If they used The Green Goblin in the sequels, he should look like this.... - Page 5

Spider-ManHero12 · 02-24-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vile

I would have no problem if they spliced the Ultimate and Regular look. Have him transform, but still need some sort of suit and glider.

I completley disagree. As I said, I think Ultimate Goblin takes away what's so interesting about the Green Goblin. The dual identity, the other side, etc. IMO, he needs to have mask and a costume.

Alchemyst · 02-24-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider-ManHero12

I completley disagree. As I said, I think Ultimate Goblin takes away what's so interesting about the Green Goblin. The dual identity, the other side, etc. IMO, he needs to have mask and a costume.

And also if there are people who are barely getting into Spider-Man, they could easily confuse him for the Hulk. Best thing to do is keep the Goblin a costume to seperate the 2, transforming Goblin among other things were some of the thin layers of ice for me when it comes to Ultimate Spider-Man

Spider-ManHero12 · 02-24-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemyst

And also if there are people who are barely getting into these Spider-Man, they could easily confuse him for the Hulk. Best thing to do is keep the Goblin a costume to seperate the 2, transforming Goblin among other things were some of the thin layers of ice for me when it comes to Ultimate Spider-Man

Agreed.

Vile · 02-24-2011, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider-ManHero12

I completley disagree. As I said, I think Ultimate Goblin takes away what's so interesting about the Green Goblin. The dual identity, the other side, etc. IMO, he needs to have mask and a costume.

Oh I do agree with that - dont get me wrong, I would very much prefer a classic Goblin over the ultimate version anytime. Im just playing devil's advocate here. It wouldnt surpise me at all if Webb went Ultimate with the Goblin if for no other reason than just to distance his film from Raimi's.

Again though, give me classic over ultimate any day. I wouldnt hulk out over a hybrid of the too, either.

Alchemyst · 02-24-2011, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vile

Oh I do agree with that - dont get me wrong, I would very much prefer a classic Goblin over the ultimate version anytime. Im just playing devil's advocate here. It wouldnt surpise me at all if Webb went Ultimate with the Goblin if for no other reason than just to distance his film from Raimi's.

Again though, give me classic over ultimate any day. I wouldnt hulk out over a hybrid of the too, either.

I'm not sure about that because it would be too similar to what would have been previously seen in the current film. I would say over the course of Webb's films, however many he makes should ultimately build up to Green Goblin. I still say he should go with his the Alex Ross concept design with the hood and what not, the buildup throughout the films can explain his appearance.

incorrectuser · 02-24-2011, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by White_Knight191

Drop the sword and give him a more high-tech suit and we have something great IMO.
I kinda like the hoodie thing like the 2nd image.

Make the skin a bit darker, looks a tad to pale there. Also maybe drop the sword. But i think the goblin should look sort of low tech and scruffy at first with tattered rags. But be all high tech with bombs and what not. Thus ends my long winded way of saying basically the second picture but with slightly darker skin tone.

Galactus123 · 02-25-2011, 02:43 AM

I like these

Ajendo · 02-25-2011, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Vile

I would have no problem if they spliced the Ultimate and Regular look. Have him transform, but still need some sort of suit and glider. Especially the glider...ultimate or not, he MUST have the glider. Thats like having Batman without the Batmobile.

No. Norman should not physically mutate. All he needs to do is, play dress up and try to kill as many people as possible in the quest for trying kill spidey.

Ajendo · 02-25-2011, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Galactus123

I like these

Give me that on screen and I will pardon sony for their lunacy for what they gave us in 2002.

Galactus123 · 02-25-2011, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ajendo

Give me that on screen and I will pardon sony for their lunacy for what they gave us in 2002.

What's wrong with it?

I admit that it looked funny in some scenes but I think it was ok.

Casius--J · 02-25-2011, 05:45 AM

I honestly didn't have a problem with the original movies GG, yeah it looks a power ranger but it was ok.

But for this reboot I hope they switch it up a little, the first picture Galactus123 posted is what I would like with possibly a darker shade of green.

Thebumwhowalks · 02-25-2011, 05:58 AM

I am all for what is best for the movie, if they can't come up with a great mask for the character then fug it, make him a guy who transforms physically into looking like a Goblin, but still uses the glider and bombs etc.
It's no more different a change than making the joker a guy who wears make up, the essense of the character is the same, and in actual fact, if you are allowed to go ape**** with his face make-up, then you will get something closer to the Goblin's cb image than in the Raimi movies. Cause basically the Goblin from the 616 universe's mask made him look like a guy who transformed physically into a Goblin. It never looked like a mask, he was drawn as if he had turned into a Goblin, so just make him turn into a Goblin.

edit: and i get what SMH is saying...but you can still have the schizo nature of the Goblin, Norman having his Goblin character changes while he still looks human, just make it that the face/shape shifting power is something he uses when he is going out on jobs, just make it a seperate power. Like, he is in his Goblin persona, but has to 'will' the transformation physically, make it a painful transformation like American Werewolf in London, so he is all charged up with the crazy when he is ready to rock. Have him all cacking and whatnot, before going into the transformation, could be a great scene.

Spider-ManHero12 · 02-25-2011, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Galactus123

What's wrong with it?

Agreed! Personally, I just didn't mind it at all. He still had a costume, and it was still obviously the Green Goblin.

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Originally posted by Thebumwhowalks
edit: and i get what SMH is saying...but you can still have the schizo nature of the Goblin, Norman having his Goblin character changes while he still looks human, just make it that the face/shape shifting power is something he uses when he is going out on jobs, just make it a seperate power. Like, he is in his Goblin persona, but has to 'will' the transformation physically, make it a painful transformation like American Werewolf in London, so he is all charged up with the crazy when he is ready to rock. Have him all cacking and whatnot, before going into the transformation, could be a great scene.

Yeah, but still. It's so much creepier knowing that a mask/costume creates a completely different person. That's one of the things I think is so great about the Green Goblin.

Ajendo · 02-25-2011, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Galactus123

What's wrong with it?

Do you really have to ask?

Even a piece of turd can look good when there's no lighting and that's because you can barely see it. Just like the robocostume, it looked ok during certain dark scenes but most of the time, it was a complete eyesore. Granted, it served a purpose as a military battle suit but Norman's actual costume should have been independent from what he was doing professionally. For all intents and purposes the guy is a derranged lunatic. That pic you posted, which I had quoted is exactly the sort of costume that should be representative of Noman's state of mind; scary, crazy and damn near incomprehensible. The tech was fine, no issues there as such but the costume was just woeful.

NinjaCarm · 02-25-2011, 07:10 AM

I always had a problem and didn't at the same time with the Sam Raimi Green Goblin costume.

For me, it's still the Green Goblin, and I love watching him on screen. The armor look on screen, that we got, was pretty basic and shortsighted on the design team's part, but I still enjoy it. The alternate designs by James Carter, from the making of book, would have been much better. I even didn't have that much of a problem with New Goblin's costume.

Ultimately, I was ok with them. But now I want my true scary mask hi-tech's purple and green Green Goblin.

That's what I want.

chaseter · 02-25-2011, 08:23 AM

I agree.

Pumpkin_Bomb · 02-25-2011, 10:20 AM

Honestly, if he didn't have the glider, he'd be damn-near unrecognizable. The armoured suit was completely monotone and lacking all the flamboyance and theatrics of the Green Goblin of the comics. I'd have been fine with the suit being armoured if he'd just put some sort of spin on it to make it less visually boring. Speaking of Ultimate Goblin, if the movie Goblin had at least thrown a tattered purple shawl or something over the armour, it would have gone a long way.

Ajendo · 02-25-2011, 10:23 AM

^That's like putting a ribbon on a turd.

Immortalfire · 02-25-2011, 10:25 AM

I wish I could get a tax break every time someone called Green Goblin a Power Ranger

Pumpkin_Bomb · 02-25-2011, 10:25 AM

It's still not ideal, I know, I'm just saying that if they insisted on going that route, it would have helped a lot.

Doctor Jones · 02-25-2011, 10:41 AM

The budget was the problem with the costume. They were going to go with that one amazing design we all loved, but the budget stopped them.

Oscorp · 02-25-2011, 10:43 AM

^What design are you speaking of?

Spider-Who? · 02-25-2011, 10:59 AM

not sure if I buy that. There isn't any logic to it. "Hey, we have this amazing suit design, but not enough money for it. So, instead of simplifying the design enough to fit within the budget, lets forget that suit all together and make the cheapest suit possible."

....on second thought, that logic makes absolute sense when it comes to Hollywood.

Spider-ManHero12 · 02-25-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Immortalfire

I wish I could get a tax break every time someone called Green Goblin a Power Ranger

Yeah, I feel the same, man.

Ajendo · 02-25-2011, 11:17 AM

Well it's true. They made Green Goblin in sm1 look like the love child of the green ranger and robocop. Naturally, it was an unsightly, festive mess.

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Thebumwhowalks Banned User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 5,377	Re: If they used The Green Goblin in the sequels, he should look like this.... I am all for what is best for the movie, if they can't come up with a great mask for the character then fug it, make him a guy who transforms physically into looking like a Goblin, but still uses the glider and bombs etc. It's no more different a change than making the joker a guy who wears make up, the essense of the character is the same, and in actual fact, if you are allowed to go ape**** with his face make-up, then you will get something closer to the Goblin's cb image than in the Raimi movies. Cause basically the Goblin from the 616 universe's mask made him look like a guy who transformed physically into a Goblin. It never looked like a mask, he was drawn as if he had turned into a Goblin, so just make him turn into a Goblin. edit: and i get what SMH is saying...but you can still have the schizo nature of the Goblin, Norman having his Goblin character changes while he still looks human, just make it that the face/shape shifting power is something he uses when he is going out on jobs, just make it a seperate power. Like, he is in his Goblin persona, but has to 'will' the transformation physically, make it a painful transformation like American Werewolf in London, so he is all charged up with the crazy when he is ready to rock. Have him all cacking and whatnot, before going into the transformation, could be a great scene. Last edited by Thebumwhowalks; 02-25-2011 at 06:10 AM.

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NinjaCarm Fantastic Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,320	Re: If they used The Green Goblin in the sequels, he should look like this.... I always had a problem and didn't at the same time with the Sam Raimi Green Goblin costume. For me, it's still the Green Goblin, and I love watching him on screen. The armor look on screen, that we got, was pretty basic and shortsighted on the design team's part, but I still enjoy it. The alternate designs by James Carter, from the making of book, would have been much better. I even didn't have that much of a problem with New Goblin's costume. Ultimately, I was ok with them. But now I want my true scary mask hi-tech's purple and green Green Goblin. That's what I want.

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Ajendo Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,689	Re: If they used The Green Goblin in the sequels, he should look like this.... Well it's true. They made Green Goblin in sm1 look like the love child of the green ranger and robocop. Naturally, it was an unsightly, festive mess.

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