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Old 04-25-2011, 09:43 PM   #1
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Default Should MOS incorporate the motion streak/blur? - Not Related to Smallville



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I noticed in SR they really didn't make use of this effect. I've also liked in the old Superman films, TAS, and Lois and Clark how in flight or even in running we would see the streak of color. It is not the most difficult effect to use, but I think it is a very effective one.

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Old 04-25-2011, 09:47 PM   #2
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yeah

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Old 04-25-2011, 09:47 PM   #3
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Oh, geez, I was scared you meant the absurd "Blur" identity from Smallville...but yeah, blur effects can be cool if used correctly.

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That's what I thought. I was about to tell you to get the hell outta here with that Smallville boos**t, but, okay, yeah. That would be nice.

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Old 04-25-2011, 09:50 PM   #5
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Oh, geez, I was scared you meant the absurd "Blur" identity from Smallville...


As for the actual effect, I'm pretty disappointed SR ignored it. When he flew at super speed, you could see the entire form of his body. It just looked less cool missing the streaks :-/

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Old 04-25-2011, 09:50 PM   #6
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Yeah Id like to see that.

The redblueblur is such a crappy name.

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yes, but not too stylized. it should look somewhat realistic. a big blue blur with realistic motion blurring would be cool, but i don't think he should leave behind a blue trail or anything.

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Old 04-25-2011, 09:54 PM   #8
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Maybe when SV ends, since Cavill is Superman, Tom could have a continuation series called "Superblur" The way his logic works on the show, even with Booster spelling it out by saying "Super..." for the beginning of a hero name. He might go "hmm what goes with Super? I know! People know me as the blur! Superblur, yes me so smart"

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Old 04-25-2011, 09:54 PM   #9
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Oh, geez, I was scared you meant the absurd "Blur" identity from Smallville...but yeah, blur effects can be cool if used correctly.
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That's what I thought. I was about to tell you to get the hell outta here with that Smallville boos**t, but, okay, yeah. That would be nice.
I was scared too.

Good topic, though. I'd like to see the blur effect. It'd be kinda boring to not have it.

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Only when he's moving at ridiculous speeds. Otherwise, no. I've seen jet fighters slice through the air with no blur, doesn't take away it's amazing visuals.

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Old 04-25-2011, 09:58 PM   #11
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As George Lucas would say (yes I'm referencing his opinion ) even if grounding some things in realism, it doesn't hurt to go with the romantic version. He talked about this when having Yoda's robe flow in a certain way. The cgi developers were making it a realistic version, but Lucas felt visually it didn't work for the moment.

I think SR got it backwards. They made an unrealistic story of a superhero, but then did the superpowers in a bland less "romantic" way. I think the story should be solid and have some real world nods, but the powers should be a little more fantastic for visual effect as we've seen in past incarnations.

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F**k realism.

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Old 04-25-2011, 10:03 PM   #13
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Ya in a cinematic event with a superhero, considering the flashiness of modern comics you'd hope they can give cool visuals for effects. I don't know why that would be a bad thing for Superman. Batman doesn't have powers, so grounding him in realism was a more suitable choice. I hope they blow us away with heat vision, speed, flight, freeze breath, and make some "whoa!" moments in the theatre.

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Old 04-25-2011, 10:10 PM   #15
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Dude, when I read the title on this thread, I thought it was some trolling bait post concerning incorporating Smallville's bull **** "blur" into Snyder's flick!

We got three episodes to the Smallville finale and he is still called the freaking "blur"!?!!!!!

Anyway, back on topic, wasn't that what they were going to do in one of the Burton or Cage versions of Superman?
If I recall correctly, no one would see Superman flying at any time, so there would be no real flying scenes because all you would see would be a blur.
It would be a cop out if they tried to pull a fast one like that in this day and age.

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F**k realism.
yeah...screw realism!! let's have a psychedelic, uber colorful Superman film where the sky is pink and Metropolis looks like a Pollock painting!

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Old 04-25-2011, 10:15 PM   #17
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Not everytime he flies dude. Just in certain scenes when he reallllly needs to super speed somewhere because of an emergency.

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That's what I thought. I was about to tell you to get the hell outta here with that Smallville boos**t, but, okay, yeah. That would be nice.
I was coming in here to curse that idea as well.

A blur effect would be cool in certain moments. I'd like them to push visual effects that we've not seen in a Superman cinematic feature as of yet... which kinda leaves a lot of room for new big screen implementations.

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I was coming in here to curse that idea as well.

A blur effect would be cool in certain moments. I'd like them to push visual effects that we've not seen in a Superman cinematic feature as of yet... which kinda leaves a lot of room for new big screen implementations.
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I like the look of his speed at 4:20 here...

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The only time I can think of Smallville having streaks similar to pic in the OP is around 1:02...

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I like the look of his speed at 4:20 here...

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The only time I can think of Smallville having streaks similar to pic in the OP is around 1:02...

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There's also No Ordinary Family...

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I was actually on the fence about what to think but your visual aids actually convinced me that it could work well.

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I was actually on the fence about what to think but your visual aids actually convinced me that it could work well.
Here are more examples. I'm not talking of the Matrix ripple/wave effect, but the quick blur/streak right around 00:31...

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And when Clark comes to a stop at the end...

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Old 04-26-2011, 12:37 AM   #23
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Thanks for the yt links. Got any live action screencaps?

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This type of blur from Superman 2 is still effective and the triumphant score helps a lot.

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Thanks for the yt links. Got any live action screencaps?
No problem.

I know of these...

http://www.homeofthenutty.com/smallv..._display_media

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http://www.homeofthenutty.com/smallv..._display_media

http://www.homeofthenutty.com/smallv..._display_media

Those are the only moments that really stick out to me. Other times have that Matrix ripple/wave effect that I'm not too fond of, but that's usually when then show people run. If there is more of a blur effect, it'll likely be whenever Clark or someone comes to/leaves the scene. As for No Ordinary Family, I don't know of any online galleries for screencaps.

Other than the flashback, did Superman use super speed at all in SR? I can't remember.

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