If Venom is used again, this is how he should look! - Page 29

Godzilla2014 · 12-31-2011, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider-Vader

Yeah, Venom is black. Whenever he's blue in the comics, it's just lighting and whatnot.

And when he's actually colored blue, it looks bad.

Spiderine · 01-01-2012, 10:14 AM

Eddie's character has to seriously be fleshed out before he becomes Venom. They really have to make you believe in Brock's hatred for Peter and why he wants him dead. Otherwise Venom become nothing more but a hollow villain with cool looks.

Mistah K88 · 01-03-2012, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiderine

Eddie's character has to seriously be fleshed out before he becomes Venom. They really have to make you believe in Brock's hatred for Peter and why he wants him dead. Otherwise Venom become nothing more but a hollow villain with cool looks.

Agreed. One thing that needs to be established before Venom could appear is Eddie. I think Ultimate, and by extension The Spectacular Spider-Man did a good job by establishing that Eddie and Peter were friends. Trust me your best friends could turn into your worst enemies. One thing that they would need to avoid is ending up turning Eddie into Harry Osborn (best friend who gains a vendetta against Peter/Spider-Man). I guess one thing that could happen to differentiate the two is the fact that Harry gains redemption, whereas Eddie is perpetually blinded by the mutual hatred of him and the Symbiote. Plus the fact that Harry just wants to avenge his father, where Eddie has a twisted view of justice and wants revenge...wonder if they'll go the "mine and mine alone" thing with Venom or if they'll make him a snitch like in TSSM with Peter's identity...

Gamma Goliath · 01-03-2012, 02:00 AM

whatever they do; if he's used again, he absolutely has to be set up within multiple movies. I like the tssm approach where he starts out cool and inconspicuous, then slowly grow darker.

WolfCypher · 01-03-2012, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Gamma Goliath

whatever they do; if he's used again, he absolutely has to be set up within multiple movies. I like the tssm approach where he starts out cool and inconspicuous, then slowly grow darker.

I prefer the SM:TAS approach, where he starts out as a jerk towards Peter and thinks of Spider-Man as much a menace as JJ does, and that punk Parker keeps one-upping him on the job with better pics of Spidey while Brock can't catch a break, jealousy. But yes, he needs to be fleshed out in a movie(s) prior to the one Venom debuts.

TheWallCrawler · 01-03-2012, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mistah K88

Agreed. One thing that needs to be established before Venom could appear is Eddie. I think Ultimate, and by extension The Spectacular Spider-Man did a good job by establishing that Eddie and Peter were friends. Trust me your best friends could turn into your worst enemies. One thing that they would need to avoid is ending up turning Eddie into Harry Osborn (best friend who gains a vendetta against Peter/Spider-Man). I guess one thing that could happen to differentiate the two is the fact that Harry gains redemption, whereas Eddie is perpetually blinded by the mutual hatred of him and the Symbiote. Plus the fact that Harry just wants to avenge his father, where Eddie has a twisted view of justice and wants revenge...wonder if they'll go the "mine and mine alone" thing with Venom or if they'll make him a snitch like in TSSM with Peter's identity...

And that's why I thought it was such a good pair of villains to be in Spider-man 3. Sadly they involved Sandman and handled everything poorly

Maybe Harry could've been the one working with Venom instead of Sandman? That would've been kinda awesome, seeing Venom easily manipulate Harry because of Harry's blind hatred for Peter, and not because Venom needs help but because it makes Spidey's defeat "so much more fun"

Godzilla2014 · 01-04-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistah K88

Agreed. One thing that needs to be established before Venom could appear is Eddie. I think Ultimate, and by extension The Spectacular Spider-Man did a good job by establishing that Eddie and Peter were friends. Trust me your best friends could turn into your worst enemies. One thing that they would need to avoid is ending up turning Eddie into Harry Osborn (best friend who gains a vendetta against Peter/Spider-Man). I guess one thing that could happen to differentiate the two is the fact that Harry gains redemption, whereas Eddie is perpetually blinded by the mutual hatred of him and the Symbiote. Plus the fact that Harry just wants to avenge his father, where Eddie has a twisted view of justice and wants revenge...wonder if they'll go the "mine and mine alone" thing with Venom or if they'll make him a snitch like in TSSM with Peter's identity...

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Originally Posted by TheWallCrawler

And that's why I thought it was such a good pair of villains to be in Spider-man 3. Sadly they involved Sandman and handled everything poorly

Maybe Harry could've been the one working with Venom instead of Sandman? That would've been kinda awesome, seeing Venom easily manipulate Harry because of Harry's blind hatred for Peter, and not because Venom needs help but because it makes Spidey's defeat "so much more fun"

I completely agree with these.

ironwez20 · 01-04-2012, 04:01 PM

Venom was always a manipulative little bastard. i really hope that we get to see eddie brock develop in all three movie's and become venom. I know green goblin will come but Venom definatly needs to show up soon. He's spiderman's ultimate physical villain afterall.

Godzilla2014 · 01-04-2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ironwez20

Venom was always a manipulative little bastard. i really hope that we get to see eddie brock develop in all three movie's and become venom. I know green goblin will come but Venom definatly needs to show up soon. He's spiderman's ultimate physical villain afterall.

Agreed.

WolfCypher · 01-04-2012, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ironwez20

Venom was always a manipulative little bastard. i really hope that we get to see eddie brock develop in all three movie's and become venom. I know green goblin will come but Venom definatly needs to show up soon. He's spiderman's ultimate physical villain afterall.

Manipulative? Venom? If you're talking about 616 Eddie Brock, Venom has never been manipulative.

AVEITWITHJAMON · 01-06-2012, 08:52 AM

Has anyone been cast as Eddie Brock in this movie at all? I only ask because I agree with you guys he needs at least one movie of just being Eddie before turning into Venom and I havent been following this movie that much.

ironwez20 · 01-06-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfCypher

Manipulative? Venom? If you're talking about 616 Eddie Brock, Venom has never been manipulative.

I'm talking bout that one.

Ken-Kaniff · 01-07-2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

Has anyone been cast as Eddie Brock in this movie at all? I only ask because I agree with you guys he needs at least one movie of just being Eddie before turning into Venom and I havent been following this movie that much.

I highly doubt we'll see him in this first movie, but it would be great indeed. Also ye, he definetly needs to show up with a movie before he will become Venom (or with 2 movies, I don't mind)! The way he was handled in SM3 is definetly a no-go.

WolfCypher · 01-07-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ironwez20

I'm talking bout that one.

I'm drawing a blank. Exactly where has 616-Eddie Brock/Venom been portrayed as manipulative?

ironwez20 · 01-07-2012, 12:10 PM

My bad the ones Ive read i've seen venom scare mary jane and tell peter to fight him. Then he goes to Aunt mays house and helps her with the laundry and stuff just to tick peter off. I cant think of anything else right now.

WolfCypher · 01-07-2012, 06:33 PM

Actually thats what I don't want. More Mary-Jane (or Gwen) needing to be rescued all the time (from Venom or otherwise) in these films. Every single Raimi Spidey film made MJ a damsel.

Spider-Vader · 01-08-2012, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

Has anyone been cast as Eddie Brock in this movie at all? I only ask because I agree with you guys he needs at least one movie of just being Eddie before turning into Venom and I havent been following this movie that much.

Nope. The Daily Bugle won't even be in this movie, there'll be a couple references to it but we won't see JJ & the crew.

Frank · 01-09-2012, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider-Vader

Yeah, Venom is black. Whenever he's blue in the comics, it's just lighting and whatnot.

Lol this reminds me of an arguement I got ino when I was a kid. Another kid was trying to tell me Wolverin'e hair was blue since they use that color to highlight black in comics.

Gamma Goliath · 01-09-2012, 02:16 AM

When I was a kid I always wondered why wolverines hair was blue in Xmen TAS. and I never got why venom in TAS had half red half blue highlights, lighting didnt matter either.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Godzilla2014 · 01-09-2012, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Gamma Goliath

When I was a kid I always wondered why wolverines hair was blue in Xmen TAS. and I never got why venom in TAS had half red half blue highlights, lighting didnt matter either.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

That annoys me as well.

Mr. Fixit · 01-09-2012, 09:59 AM

LoL...wow, never noticed that.

Kinda odd.

UltimateWebhead · 01-09-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Godzilla2014

And when he's actually colored blue, it looks bad.

Seriously. Where did that blue coloring come from anyways? Was it an 80s thing?

Spider-Vader · 01-09-2012, 09:05 PM

It was a comics thing in general. Spidey was originally going to be red & black, but since the black parts were always shaded blue it just officially became red & blue.

Hell, it still sort of continues to this day. Look at my avatar for example, that picture is from 'Cable & Deadpool' which from the last decade.

AVEITWITHJAMON · 01-10-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken-Kaniff

I highly doubt we'll see him in this first movie, but it would be great indeed. Also ye, he definetly needs to show up with a movie before he will become Venom (or with 2 movies, I don't mind)! The way he was handled in SM3 is definetly a no-go.

Even just a cameo would do, he was mentioned by name in the first movie in the Raimi trilogy remember.

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Originally Posted by Spider-Vader

Nope. The Daily Bugle won't even be in this movie, there'll be a couple references to it but we won't see JJ & the crew.

I knew JJ wouldnt be in this but even the Bugle isnt much? Wow, that is a bit of a departure from what I know if Spidey. Oh well, might not be such a bad thing.

Spider-Vader · 01-10-2012, 08:41 PM

Well, he's still in high school for (I assume) all of the movie. I don't see why a major newspaper company would hire a teenager.

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Spiderine Entrepreneur Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In My Office Posts: 3,048	Re: If Venom is used again, this is how he should look! Eddie's character has to seriously be fleshed out before he becomes Venom. They really have to make you believe in Brock's hatred for Peter and why he wants him dead. Otherwise Venom become nothing more but a hollow villain with cool looks.

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Gamma Goliath Engine of Destruction Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 4,060	Re: If Venom is used again, this is how he should look! whatever they do; if he's used again, he absolutely has to be set up within multiple movies. I like the tssm approach where he starts out cool and inconspicuous, then slowly grow darker. __________________ "Dreams feel real while we're in them. It's only when we wake up that we realize something was actually strange." -INCEPTION

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ironwez20 Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: konoha Posts: 2,476	Re: If Venom is used again, this is how he should look! Venom was always a manipulative little bastard. i really hope that we get to see eddie brock develop in all three movie's and become venom. I know green goblin will come but Venom definatly needs to show up soon. He's spiderman's ultimate physical villain afterall. __________________ "These eyes can see fine in the darkness."-[Sasuke

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AVEITWITHJAMON Terminator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Liverpool, U.K Posts: 21,481	Re: If Venom is used again, this is how he should look! Has anyone been cast as Eddie Brock in this movie at all? I only ask because I agree with you guys he needs at least one movie of just being Eddie before turning into Venom and I havent been following this movie that much. __________________ 2013: 1)Django Unchained-9(2)Star Trek Into Darkness-9(3)Iron Man 3-9(4)Evil Dead-8(5)Oblivion-8(6)The Last Stand-7.5(7)Oz: The Great And Powerful-7.5(8)Jack The Giant Slayer-7.5

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ironwez20 Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: konoha Posts: 2,476	Re: If Venom is used again, this is how he should look! My bad the ones Ive read i've seen venom scare mary jane and tell peter to fight him. Then he goes to Aunt mays house and helps her with the laundry and stuff just to tick peter off. I cant think of anything else right now. __________________ "These eyes can see fine in the darkness."-[Sasuke

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Gamma Goliath Engine of Destruction Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 4,060	Re: If Venom is used again, this is how he should look! When I was a kid I always wondered why wolverines hair was blue in Xmen TAS. and I never got why venom in TAS had half red half blue highlights, lighting didnt matter either. Spoiler!!! Click to Read!: __________________ "Dreams feel real while we're in them. It's only when we wake up that we realize something was actually strange." -INCEPTION Last edited by Gamma Goliath; 01-09-2012 at 02:25 AM.

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Mr. Fixit Enforcer Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 165	Re: If Venom is used again, this is how he should look! LoL...wow, never noticed that. Kinda odd.

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Spider-Vader The Mandalore Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 11,515	Re: If Venom is used again, this is how he should look! It was a comics thing in general. Spidey was originally going to be red & black, but since the black parts were always shaded blue it just officially became red & blue. Hell, it still sort of continues to this day. Look at my avatar for example, that picture is from 'Cable & Deadpool' which from the last decade. __________________ Looogaan! We've missed you! Weapon X hasn't been the same without 'cha! Nobody calls me bub anymore!~ Deadpool Avengers, Defenders, Thunderbolts... I make any team better!~ Hawkeye If you see me typo it's because I'm typing on an iPhone. I don't have access to a computer currently & it's hard to type on this thing, sorry.

01-10-2012, 08:41 PM	#725
Spider-Vader The Mandalore Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 11,515	Re: If Venom is used again, this is how he should look! Well, he's still in high school for (I assume) all of the movie. I don't see why a major newspaper company would hire a teenager. __________________ Looogaan! We've missed you! Weapon X hasn't been the same without 'cha! Nobody calls me bub anymore!~ Deadpool Avengers, Defenders, Thunderbolts... I make any team better!~ Hawkeye If you see me typo it's because I'm typing on an iPhone. I don't have access to a computer currently & it's hard to type on this thing, sorry.

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