat Beast and things like Stacy X and The Cure because that's when he started reading X-Men comics. That's probably why the Phoenix storyline resembles the later Phoenix arc more than it does the original.
That's always been my theory on Vaughn. Had he started with the older comics, specially the Jim Lee stuff, we woulda gotten Beast's classic look.

I'm just glad he seems to be aiming for a closer-to-the-comics rendition of Magneto's look.

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Old 02-25-2011, 04:08 PM   #65
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I agree, always hated what they did to Hank I'll never understand why Vaughn prefers that take on him.
That's what happens when the head editor doesn't care about a title, or characters, and he gives free reign to any egomaniac writer and allows them to ignore continuity, logic and common sense.

Vaughn probably just likes the visual, for whatever reason. Maybe he's a cat person, who knows. But he doesn't have the connection to Hank that long time readers have and he probably doesn't know why the feline mutation doesn't sit right with a lot of us.

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Old 02-25-2011, 04:27 PM   #66
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That's what happens when the head editor doesn't care about a title, or characters, and he gives free reign to any egomaniac writer and allows them to ignore continuity, logic and common sense.
VERY well said.

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Vaughn probably just likes the visual, for whatever reason. Maybe he's a cat person, who knows. But he doesn't have the connection to Hank that long time readers have and he probably doesn't know why the feline mutation doesn't sit right with a lot of us.
Dude, did you see the shot comparison above of Vaughn's Beast and Coppola's wolf/demon? They're almost identical. I'm starting to think Bram Stoker's Dracula was definitely an influence on the look of the character aside from Cassaday's Cat Beast.

But yeah, Beast isn't supposed to look terrifying.

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Old 02-25-2011, 04:35 PM   #67
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As I've said before both Beast are amazing and share their strong points.

Kelsey Grammer's by the way isn't fully based on the Lee design as to where it resembles the 90's cartoon's take on Lee's artwork version which looks more humanoid. They nailed it completely in that regard in X3.

As for the new one from Vaughn his hair and even nose is smaller like the Lee design along with some cat influences from Cassaday and even some inspiration from werewolves and Coppola's Dracula even.

Nothing wrong with that but here's Jim Lee's to give people a reminder:



I still see similarities to Hoult's Beast in Lee's drawing.

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aside from Cassaday's Cat Beast.
You know that Cassaday wasn't responsible for turning Beast into a cat, right?

It was Morrison, hence my egomaniac comment earlier.

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Right. Beast's secondary mutation is a Morrison creation, first popularized by Quitely, not Cassaday.

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As much as a like Grammer's beast (an I did) the one thing they did kinda lack on, was the body, they didn’t really do anything to make him look more beast like (other then maybe some padding under his suits) though, I am slightly more concerned about this when it comes to Hoult (at least Grammer had a bit of a bigger natural frame to work with) Hoult
(he’s great, don’t get me wrong) but, he is kinda has more of a tall and thin, body type… So, I am hoping to see maybe, a body suit, or some prosthetics,… something to make him seem more beast like… I am kinda having a hard time picturing that beast face, on his body as is…

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Well, Hoult mentioned wearing a full body suit.

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He seems to be taking up a bit of space in that Blackbird so hopefully Vaughn gave us a more uniquely styled Beast and made his body more abnormally proportioned like the Lee drawing I posted.

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...I still see similarities to Hoult's Beast in Lee's drawing.
I agree. Hoult’s Beast is an amalgamation of post-serum Beast and post-secondary mutation Beast. He’s not quite traditional, but he’s certainly no cat. Also, you’re right. It appears he may have his familiar short hair.




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Very nice picture comparison. Really puts it into perspective.

Good to see I wasn't the only one to notice he is more of an amalgam than just a direct copy of Quitely or Cassadays Beast. Still looks a lot like Lee's while still sharing some properties of the former artists I mentioned.

Really liking Hoult's Beast. One of the highlights of the trailer, heck the entire trailer is a highlight.

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It definitely looks more like Lee's than Cassaday's to me.

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