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Old 08-18-2011, 09:42 AM   #526
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Old 08-18-2011, 09:48 AM   #527
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Again, can't see video, what is it.

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He *********!!!!!!!!!!!

That was unexpectated to some and expectated by others!!!!!!

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He *********!!!!!!!!!!!

That was unexpectated to some and expectated by others!!!!!!
I don't like it....but I understand why it has to happen though

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I thought this was common knowledge?

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Beyond expected, almost a narrative necessity. Just reacting to it is a spoiler though. Even stating that reacting to it is a spoiler is a spoiler.

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Old 08-18-2011, 11:48 AM   #531
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Awhile back, the production details came out about a scene called "Funeral" or something like that. I was expecting this without that info though. This is a movie, not the the comic book. Movies generally are better with some sort of large conflict--in the case of Superman its that his adoptive father dies. It helps the story I think--especially on the big screen.

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We don't know if its in the past or present.

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Old 08-18-2011, 12:25 PM   #533
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Again, can't see video, what is it.
It's video showing the grave stone of PAPA kent, well, more like the picture made into a video

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Old 08-18-2011, 12:38 PM   #534
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It's video showing the grave stone of PAPA kent, well, more like the picture made into a video
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Old 08-18-2011, 01:55 PM   #535
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That's the problem, that's not Superman at all to me.

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That's the problem, that's not Superman at all to me.
I know dude. Me either.

However we haven't seen this sort of arc with jonathan on the big screen before. Will be interesting to see how it affects supes.

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I will not rest until my fathers death is avenged... I swear it by my own blood.


Yeah, not gonna happen when the character arc is about him becoming a beacon of hope.

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We don't know if its in the past or present.
We don't, but tradition and narrative theme suggest it'll be in the past or very early in the film.

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No. Apparently Lois was also in the funeral giving the idea that she's there to support Clark so it might happen in the present as a result of Zod invasion and battle and not the Tornado.

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Perhaps Jonathan dies in a similar manner to the way he was killed by Braniac in Action Comics a few years ago? Zod causes his murder as "purposeful collateral damage."

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No. Apparently Lois was also in the funeral giving the idea that she's there to support Clark so it might happen in the present as a result of Zod invasion and battle and not the Tornado.
Interesting.

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Still, he could just have a heart attack. It's possible that it'll be used to make the fight 'more personal' but I don't think they're going for Superman as a vengeful guy. Maybe his lack of taking vengeance will be part of the story, though.

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Maybe the tornado/hurricane is brought on by Zod and that ultimately kills Jonathan.

But it might as well be earlier on that Jonathan dying from a stroke at the hospital that makes teenage-Clark blow the windows with the super-cry.

But Clark becoming Superman fuelled by revenge WONT happen. It's more Batman than it is Spider-man and definitely not Superman. I really cant see them going there even for todays audiences. That would be a great decline for the character.

I could more easily see him ultimately donning the cape as a result of Zod threatening mankind

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Old 08-19-2011, 04:39 AM   #544
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im sorry, i couldn't help myself
but yeah, this is turning out to be great everything aside, Costner gets me pumped

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Maybe the tornado/hurricane is brought on by Zod and that ultimately kills Jonathan.

But it might as well be earlier on that Jonathan dying from a stroke at the hospital that makes teenage-Clark blow the windows with the super-cry.

But Clark becoming Superman fuelled by revenge WONT happen. It's more Batman than it is Spider-man and definitely not Superman. I really cant see them going there even for todays audiences. That would be a great decline for the character.

I could more easily see him ultimately donning the cape as a result of Zod threatening mankind
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No. Its not earlier because we see Jonathan with Cavill and Martha in the Tornado scene. There's a video of the shooting proving it. The tornado happens when Clark is a university of Kansas student, before he is Superman, hence the long hair, and this has been proven because Cavill is wearing a KU shirt. Zod obviously arrives AFTER he is Superman and comes to Smallville probably in revenge of Clark not joining his side of the battle. There's some evidence that the filming in Smallville is being devided in 2 sections: Pre-Superman days(5 year old clark in the hospital and tornado in his late teen years) and Battle with Zod(Ihop scene, military in plano in the comming weeks, Lois in smallville to cover it)

The only question that remains is will Pa Kent die before Clark is Superman or after? Somebody said in the facebook page that Lois is present at the funeral, therefore It is probable that its an aftermath of the battle with Zod. It is really not that difficult to understand.

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No. Its not earlier because we see Jonathan with Cavill and Martha in the Tornado scene. There's a video of the shooting proving it. The tornado happens when Clark is a university of Kansas student, before he is Superman, hence the long hair, and this has been proven because Cavill is wearing a KU shirt. Zod obviously arrives AFTER he is Superman and comes to Smallville probably in revenge of Clark not joining his side of the battle. There's some evidence that the filming in Smallville is being devided in 2 sections: Pre-Superman days(5 year old clark in the hospital and tornado in his late teen years) and Battle with Zod(Ihop scene, military in plano in the comming weeks, Lois in smallville to cover it)

The only question that remains is will Pa Kent die before Clark is Superman or after? Somebody said in the facebook page that Lois is present at the funeral, therefore It is probable that its an aftermath of the battle with Zod. It is really not that difficult to understand.

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Well, since we dont fully know what happens when, there's nothing to understand yet. But what you're suggesting is certainly possible. It does sound like Clark might save Jonathan from the tornado, so he'll probably die at the hand of Zod.

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Well, what i said isnt speculation. There's evidence of it with videos of the shooting. The question remains weather Pa dies in the hand of Zod or as an aftermath of the Tornado, with Clark being to busy to save everybody but his father. One thing i like about this Tornado scene is that apparently Pa Kent saves some people. This was shown in the video of the set. He tells Clark to protect his mother while he is going to help some people around the mess created by the Tornado

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Old 08-20-2011, 12:17 AM   #548
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I wonder if Clark will call Jonathan "Pa" or "Dad" in the film? Same goes for Martha, will it be "Ma" or "Mom"?

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I hope "mom" and "dad", because "ma" and "pa" just sounds a bit "hick"-like.
I reckon they go with the latter though, hehe...

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I hope it's mom and dad as well...I'm from the country but I don't say ma and pa. I called my grandpa "Pa"...but that's short for grandpa obviously

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