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Old 10-02-2010, 11:05 PM   #51
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Sort of reminds me of the Chinese Olympic Stadium for some reason.
It definitely has the 'bird's nest' feel to it.

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Old 10-03-2010, 01:01 AM   #52
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It looks ridiculous. Like a pretentious art museum.

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Old 10-03-2010, 01:07 AM   #53
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I don't mind it at all. But I wouldn't go on and say it matches any sort of prayer center. But since it's an entertainment center of sorts, I guess it's okay?

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It looks ridiculous. Like a pretentious art museum.

Well color me shocked.

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Whoa....that totally fits the architecture around there doesn't it.....? lmao. BUT HEY, it does look like that the birds in the area are going to have the perfect condos to live in....that's a positive.

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Whoa....that totally fits the architecture around there doesn't it.....? lmao. BUT HEY, it does look like that the birds in the area are going to have the perfect condos to live in....that's a positive.

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It looks like the Fortress of Solitude.

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Old 10-14-2010, 04:45 PM   #58
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I'll be standing next to Barbara on this one....unfortunately what Barbara said was not on this video. Nor can I find it ANYWHERE.... but I did hear that it was very fair, and she wasn't exactly happy with her co-hosts. She probably agreed with them, but wasn't happy with the debate.

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Bill O' Reilly's comment was beyond stupid. That being said, I don't think anyone should be surprised that he pushed such a moronic opinion.

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I agree with his opinion of the location of the center. If that makes my opinion moronic, so be it. I've stated why I hold that opinion so no need to repeat. BUT, he should have included the word "extremist" IMO....that would have cooled things down quite a bit. I watched his show tonight and saw the full retort from Barbara....

With all of that said....I was happy to hear Barbara and her intelligent take on the matter.

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I agree with his opinion of the location of the center. If that makes my opinion moronic, so be it. I've stated why I hold that opinion so no need to repeat. BUT, he should have included the word "extremist" IMO....that would have cooled things down quite a bit. I watched his show tonight and saw the full retort from Barbara....

With all of that said....I was happy to hear Barbara and her intelligent take on the matter.
The part of Bill O'Reilly's comment that I find absolutely moronic is the 'muslims attacked us on 9/11'. I could care less about what he thinks of the placement of the community center, but I do take issue with an ignorant generalization of an entire religion based on the actions are an extremist few.

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The part of Bill O'Reilly's comment that I find absolutely moronic is the 'muslims attacked us on 9/11'. I could care less about what he thinks of the placement of the community center, but I do take issue with an ignorant generalization of an entire religion based on the actions are an extremist few.
He figured by this point that if you heard someone say muslims attacked us you would already know it was terriost. Which I must agree with him, if you believe someone actually believes that all muslims are bad when they use the pharse muslims attacked us on 9/11, then your pretty much calling that person a idiot.

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The part of Bill O'Reilly's comment that I find absolutely moronic is the 'muslims attacked us on 9/11'. I could care less about what he thinks of the placement of the community center, but I do take issue with an ignorant generalization of an entire religion based on the actions are an extremist few.
Agreed, O'Reilly is an idiot spreading his stupidity and paranoia. Comments like the one he made only make more people think that all muslims are evil extremists bent on destroying America.

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The part of Bill O'Reilly's comment that I find absolutely moronic is the 'muslims attacked us on 9/11'. I could care less about what he thinks of the placement of the community center, but I do take issue with an ignorant generalization of an entire religion based on the actions are an extremist few.
Well within O'Reilly's logic, the "Muslims" being referred to are Muslim extremists. He thinks of it like Japan attacking the US in WWII; we say the Japanese attacked, not Japanese extremists.

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It was a pinhead statement.

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I'm stunned by the political correctness. It's a factual statement to say that Muslims attacked us on 9/11. He didn't say all Muslims are evil or Islam is evil or attacked us. O Reilly made a factual statement the group of people who attacked us, were...in fact..Muslims, and that they attacked us.

O Reilly is also right...the economy is biggest reason Obama's losing independents, but second reason is Obama is too culturally leftists and is disconnected from Middle Americans which is why he's becoming unpopular.

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Well within O'Reilly's logic, the "Muslims" being referred to are Muslim extremists. He thinks of it like Japan attacking the US in WWII; we say the Japanese attacked, not Japanese extremists.
It urks me somewhat that nowdays we have to be so on the dot about things we talk about like muslim extremists. As long as your not saying all muslims attacked us on 9/11. I don't see nothing that bad in just saying muslims attacked us on 9/11, as long as you make it clear your talking about extremists and not muslims in general.

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The issue I have with this whole situation is that it exacerbates the problem of perceived religious conflict; by focusing attention on the fact that the 9/11 attackers were Muslim, we reinforce the image of this war as a religious one. The problem is that it has much, much more to do with political history than it does with religion, and I don't think enough people realize that. It creates entirely unnecessary religious tension, and American citizens are hurt as a result.

O'Reilly isn't the only person that does this; I'd say a majority actually contribute to this problem...including, of course, the religious extremists themselves.

It just bothers me, and that's why I find this debate over the mosque silly, tiresome and sad.


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He figured by this point that if you heard someone say muslims attacked us you would already know it was terriost. Which I must agree with him, if you believe someone actually believes that all muslims are bad when they use the pharse muslims attacked us on 9/11, then your pretty much calling that person a idiot.
The way he said it makes it sound like the muslim religion attaked us. It's like saying Christians murder abortion doctors.

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Well within O'Reilly's logic, the "Muslims" being referred to are Muslim extremists. He thinks of it like Japan attacking the US in WWII; we say the Japanese attacked, not Japanese extremists.
Japan is a country. If this is the case than we should attack Saudi Arabia.

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I'm stunned by the political correctness. It's a factual statement to say that Muslims attacked us on 9/11. He didn't say all Muslims are evil or Islam is evil or attacked us. O Reilly made a factual statement the group of people who attacked us, were...in fact..Muslims, and that they attacked us.
It's also a factual statement to say males attacked us on 9/11. It's also a factual statement to say humans attacked us on 9/11. Of course he's not going to say all males or all humans attacked us on 9/11. It's the context.


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It urks me somewhat that nowdays we have to be so on the dot about things we talk about like muslim extremists. As long as your not saying all muslims attacked us on 9/11. I don't see nothing that bad in just saying muslims attacked us on 9/11, as long as you make it clear your talking about extremists and not muslims in general.
Well, he didn't make it clear. And if anyone talks about Christians being extremists, O'Reilly will be the first one to cry about it.

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It really just seems like some people are picking for a fight on this topic. The debate can go in circles all day about whether or not O'Reilly should have used the word "Muslim" to describe the 9/11 attackers, but the fact of the matter is that they were. This "super-PC" mindset is what's making things so weird and annoying these days. Think about all the things that can't be shown on TV, or certain taboo topics that rarely get discussed. Now look at All In The Family...see the difference.

The terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 were male. They were adults. They were fundamental extremists. And they were also Muslim. Deal with it.

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It really just seems like some people are picking for a fight on this topic. The debate can go in circles all day about whether or not O'Reilly should have used the word "Muslim" to describe the 9/11 attackers, but the fact of the matter is that they were. This "super-PC" mindset is what's making things so weird and annoying these days. Think about all the things that can't be shown on TV, or certain taboo topics that rarely get discussed. Now look at All In The Family...see the difference.

The terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 were male. They were adults. They were fundamental extremists. And they were also Muslim. Deal with it.
My problem is less with the political correctness of what was said than it is with a perpetuation of dangerous misconceptions.


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I'm stunned by the political correctness. It's a factual statement to say that Muslims attacked us on 9/11. He didn't say all Muslims are evil or Islam is evil or attacked us. O Reilly made a factual statement the group of people who attacked us, were...in fact..Muslims, and that they attacked us.

O Reilly is also right...the economy is biggest reason Obama's losing independents, but second reason is Obama is too culturally leftists and is disconnected from Middle Americans which is why he's becoming unpopular.
It has nothing to do with 'political correctness' Sent. O'Reilly is pushing the exact same idiotic line that the far right pushes to scare people. I don't care if you want to say 'terrorists attacked us on 9/11', or if you want to say 'muslim extremists attacked us on 9/11', but don't ignorantly use a blanket generalization to condemn an entire religion.

Bill O'Reilly knew exactly what he was saying and the type of reaction that it would get.

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Yesterday's blow-up on The View between Bill O'Reilly, Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg has sparked an interesting discussion about semantics, politics and the power of words. During yesterday show, the conversation turned to the so-called "Ground Zero Mosque" and O'Reilly said "Muslims attacked us on 9/11," greatly offending two of the co-hosts of The View. Both Behar and O'Reilly have explained their part in the kerfuffle, and today Fox & Friends co-host Brian Kilmeade got in the act, defending his FNC cohort by saying not all "Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim." Huh.



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"That debate is like our debate on training wheels. That was our debate, like, seven weeks ago. And they can't handle the give and take of a debate. They were outraged that someone was saying that there was a reason, there was a certain group of people that attacked us on 9/11. It wasn't just one person, it was one religion. Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."

It should be noted that the following video comes from Media Matters, who has in the past, neglected to include proper context that changes the meaning of an entire quote. However, the video below is in of itself, a pretty clear example of what many feel is the dangerously oversimplified view and equally intolerant syllogism of terrorist = Muslim.

Just a refresher - a terrorist is someone who uses wanton acts of violence to cow and oppress a group of people, not unlike the Ku Klux Klan who used such tactics in the earlier part of last century. By comparison, many members of the KKK also were Christian, so had Kilmeade been around in the 40s and 50s when the lynching of African-Americans was still occurring, using his own faulty logic, he could have ostensibly said that "all terrorists are Christians."

Words do matter, and when you are on a network of such dominant power and unprecedented political bent, one needs to be responsible for the words one uses. Kilmeade's words, in this instance, are beyond irresponsible. They are reprehensible.


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