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Old 03-21-2011, 01:33 PM   #51
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They could always do what the Terminator franchise does, ignores he third one and says it was in a "alternate reality."

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Yeah, but I don't want alternate universes in Singer's world. Just flat-out ignore it. That way we can get some decent Angel (Warren) and Juggernaut action in the prequels. Though I'd love Singer to do the Phoenix the way he always wanted!

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I was talking about X3. That wouldnt be in Singers World if its ignored, haha. Thats all Ratner

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Singer leaving to go do SR and it being a really boring movie that bombed was Karma's way of saying X-MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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singer leaving to go do sr and it being a really boring movie that bombed was karma's way of saying x-men!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sr > x3

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It just never should have happened. I don't want to speak ill of Singer. It wasn't his fault. He gave us two great films, and looks like he and Vaughn are giving us yet another. I just wish - and JP slaps me every time I get into it - that they continue to work together, do a sequel to 'First Class', then a sequel to 'X2'. It'd be a dream come true. We deserve a gloriously-epic Phoenix film that focuses on Scott and Jean. Damn it.

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Singer didn't exactly focus on Scott.

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No, but I think it was his plan to for the third film. The relationship he had between Jean and Logan was flirtatious. Sure, he had stronger feelings for her, and he was the lead character due to the story of the first two films, but I highly doubt Singer would have had a Phoenix-centered film where Cyclops was shafted. In fact, I think he mentioned he had planned it to be Cyclops' and Jean's film. Ratner took the Logan/Jean relationship to a level Singer never did... and he also shafted Cyclops in a way Singer never did.

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I've been thinking a bit. They could still do the Phoenix justice, just in First Class instead of X-Men. Obviously something had to happen for Xavier to put up mental barriers in Jeans' mind. They'd just have to do it in a sequel (obviously)

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The Dark Phoenix Saga with a 13 year old Jean?

Eh. It could work.

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I've been thinking a bit. They could still do the Phoenix justice, just in First Class instead of X-Men. Obviously something had to happen for Xavier to put up mental barriers in Jeans' mind. They'd just have to do it in a sequel (obviously)
The entire mental barrier thing was from X3 lets not muddy things up here.

It was totally out of Prof. X character anyway to do such a thing.

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Eh. It could work.

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The entire mental barrier thing was from X3 lets not muddy things up here.

It was totally out of Prof. X character anyway to do such a thing.
That could be a key point then of one of the sequels. Xavier having to do something he wouldn't do out of nature and his beliefs, and that something would be blocking Jeans' abilities to some extent to contain the Phoenix.

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I came up with that idea weeks ago... she'd be, like, 16 and that would explain why Jean sacrifices herself at the end of 'X2' - she knows the Phoenix has been released and kills herself to prevent the uncontrollable power from causing the destruction and pain it caused years ago. By doing the Phoenix in prequels, it actually makes 'X2' feel like a conclusion, rather than a cliffhanger.

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I came up with that idea weeks ago... she'd be, like, 16 and that would explain why Jean sacrifices herself at the end of 'X2' - she knows the Phoenix has been released and kills herself to prevent the uncontrollable power from causing the destruction and pain it caused years ago. By doing the Phoenix in prequels, it actually makes 'X2' feel like a conclusion, rather than a cliffhanger.
Exactly. It would blend together pretty well. Just make it so that Scott is oblivious to it. I don't think he knew about the Phoenix. Have him get knocked out or in a different place doin'...I don't know, whatever it is Scott does.

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Or have Xavier wipe the collective memories of all who bore witness to the event.

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I don't think they will touch Phoenix In First Class sequels or possible post X2 Sequel.
What was done In Last Stand was different from what Singer and his writers were
setting up.One advantage for totally Ignoring The Last Stand Is a first Class sequel can Introduce Jean Grey without being bound by what they did In The Last Stand.

There will not be a future film called X4.There may be a singer directed X-Menays of Future Past or X-Men:Something(Title to be determed) and while they could have Cyclops back without any explantion(They will do nothing to bring attention to The Last Stand) they would likely have no mention of Jean.It wouldn't be the singer version of
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If Only Fox would have done after X2 what Sony did after Spider-Man 2 and quickly sign Singer for third film and they did with Rami for Spider-man 3.

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Yeah, or that...(He's sad he didn't think of that.)

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Yeah, she could've killed a ton of people. And that would really show the dark, flawed side of Xavier - that he'd be willing to manipulate his own students, though to keep them safe, and allow Jean to get away with mass destruction, even though it was all beyond her control. He has good intent, but his judgment is poor, and he knows it.

This would also explain all those strange looks Jean had in 'X2', as if she was having visions of a past she hadn't seen before.

It definitely could work.

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I came up with that idea weeks ago... she'd be, like, 16 and that would explain why Jean sacrifices herself at the end of 'X2' - she knows the Phoenix has been released and kills herself to prevent the uncontrollable power from causing the destruction and pain it caused years ago. By doing the Phoenix in prequels, it actually makes 'X2' feel like a conclusion, rather than a cliffhanger.
That could work.It would allow them to do their version of Phoenix to fit X2.
And free them up for future while Ignoring The Last Stand.

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The entire mental barrier thing was from X3 lets not muddy things up here.

It was totally out of Prof. X character anyway to do such a thing.
Xavier installing psychic barriers actually stems from the books, but the way in which the story is handled in The Last Stand is garbage.

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Yeah, he'd still have to do the mental blocks thing, but I think he'd do it after the hypothetical Phoenix goodness happens, as opposed to before it.

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I'd like it if Singer was off the X men completly and the rites get back in Marvel's hands.

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Just because it'd be in Marvel's hands doesn't mean that any movie they would make would be better.

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