The Official Zack Snyder Thread - Part 2

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[Project862006]

he needs a change imo not a drastic one where it is unrecognizable but it needs to be fresh routh/reeves feels stale

[jmc]

I think it matters big time. Imo those who have read the book before have a skewed perspective of the finished product. A mate of mine summed it up best that he was 'filling in the missing pieces'.

[KalMart]

I had also read the book before seeing the movie, and it was the really only thing that was keeping me connected to the film enough to sit through it. Otherwise I probably would have turned it off about 10 minutes in. I have seen other movies for which I had read the source material before, and I like when I can almost leave that out and let what's happening on the screen take me along as if I'm seeing...and absorbing...the story for the first time, not as if I'm evaluating a translation, like with Watchmen.

[solidsnake86]

I love how everyone craps on 300, it reminds me on how out of touch people on this message board really are. Given its an action movie and not oscar material but it clicked with general audiences and made a lot of money. As long as they strike a balance on superman it will be fine, catering to much to the fans is a sure way to put the final nail in supermans movie career.

[jthom19802]

Originally Posted by solidsnake86

As long as they strike a balance on superman it will be fine, catering to much to the fans is a sure way to put the final nail in supermans movie career.

Ding-ding-ding. We have a winner. Snyder/Nolan/Goyer will give fans enough to be happy about yet make sure it will carry over commercially. As I've said before, make a sh**-ton of money on the first one and then you can take all the liberties you'd like on the sequel.

[Project862006]

what i love about superman for snyder is it is not based on 1 story like 300 and watchmen were

[KalMart]

300 I was actually okay with. You could just sit back and let it play out....and pound out...and slash out...and stomp out.....and....


You get the picture. Guilty pleasure, in a way. You could even watch in in different languages that you didn't understand...and it would play just the same. That's definitely achieving something.

[Randal Graves]

Originally Posted by solidsnake86

I love how everyone craps on 300, it reminds me on how out of touch people on this message board really are.

Thinking a movie is crappy doesn't mean I'm "out of touch".

[SuperDaniel]

300 was exactely like the comic book. Go complain to Frank Miller and the graphic novel then. Zack, imo, improved over the original story.

[solidsnake86]

Originally Posted by Randal Graves

Thinking a movie is crappy doesn't mean I'm "out of touch".

You're right, it doesn't mean you can't acknowledge the fact that it appealed to people. Its like the twilight situation, everyone has no problem bashing the movie but forgets that for some strange reason they are appealing to a large group of people and just like to ignore that fact, then go on to discuss super powers. Posts such as "300 sucked" and two posts later "i agree" don't really add much to a conversation.

[Randal Graves]

Originally Posted by solidsnake86

You're right, it doesn't mean you can't acknowledge the fact that it appealed to people. Its like the twilight situation, everyone has no problem bashing the movie but forgets that for some strange reason they are appealing to a large group of people and just like to ignore that fact, then go on to discuss super powers. Posts such as "300 sucked" and two posts later "i agree" don't really add much to a conversation.

Then I guess people like bad movies.

[Project862006]

or not

[Astrodust]

Oh man Sucker Punch now has a lower average than Transformers 2 on RT.

[JAK®]

Originally Posted by jmc

I think it matters big time. Imo those who have read the book before have a skewed perspective of the finished product. A mate of mine summed it up best that he was 'filling in the missing pieces'.

Everybody I know who watched it and hadn't read the comic had no trouble following the film. That includes the people who didn't like it.

[BH/HHH]

Zack Snyder talks Superman, again...
Another interview with the Superman director has hit the web. He even hints at a Lois Lane appearance.
In another interview for his new visually stunning movie 'Sucker Punch', Fred Topel of ScreenJunkies.com, like everyone else, has asked the upcoming Superman director about his plans for the upcoming flick.


ScreenJunkies: It seemed like you’d done your comic book movies with 300 and Watchmen, but was Superman just too good to pass up?
Snyder: Yeah, and in a lot of ways it’s a different thing for me. It’s a chance to do it for real. I think 300 and Watchmen are both particular in their graphic novels. I almost don’t even see them as superhero movies. I see them as they’re both novels. It’s all about the story and the way the story exists as a work of literature. For me, Superman is a whole other thing. He’s a character that we get to explore. I can make a movie that’s not an indictment but really a celebration of the character.

ScreenJunkies: Are you working with DC or is it all you, Nolan and Goyer?
Snyder: It’s all me, Nolan and Goyer. I mean, I meet with the DC guys but they don’t really [get involved.] It’s all us figuring it out.

ScreenJunkies: I know you’re starting over, but did you like the Bryan Singer Superman Returns and the Richard Donner movies?
Snyder: Yeah, I love the movie, I love the Superman character and I like the movie. It’s just we felt like we had to shed all that in order to start again and find the why of the character over.

ScreenJunkies: Do you imagine doing slow motion flying and fighting?
Snyder: I don’t know. I think the thing I’ve been thinking about with this movie is that it’s kind of its own thing in a lot of ways. I guess we’ll see how the action unfolds but the way I talk about Superman, the way I’ve been talking to everyone about shooting it is trying to get Superman to exist in the real world and be a character that lives in our world. So it’s a much more realistic, it’ll probably be the most realistic movie I’ve ever photographed.

ScreenJunkies: And there’s no Lois in this version. Is that the reason to do it, to strip away the things we know?
Snyder: Oh, there’s no Lois Lane? I didn’t know that. I don’t know what that means.

ScreenJunkies: You’ve cast well known actors in the supporting cast, Kevin Costner and Diane Lane. Is that a different way to approach the cast?
Snyder: I just felt like Kevin and Diane are both amazing talents and they’re serious. I think it just sets the tone of what we’re trying to do.

ScreenJunkies: What is your schedule like the next few weeks, or year?
Snyder: I go take the movie to Europe tomorrow. I fly out to Paris tomorrow. Then I go to London and Copenhagen. Then I come home and I just dig into Superman and we start shooting at the end of the summer.

ScreenJunkies: Do you do storyboards and drawings yourself?
Snyder: Yeah, I’m drawing like crazy.

I didnt know if this had been posted but I wanted to comment on it anyway.

Guess that confirms Nolan's still working on it

I love how he kind of dodges the question about if he liked Superman Returns and Richard Donner's Superman movies buy just saying I love the movie, I think hes on about Superman the Movie only.

His sarcastic answer about Lois Lane is brilliant guess he's saying dont believe everything you read on the net. I reckon she's in it personally.

[jmc]

Originally Posted by JAK®

Everybody I know who watched it and hadn't read the comic had no trouble following the film. That includes the people who didn't like it.

Where the hell did i say it was confusing or was hard to follow?

[JAK®]

Originally Posted by jmc

Where the hell did i say it was confusing or was hard to follow?

Well, if they had to fill in the missing pieces, then that would imply the film was difficult to follow...

[jmc]

No, what it means is that those who read the novel were filling in the character and story details that were left out the film. Those who didn't read it before, such as myself, saw the film for what it was, and saw the fairly blatant flaws. The only people praising the film it seems are the ones who had read and loved the book.

[JAK®]

Originally Posted by jmc

No, what it means is that those who read the novel were filling in the character and story details that were left out the film. Those who didn't read it before, such as myself, saw the film for what it was, and saw the fairly blatant flaws.

Not according to the people I know who haven't read it. I guess they saw the film for what it is too. Funny how their opinion is different?

[jmc]

What, they thought it was this revolutionary piece of superhero cinema that some fans crap on about?

[JAK®]

Originally Posted by jmc

What, they thought it was this revolutionary piece of superhero cinema that some fans crap on about?

Yes, they thought it was better than Citizen Kane, just to make you mad.

Actually no, this isn't Hyperbole-World, so they just thought it was a decent film.

[jmc]

Decent at best, still extremely flawed.

[JAK®]

Flawed, yes, extremely, not in my opinion.

[herolee10]

Originally Posted by BH/HHH

His sarcastic answer about Lois Lane is brilliant guess he's saying dont believe everything you read on the net. I reckon she's in it personally.

Agreed. I strongly believe that she is. I mean how can she not be in the film about Superman?