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I feel like we're having two different conversations. I'm referring to special features a/k/a making-of documentary, commentary tracks, etc etc etc. I feel like it's ridiculous for the individual sets to exclude all that. It's alienating an entire section of the audience.
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No its not brian the shout factory producer making the sets. Have made it clear bonus stuff is going for big sets for the extreme fans who want all the bonus stuff. And so think of it in sales. Its far better to do these big collector sets who will be going to limited crowds. Then blowing all there budget they got to make sets and oh one set sells well. And then next one bombs and they drop doing more. Look at for example how shout has treated other shows they done.
Where as volume sets/regular season sets. Are for the mass public. Who are just looking for this or that season. Or for little kids just getting into x older sets. They are not really looking for documentaries/commentaries, etc... stuff. |
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It makes no sense because, as I said, most people won't be interested in the full set. The so-called extreme fans are a very small number. The wise decision would be to include special features on the individual sets and for the complete set include additional features.
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And most people arent extreme fans. So the extreme fans are getting the feature since they are extreme, they care about the special features, and they think average fans dont really care that much about the special features. Extreme fans are going to buy the extreme complete series at an extreme price thus they are getting rewarded.
Just like with Charmed, they released the individual sets with no bonus features and when they got around to the complete series they had a whole disk of bonus features. Why? Because they knew the extreme fans would buy it and it was for them. |
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Darkman its all about money and using the limited budget shout has. Brian over on rb has mentioned before that the bonus stuff is for the fans of the show. And sure I would love too for features on regular single season sets. But dvd sets haven't been selling that great, even for shout titles too. So like I was trying to say last night. They are hedging there bets with multi sets.
The extreme set going for the hardcore fans and they get all the cool features brian asked fandom what we wanted. And then also having the single/volume sets for the more fanicially strapped fans. So then they can still make a profit off the series. From casual fans/new younger fans, and for us older hardcore fans. |
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The Web-Swinger
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Sweet find donut. Thanks for link. Can't wait to get the set myself. Only thing I still hate how much the set is going to be on release. But for how many discs it is its a good value. But now I hope we get a cool commerical for release soon.
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Press release on pr celebrating 20th anni next yr:
http://www.retail-merchandiser.com/i...orts/706-saban Quote:
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Sorry if already posted:
Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
http://www.toyark.com/news/power-ran...zord8207-5883/
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The Web-Swinger
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Sweet original megazord getting another release. Also next tues will be a licensing expo saban brands will be attending. We could possibly learn some more details for next yrs show. Or at least maybe a logo.
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There you go Webhead. You were wrong.
Nick calling the shots. 20 episodes + specials per year. Sentai series split up over 2 years. I really hope they cast MegaForce decently. This could potentially be two years of suckiness... again. |
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What was Webhead wrong about?
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Probably the comment in the article I posted that next series would be 2 yrs like samurai. And how I was saying before that I hope/wish the show went back to old format.
Which we are still early in before final schedules for show is in place for next yr. I like to see that change. But I know it probably won't. This format is still bad move in my book. But personally I think for megaforce/gokaiger anni series would be stupid to stretch over two yrs. Why bother with gokaiger if you stretch over anni aspect. Then production wise is silly we get even more behind on sentai shows. And its stupid to me to take one sentai show and make it two seasons in us show. I still see no logical reason nick can't air a 40 ep order of a show in one yr span. Like how past series where. Why stretch out a show a longer time. And mess with seasonal standing. It was a lot easier to go by one series/season is adapted from one sentai show. If nick doesn't want a 40 order for pr. Maybe saban should cut down on episode cut back to 32-38 like disney yrs. That could work more for nick and have it be easier to air in one yr. But if the show was to stay 40 episodes for a series. I still think there is better ways to air 40 episodes in a yr span. First do at least 3 1hr(2 episodes) aired on same day. Go then about 18 straight weeks of new episodes. That if we start in feb/march will get you to around june. Break for a month or two in july/aug. Then follow suit again in sept for same set up and be over in nov/early dec. And also if they wanted to dump a few more episodes quicker. They could also do maybe two new episodes each week, sat and Sunday at there noon spot. So that way we get two new episodes a week. And that way instead of 20 straight weeks of new episodes they do ten weeks, break a little longer then the other way I said and return after break and follow again. Or they can do a week long marathon of new episodes during prime time slot ie 7pm slot(once or twice during run) that has had a lot of different shows/specials going through that spot weekdays. Last edited by Webhead2006; 06-10-2012 at 10:56 AM. |
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Meh I bet when ever the next series starts Nick will end up stretching it out especially with the ratings Samurai has gotten. Could be wrong, but stretching out Samurai out over 2 years worked out pretty well for everyone.
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I totally get the business sense in doing that for samurai. Saban judt got the brand back, the show was off the air for about a yr. Plus he was trying to do what mmpr did but with only one series and a alrready set amount of episodes, and just going by regular filming done in time frame past shows was.
So I don't see why we can't go back to the yrly format. Even with going with gokai. We are still a yr fully production wise to sentai. So they would have all of the one show done in the can to review. While production is winding down on current one. I just think if we get behind sentai more that can ultimately lead to problems production end of things. Ie footage looking dated, and props having to be stored longer at toei. And toei probably would want to be paid for that. That is why I like yr to yr format so we keep it fresh and production on a unified cycle and all that. Plus I am sure toei like to get a quicker return on profits made from the us adaptation of show. Then like I said above at least gokaiger wise it makes better sense to have the show be one yr long/old format. So we fit the whole anni thing and all that in the correct season/airing yr. Then oh hey its 20th anni but also doing it on 21st. Plus then stretching each show over two seasons just mucks the hell out of correct seasonal standing and keeping on par with sentai anni yrs. In the end I do hope we can go back to the old format. And have that work again. Heck as much as I hate less episodes I would be fine even just cutting back on episodes. So it would be possible to better confine to the loopy nick schedule format. Which personally I don't see why pr should be confined to nick created shows format/style. When saban makes/produces the show and nick just has the rights to show the show. I said it before if they kept the old format with how the show is in the can when show starts to air. What ever network airing has something new to air all yr long. While other shows are on breaks/hiatus. |
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Well I don't think they can either. MMPR is special in a lot of ways I can't really describe or put into words.
But I still enjoy the new stuff.
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I wouldn't say "special" but it was definitely unique for the time, which added to its appeal, and turned it into a sensation.
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I wonder if Saban will adapt Goseiger or Gokaiger as Megaforce. Since we know that Toei had reshoot the Legends War for Saban, my guess is that it will be Gokaiger, but there's a strong possibility that they may just merge both sentai series together to become Megaforce. It's not like they haven't done it before, since MMPR & S2 were derived from Zyuranger and Dairanger of the Super Sentai, and they may just do that again.
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Ah Webhead.
You're on a roll. Wrong about Gokaiger too. They're adapting Goseiger for PR 2013 and 2014. Power Rangers Megaforce will be based on Goseiger. ![]() And surprise, surprise, the producers and showrunners are using the same formula as Samurai... a Sentai translation mixed with MMPR nostalgia. R.I.P. PR. You should have ended with RPM. |
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Has samurai finished for the season?
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For YEARS, I've been saying PR should end. The franchise needs a nice break. And then, try to bring it back as a proper big screen adaptation. Hasbro is doing wonders with Transformers, a franchise that was dead for almost a decade. People got excited when it came back in a grand fashion. Secondly, PR has made the mistake of staying the course. It has always been, more or less, the same cheesy show. So, it's a franchise that most people don't take seriously. It's a silly show and always has been. So, they should take some cues from Ninja Turtles. That franchise had big success with the goofy `87-96 series. But in 2003 they decided it was time for a more serious and mature series. And that worked wonders for them. It's shocking that PR has been on the air for 20 years, but it also can't be ignored they've pulled that off by taking the easy route.
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PR could EASILY still be awesome. RPM proved that.
It's just in the wrong hands right now. Unfortunately it's headed in a really bad direction. |
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