Disney Classic vs. Disney Renaissance vs. Pixar

[Parker Wayne]

Rennaissance wins this. It made Disney relevant in animation again and led the way in animation.

[MessiahDecoy123]

Nostalgia is pulling me to vote for the Renaissance.

Logic is pulling towards Pixar.

Don't know yet.

[The Morningstar]

No Disney character is as cool as Thomas O'Malley

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Then there is Uncle Waldo

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Aristocats owns all!!!

[CGHulk]

Frank Thomas' Thomas O'Malley is the work of a master.

[redhawk23]

While I love pixar, I personally cant stand Cars or, and I'm probably going to get yelled at for this, Toy Story 3. I liked it the first time I saw it, but upon further review it just doesn't hold up for me.

I'm going to have to go with the Renaissance.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Easily Pixar, this is a no brainer. As I got older I noticed the quality of animation for Disney movies isn't really that great. The Little Mermaid is a pretty hard movie to watch if you're not 10 and Aladdin's only saving grace is Robin Williams.

And those were their good movies of the time. The only one that [probably] holds up is The Lion King, but I haven't watched it in years to know.

I am a little worried to go back and watch the old Disney classics that I loved, like Robin Hood and The Sword In The Stone. I've seen Pinocciho again and it was okay.

But Pixar's worst movie is A Bug's Life? Cars, Rattatouie, Monster's Inc., The Incredibles, Wall-E and more? Hands down Pixar wins this, but also movie making has advanced a lot in jus the past 20 years, hard for movies of the 50's and 60's to keep up. imho

[ALP]

Originally Posted by flickchick85

For the most part, this poll is just gonna come down to whichever ones we grew up with. For me (and probably the majority of the Hype's demographic), that's the Renaissance. They're all great, though.

I'd say I'm an exception, I grew up more with the Pixar films and like I said, I feel a number of them are mixed. The Rescuers is the only Renaissance film I'd call less than great. And I may be a teenager but my old school soul loves hand drawn animation...

[Grillz]

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

Rennaissance wins this. It made Disney relevant in animation again and led the way in animation.

This. I'm actually watching B&B right now on *gasp* Disney Channel and I guess what makes it special is that I can actually get lost in this film and forget that it's "just a cartoon". Beauty, Aladdin, and Lion King took Disney Feature Animation to a whole new level. Pixar took animation to a whole new level because without Toy Story there would'nt be so many copycats. Everything about Disney wins except their kid clones that each get fifteen min. of fame each year.

[Parker Wayne]

To be honest, it was either DR or Pixar for me. Both of them brought animation into the modern era. Disney Classics are great and all, but it all comes down what you grew up with.

This just shows, that despite people calling Disney Evil, they made everyone's childhood and is a great company.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

For me as a kid it was always Warner Brother's animation, just superb and imho, leagues above Disney's animation.

[Parker Wayne]

Originally Posted by BAH HUMBBUG!

Easily Pixar, this is a no brainer. As I got older I noticed the quality of animation for Disney movies isn't really that great. The Little Mermaid is a pretty hard movie to watch if you're not 10 and Aladdin's only saving grace is Robin Williams.

And those were their good movies of the time. The only one that [probably] holds up is The Lion King, but I haven't watched it in years to know.

I am a little worried to go back and watch the old Disney classics that I loved, like Robin Hood and The Sword In The Stone. I've seen Pinocciho again and it was okay.

But Pixar's worst movie is A Bug's Life? Cars, Rattatouie, Monster's Inc., The Incredibles, Wall-E and more? Hands down Pixar wins this, but also movie making has advanced a lot in jus the past 20 years, hard for movies of the 50's and 60's to keep up. imho

I'm inclined to also Aladdin, Tarzan, and The Hunchback of Notre Dame are also great movies. The others are good though, except for Pocahontas which has great visuals (kinda similar to another 2009 movie ).

I also agree about the 50's and 60's movie being hard to keep up. Some movies transcend time and some don't.

[kedrell]

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

To be honest, it was either DR or Pixar for me. Both of them brought animation into the modern era. Disney Classics are great and all, but it all comes down what you grew up with.

This just shows, that despite people calling Disney Evil, they made everyone's childhood and is a great company.

I grew up in between the classics and the renaissance. I was already an adult when Little Mermaid came out so the whole renaissance thing to me didn't mean a hill of beans other than the comedy in Aladdin. Same thing for Pixar. Other than The Incredibles, they just don't rate to me. All I had growing up was the classics(which had all been made before I was even born).

[Parker Wayne]

Exactly. And I'm the opposite. I grew up in the middle of the DR and the beginning of Pixar's run.

But that doesn't mean I don't love the classics. I used to watch Snow White, Cindarella, Pinnochio and Dumbo all the time.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

I'm inclined to also Aladdin, Tarzan, and The Hunchback of Notre Dame are also great movies. The others are good though, except for Pocahontas which has great visuals (kinda similar to another 2009 movie ).

I also agree about the 50's and 60's movie being hard to keep up. Some movies transcend time and some don't.

Yeah I am not saying every single one, but it's obvious that your ability to perceive and really jump into the movie when you're 5, 8, 11 is much different then when you're 18, 24, 30, 45 and so on.

As for Aladdin, I loved that movie, loved, loved, loved. But I saw it several years ago, and it was choppy, didn't seem to flow very smoothly, and just had other issues that I easily noticed.

It's like watching Hoosiers, a great movie, especially a great sports movie, but it's choppy and doesn't flow very well.

[obin_gam]

renaissance.

altho Tangled was damn good!

is Dinsey on its way back?

[Parker Wayne]

Originally Posted by BAH HUMBBUG!

For me as a kid it was always Warner Brother's animation, just superb and imho, leagues above Disney's animation.

See, the thing about WB's is that they used to be as popular as Disney, but then WB didn't really put as much thought into making animated feature films. They loved making shorts, but while shorts declined in popularity in theaters, Disney's making of feature films only made them more popular.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

See, the thing about WB's is that they used to be as popular as Disney, but then WB didn't really put as much thought into making animated feature films. They loved making shorts, but while shorts declined in popularity in theaters, Disney's making of feature films only made them more popular.

Absolutely, Disney has no rival when it comes to feature length animated movies. Which is why they bought out Pixar, no way did they want to compete with their studio on the CGI level.

[The Morningstar]

I was a kid during the Renaissance. But I prefer the classics. Aristocats, Fox and the Hound, Sword in the Stone, Peter Pan, Robin Hood, The Jungle Book, 101 Dalmations.

[ALP]

Originally Posted by CGHulk

The so called Disney Renaissance is full of entertaining films but the animation is under par with the work done by the nine old men. A lot of the animation was rushed throughout the so called Renaissance, where as Walt didn't want to see something until the animators were themselves were happy with it. The newer films are more entertaining for todays audiences but they lack the artistic sophistication that the original films had under a man that wasn't about greed, like the board of the directors today. Back in the day artists had more experience as there was more work around the studio and in the industry to hone their skills. A lot of the animators were working in the industry for many years before the first feature film was made, developing the art of animation. A lot of the artists during the 90's did have love for the films that they were making, but they were rushed instead of animating a film for a year or more, like they were back in the day, today they are animated in 6 months. The later films after Walt, the studio just cared about making a buck and how cheap can they can make it, and sell it, not so cheap that the audience will notice they are cutting corners. So many people love the films they grew up with, due to childhood nostalgia that clouds their judgement on what is actually quality. Remember the title The Disney Renaissance was given to themselves by the studio's marketing team, as a self marketing ploy, don't fall for it.

I did not know Disney named their own period the Renaissance but does it really matter that much? lol Renaissance is just a word that means "rebirth." It's not like they proclaimed themselves the greatest things on earth.

Originally Posted by BAH HUMBBUG!

Absolutely, Disney has no rival when it comes to feature length animated movies. Which is why they bought out Pixar, no way did they want to compete with their studio on the CGI level.

Dreamworks is definitely a rival. But Dreamworks takes a completely different road than Disney and Pixar by focusing more on humor and comedy.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Originally Posted by ALP

I did not know Disney named their own period the Renaissance but does it really matter that much? lol Renaissance is just a word that means "rebirth." It's not like they proclaimed themselves the greatest things on earth.



Dreamworks is definitely a rival. But Dreamworks takes a completely different road than Disney and Pixar by focusing more on humor and comedy.

When it comes to both CGI and drawn animation? No they're not. Just in general for animated movies, sure.

[Parker Wayne]

Wasn't that what you talking about though? Rivals for animated movies?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Yeah but as far as hand drawn animation, I don't think Disney has any competition?

[ALP]

Originally Posted by BAH HUMBBUG!

Yeah but as far as hand drawn animation, I don't think Disney has any competition?

That's true but not even Disney puts out many hand drawn animated theatrical movies. Maybe one every other year if not longer. Winnie The Pooh and Princess & Frog are the only recent ones. CG is just wear it's at financially. Domestically in America, Dreamworks still has the highest grossing animated film but Pixar mostly cleans up.

[Kahran Ramsus]

Classic by far. Snow White, Pinocchio, Bambi, Fantasia, these are the best works of animation ever produced. They are works of art, especially Bambi & Fantasia. I can watch those two countless times and never get bored.

[JoeyConQueso]

I think the classic movies are great (animation milestones and what not) but I don't really have a love for them. I only really saw a couple in their entirety as a kid but they just never really had that impact on me.

I'm a huge fan of the Renaissance era and I guess that a lot of that may be due to nostalgia but most of those 90s movies still hold up for me. I didn't really join Pixar fandom until I saw the opening sequence of Toy Story 2 and I don't think they've really done anything that's disappointed me. Even the movies that seem to be their missteps usually win me over. Pixar would probably get my vote even if it was only for The Incredibles but I really generally love their stuff.