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Old 05-12-2011, 01:00 PM   #51
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TIH couldn't have sunk them. It was only $35M or so away from breaking even in theaters(if my 2X budget rule pans out) and that is easily mitigated by what a runaway success Iron Man was. and TIH eventually DID become profitable once DVD, TV rights got included(probably a tidy profit but one never the less). And that's not even counting other ancillaries like toy tie ins, etc. TIH may have made them take stock and realize that one good bomb could wipe them out so they opted for the security that Disney was offering.

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I'm still not keen about the movies that are going to be made by Marvel Studios in the future. Ant-Man, Iron Fist, Doctor Strange? NO THANKS.

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Im waiting for Black Panther and Im open to the rest

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I'm still not keen about the movies that are going to be made by Marvel Studios in the future. Ant-Man, Iron Fist, Doctor Strange? NO THANKS.
Since the rights of Spiderman, X-Men, and F4 are all controlled by rival studios, what other movies do you think Marvel Studio can do? Btw, you left out Black Panther, Luke Cage, and possible spinoffs like SHIELD, Hawkeye, and Black Widow.

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Made about 4M domestically Wednesday. Worldwide total is around 275M.

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I'm still not keen about the movies that are going to be made by Marvel Studios in the future. Ant-Man, Iron Fist, Doctor Strange? NO THANKS.
Eh, they're all great characters with loads of potential, so I'm looking forward to them.

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Not sold on Ant Man but I'm looking forward to Iron Fist and Doctor Strange. Not familiar with either character, but both concepts are awesome for cinema.

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I'm still not keen about the movies that are going to be made by Marvel Studios in the future. Ant-Man, Iron Fist, Doctor Strange? NO THANKS.
Why not? All great characters with great mythologies and bags of potential.

You telling me you wouldn't want to see a bad ass martial arts/mysticism movie?

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Since the rights of Spiderman, X-Men, and F4 are all controlled by rival studios, what other movies do you think Marvel Studio can do? Btw, you left out Black Panther, Luke Cage, and possible spinoffs like SHIELD, Hawkeye, and Black Widow.
Luke Cage? Black Panther? Hawkeye? Nope. I would really like see Vision get the big screen treatment. I'm a sucker for Scarlett Johanson as the Black Widow.

A Shield movie with the Hellcarrier involved? I would be sold.

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You wouldn't want to see a Black Panther movie either?

Things like Black Panther, Iron Fist and Doctor Strange have heaps of cinematic potential. Even if they weren't based on comic books those concepts are brilliant.

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Black Panther, Dr. Strange, and Ant Man top my list. Ant Man because of Wasp, Ultron, and Vision. Ironfist and Cage only interest me if its Heroes for Hire.

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Luke Cage? Black Panther? Hawkeye? Nope. I would really like see Vision get the big screen treatment. I'm a sucker for Scarlett Johanson as the Black Widow.

A Shield movie with the Hellcarrier involved? I would be sold.
I'm hoping the Vision can make it into an Avengers sequel, if there is one. He's kind of a second-generation Avenger, so they never seem to want to start with him on the team.

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Good hold for Wed, I figured the drop would be over 20% with Tuesday going up the way it did. Should easily make the 18M for the week that I was hoping, perhaps a little more.

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And they have dozens of properties that they can adapt to film. If one bombs, they will not dwell, they will move on to the next property.
Not really. Look at which of their comics sell. If they can't get Thor and Cap to sell, how are they going to get Ant-man to sell?

Like I say Marvel's top properties are with other studios, so if they can't bank with Thor, Cap, Iron Man, Hulk and Avengers, they are going to have to hope that Disney buys back the rights to those other characters.

They moved on from Hulk because it did worse the second time around, and they still had Thor, Cap, Avengers and the Iron Man sequels to push.

What I want to dispel is that Marvel operates like it does with it's Fox properties. The whole point of Marvel Studios is they fund the projects not the distributors. Fantastic Four was shelved because the money was being fronted by Fox.

So it's a misconseption that Paramount has any standing on if this movie gets a sequel, which is why if Feige says it's getting a sequel, it's getting a sequel. Marvel Studios is the ones putting up the money, not Paramount, they only pay to distribute the film and take a cut of the profits. With Disney owning Marvel, Marvel Studios still foots the bill for the development, but Disney can cover distribution, which is much cheaper and the Disney corp can recover 100% of the profits.

The only way Disney gets concerned is if Marvel is unprofitable, and Marvel Studios is just one division of Marvel. If Marvel becomes unprofitable and other sectors of Disney are having to make up for their losses, then they will probably spin them off, or the board of directors could force Marvel Studios to be absorbed into Disney Pictures.

My main point is people act like the old rules are still in play, and they are not.

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I want a ****ing Dr. Strange movie.

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I want a ****ing Dr. Strange movie.
With Johnny Depp, hopefully.

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They moved on from Hulk because it did worse the second time around, and they still had Thor, Cap, Avengers and the Iron Man sequels to push.
TIH did outgross Hulk domestically and internationally, even if it was because of inflation. Regardless, Feige noted "One was to make even a dollar more than the first one did, so we could justify that we had done it from a financial aspect, and the other one was to bring a Hulk to the screen that a broader fanbase could enjoy. The good news is, we accomplished both." Furthermore, he noted Hulk would not have a sequel until The Avengers, which would further increase interest in the character. It's the same situation with Thor and Cap, Iron Man could have the 2010 sequel because his film became a bona fide franchise. (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/159...dent-yes.jhtml)

Anyway, back on topic, I'm quite confident Thor will return in 2014.

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Agreed, Avengers will definitely be a catalyst to promote all four of the Marvel Studios projects they have currently done.

Yes TIH, did gross more than Hulk. People thought it a good film, but because it opened lower, it really could have done better. Needless to say, I wouldn't call it an out and out failure. I know few people who say the movie was terrible.

The main point I'm trying to make is Marvel is calling all the shots on if the film gets the sequel, and most people don't seem to understand that. If they don't make a sequel it is Marvel's decision not Paramount's. Disney also has very limited say in what Marvel does/doesn't do. They are running Marvel just like they run Pixar, as a partner company more than a subsidiary.

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Do you guys think that Thor can make 250 Million in the foreign market? because i now think Thor will make about 160 million domestically and hit maybe 250 internationally hopefully making about 400 million

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Yes, of course. It will blow past 250M OS. It'll challenge 300M and may hit it depending on legs.

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Made about 4M domestically Wednesday. Worldwide total is around 275M.
So that puts it's totals from Mon-Wed at what? I'm a tad behind

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So that puts it's totals from Mon-Wed at what? I'm a tad behind
around 15M. Like I say it should do 18M from M-T quite easily which is what I was hoping for.

Things look very good for a 30-32M run over the weekend. I've seen some project higher, but it looks to have legs.

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around 15M. Like I say it should do 18M from M-T quite easily which is what I was hoping for.

Things look very good for a 30-32M run over the weekend. I've seen some project higher, but it looks to have legs.
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around 15M. Like I say it should do 18M from M-T quite easily which is what I was hoping for.

Things look very good for a 30-32M run over the weekend. I've seen some project higher, but it looks to have legs.

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Moviegoers are definitely enjoying this movie.

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